My 5.0L swap attempt :) - Page 3 - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


8-Cylinder Tech If you are one of the few with a V8 engine in your Ranger, or if you dream of a Ranger with a V8 engine, this is the sub-forum for you.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #51  
Old 07-26-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmsoko View Post
That is interesting the several of you have had luck with the stock Ranger FPR. I ran my stock regulator for the first 5-10K miles that I had it running and it ran pig rich. I remeber you could smell it rich and the fuel trims were up around 30%. That was about 7 years ago now, so the details are sketchy! I can say that once I swapped in a return system with adjustable regulator and set to 42psi, things were much better.

Maybe had to do with the fact that my engine was a 1997 and converted to run with 1999 electronics?
That might be your problem right there... the 97 explorer has the return system running at 35-45 psi. where as the 99 explorer is a returnless setup running at 56-72 psi. Maybe you had too much pressure coming from your rangers regulator?
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 07-26-2009
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
I may try and mess with mine a little, I dont feel mine is running at its best. I also need two new performance cats to replace the crap stock ones I have that seem like they are toast now. and I may have some 02 sensor probs, that could be a result of me running rich for a while too, so idk
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 07-27-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Some goodies came in the mail :)

Name:  100_0482.jpg
Views: 10
Size:  105.0 KB
Name:  100_0483.jpg
Views: 10
Size:  121.0 KB
Name:  100_0484.jpg
Views: 10
Size:  102.7 KB
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 07-27-2009
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
Did you get 716057 to convert the output shaft from AOD to 4R70W?
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 07-27-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
do you mean this part?

http://advanceadapters.com/product/2...onversion.html

If so then NO, this wasnt mentioned anywhere when i was researching.... Whats this do?? I already have the new output shaft that comes with the adapter but whats this part do, its hard to tell what it is in the picture. Obviously its a conversion part but there isnt much info on this... But thanks for letting me know. I would have been putting this together and would have been pissed not to have this part.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 07-27-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
AHHH i just read the manual alittle to see if it mentioned it in there. Well here is what it says on the front page:

Quote:
OPTIONAL ITEMS:
P/N 716057 AOD Shaft Kit to fit an AODE Transmission

Last edited by MudSlanger; 07-27-2009 at 06:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 07-27-2009
V8 Level II's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7,834
You need the sleeve, pin and snap ring in 716057 because the oiling system is different in the AODE/4R70W as compared to the earlier AOD.

(P/N 716057) Ford AOD Shaft Conversion | Engine & Transmission Conversion Adapters - Advance Adapters
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 07-27-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
ok ordering it now... Thanks Bob once again :)
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 07-27-2009
red_rider's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Port Byron, IL
Posts: 346
Quote:
Originally Posted by MudSlanger View Post
im doing this swap because i recently took a trip to san diego from phoenix and I swear if i didnt have a running start up those big hills I woulda rolled backwards. Watching neons, f150's, yotas and mini vans(WTF?) pass me with ease up those big hills while im flooring it is very discouraging.
I can sympathize with that for sure, sounds like you've planned this swap pretty thoroughly. Let's see some pics of the progress asap
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 07-27-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
I will have the motor/tranny and all partsin hand by the end of AUG. And hopefully by october ill get this ball rolling. :)
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old 07-27-2009
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
sounds like a plan dood
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 07-28-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Well i was searching on craigslist for some parts out of an explorer/mountaineer and i came across this. If the price is right, im going to try and buy it out right. It would be easier and plus id have all parts needed for the swap.. If this falls through, ill continue getting the parts from that other guy.

Now Parting Mountaineer
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 07-28-2009
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
it was hit in the front, so just be sure that nothing happened to the motor.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 07-30-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
what cams should i put in this 5.0 motor? Im pretty much going to leave motor stock but this is part I'd like to upgrade. Im going to limit myself to cams and headers... Im limited on options with headers already so ill leave that alone lol. Lets hear some options out there for this motor please :)
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 07-30-2009
My91Ranger's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Roseville, Michigan
Posts: 2,252
Cam is a good choice imo. I always have heard that's one of the main drawbacks of the explorer 302. If you want to run a Ford cam you could go with the old stand by of an E303, but personally, I would run a B303. Good low end torque and power up to 6000 RPM.

Also my 5.0 Dyno book really likes the Comp Cams 224/232 Cam. Has a good peak power, but great increases all the way through the power band, not just at high RPM's.
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 07-30-2009
05prerunner's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Apison, TN
Posts: 483
Or... you could just swap on some 1.72:1 Cobra Roller rockers. I plan on doing this to my engine if I can ever find a set for a decent price. It'll be like adding a bigger cam, but will cost less, be easier to actually do, and will be another upgrade all together because it will be reducing friction. I like the idea of a cam swap, but just keep in mind that you don't need to go too big. You will suffer with the auto and stock stall converter if its too large b/c you will have no bottom end to get you rolling. Not to mention that with the OBD2 system you might have tuning issues and/or trouble codes, but Im not sure about that.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 07-30-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Well i wanted a mild cam... something better than whats in it now. Not looking to race the truck by all means but some simple bolt on that will give me a little more go and still keep me within spec of the emissions aspect of things :) any suggestions?
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 07-31-2009
My91Ranger's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Roseville, Michigan
Posts: 2,252
If you looking to stay on the mild side run an E303. You can probably find a used one pretty easily, if not they usually sell for just under 200 dollars. I think the cam would do the best job of waking up your 302. I have tried both a cam and 1.7 roller rockers, although currently i'm running both.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 07-31-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Is this a Single Cam motor??? HO an over head cam or no?
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 08-02-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
OK guys UPDATEEEEEEE. I blew my motor. hahah I think my 3.0 blew a head gasket.. lame When something breaks upgrade, so ill be doing this swap within the next 2 weeks... Ill have the motor/trans/ect parts in hand by maybe wed and tursday of the following week. Aug 14-16 is my swap attempt if not those days then the weekend after that. Getting the motor running and drivable is priority number 1. all the other stuff that is not needed to keep the motor running will be put in on later or when i have time to do so lol. Wiring will be fixed aswell. WHEW im excited now lol
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 08-02-2009
My91Ranger's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Roseville, Michigan
Posts: 2,252
Good luck my friend. That's alot to do in a short time! Hopefully you don't run into to much trouble.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 08-02-2009
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
hah I blew mine too.. how the hell did you blow yours?? The only reason mine died was because I had a massive coolant leak in the winter I didnt see because of a huge snowstorm that covered it up in the driveway. I got maybe a mile and it was toast. It was bullet proof besides that
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 08-02-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Drivin home from new mexico today and went up this massive hill and in order to keep up with the flow of traffic going up hill, i have to floor the gas thus making my rpms jump close to 5k+. do that over and over again at 100+ degree type temps, things get hot and things start to break lol... lame... 3.0 doesnt have the power to carry these tires and double lift. Plus i had a cylinder 5 misfire every once in a while. im sure that was a cause too. oh well, on to something bigger and better now!
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 08-02-2009
INT3RC3PTOR's Avatar
Veteran Status Achieved
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minnesooooota
Posts: 8,203
yeah get er dun
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 08-03-2009
MudSlanger's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 1,462
Mannnn im sooo tempted to buy those headers but i dont want to waste any money yet just in case i run in to a few speed bumps a long the way... I dont understand how it takes ppl 3 weeks to do a swap? Ive done motor swaps on cars before in a weekend. Why is this any different lol There is a few explorers/mountaineers in the junk yard around town so i should be squared away if i need anything partswise!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Call me Int3rc3ptor_wannabe(project attempt to make shane's truck kinda cool, ver1.1) Fx4wannabe01 Snapshots 47 04-29-2008 01:25 AM
First bumper attempt.. 4LO 4.0 Fabrication & Tool Tech 22 11-26-2007 10:29 AM
My first attempt at wheel polishing wvcat Auto Detailing 101 11 09-11-2007 05:27 AM
My first fabrication attempt v. skidplate QWIKSNK Fabrication & Tool Tech 15 06-13-2006 02:14 PM
Spark plugs / Attempt to kill RF noise. VENTING!!! Grrrr. FireRanger 4.0L OHV & SOHC V6 Tech 32 11-15-2005 06:56 AM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:01 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.