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If they can fit a cummins in a Dakota, why can't you put one in a ranger?

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I think they could fit a cummins in a ranger, but thats 5.9 liters as opposed to 7.3 liters on the powerstroke...
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I think they could fit a cummins in a ranger, but thats 5.9 liters as opposed to 7.3 liters on the powerstroke...
So what? As much as it pains me as I think Dodges are POS, the Cummins engine itself is a better option than a powerstroke.

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steering is pretty important IMO...

never said it wasnt! lol but theres tons of options on hwo you could run steering. its just gotta be done right and safe!
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So what? As much as it pains me as I think Dodges are POS, the Cummins engine itself is a better option than a powerstroke.

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Oh I agree, but I thought the thread was about a PSD thats all...
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Oh I agree, but I thought the thread was about a PSD thats all...
Ahhh! I see Said the Blind man to the deaf dog! I was just thinking of a big diesel in a small truck not really a specific engine.

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I've driven my tractor trailer without power steering when the pump blew. It's not all that bad except for the fact that you need to get it rolling to at least 5mph to start your turn.

What do you think ppl did back in the day???

Old tymer says to his buddy...'Oh, I can't drive this thing b/c power steering hasn't been invented yet!'


Buddy replies....'Yeah and how am I suppose to be pickin up chicks in a flat black ride???'
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I think they could fit a cummins in a ranger, but thats 5.9 liters as opposed to 7.3 liters on the powerstroke...
not enough room from header panel to firewall for the inline Cummins......the Dakota that Banks built is a custom frame and custom fab on the body.....not to mention that the Dakota is also bigger to start with than a Ranger.......
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If they can fit a cummins in a Dakota, why can't you put one in a ranger?

Dakota's engine bays are much bigger. My buddy has that same gen dakota with a (5.8L?) hemi v8. It looks like it belongs in there.
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Dakota's engine bays are much bigger. My buddy has that same gen dakota with a (5.8L?) hemi v8. It looks like it belongs in there.
5.9 liter (360 cubic inch) and not a Hemi...

Edit: and its only a 5.9 if its an R/T.
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Yea a mod motor fits in a 89 Ranger easily, but the engine bays have changed quite a bit since the boxy rangers. Its easy to slap a big block into the old 87 S-10 I had to, b/c the engine bay was massive.

The bay is alot smaller now than the one that is in your truck.
Actually, the mod motor fits better in the newer Rangers. You can put a 4.6 dohc in a '98-up 2wd and run the headers inside the frame. I've also seen a 4.6 sohc in a '98 4x4 and it fit pretty damn good. The engine bay in these little trucks can take alot more than people think.



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Blackbetty, you are confusing the 6.0L and 6.4L. The brand new 6.4L in the 2008 Superduty has a twin turbo setup.

I have seen both the 6.0L and the 6.4L out of the trucks on the garage floor. THEY ARE BIG. As Blackbetty said, the big troubles are the turbo location and the exhaust routing.

Better options are the 3.0L I4 Powerstroke from South American Ranger, 3.6L V6 diesel from Landrover LR3, 4.5L V6 Power Stroke from the LCF Ford commercial truck, nor the big bad 5.0L V10 Diesel from the VW Touareg. I got to drive one of those earlier this week - holycrap batman - that has some power. I felt like I was driving a mustang, not a 5000lb SUV!

As for the 6.0L Powerstroke in a Ranger, it has already been done. SPAL put one in a 2001 Ranger with hopes to break the speed record set by Banks with their Dakota. I believe they hit 216MPH in 2004 breaking Banks 213MPH record.

http://www.gohypermax.com/links/Bonneville%5B1%5D.txt

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Blackbetty, you are confusing the 6.0L and 6.4L. The brand new 6.4L in the 2008 Superduty has a twin turbo setup.

Definatly not confusing, sorry if i was confusing anyone but i was talking bout the older ones up to 07, not including the 08's, i knwo about the twin turbo 6 litres. one of the turbos produce constant boost even at low rpm. the second tubrto kicks in around 2 grand to give even more boost! (as if its needed)
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Better options are the 3.0L I4 Powerstroke from South American Ranger, 3.6L V6 diesel from Landrover LR3, 4.5L V6 Power Stroke from the LCF Ford commercial truck, nor the big bad 5.0L V10 Diesel from the VW Touareg.

Problem for the Landrovers is first finding an engine, and second parts for them cost an arm and a leg. Now what is the LCF commercial truck? never heard of that one.
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5.9 liter (360 cubic inch) and not a Hemi...

Edit: and its only a 5.9 if its an R/T.
No no no. He had a (3.8L?) V6 that went kablooey and put a Hemi from a fullsize in it! lol
That's why I said that it *looks like* it belongs there.
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I've been looking at my ranger for doing this for a good time now. But for me i was thinking either a 12v cummins or a 4bt cummins. The 12v's are easy to hook up and such because they are mechanical and don't have all the electrical crap on them the newer engines do. The 4bt i considered because it is smaller.

One of the new Diesel Magazines (Can't remember the name because i'm at work and it's at home.( Only have my Diesel Power with me at work )
It has a black '03 Ford ranger in it with a 12v cummins (twin turbo'd and supercharged) with the 4wd still in it and all. They are using a Dana 44 front end and a built 8.8 rear end. The engine is fit in there but the number 5 and six cylinders are under the dash.

Now with the 7.3L. I'd love to have one in my ranger. I think that the body lift would help with a little of the clearance issues on the truck. But it would still be crammed in there and a cowl hood would be a necessity because of how the turbo is mounted. But that can be changed i reckon.

It's nice having my ranger and my 7.3L superduty parked together so you can look at both bays and see how much more of a mamoth the 7.3 is than the 4.0L. In honesty though i think i'd put in a 12v just because they are mechanical and all. But the only other diesel engine i'd consider is a 7.3 because i love mine and their reliability is awesome.

God all this diesel talk is just making me want to swap one into the ranger. How cool would it be to be behind a ranger with some 5" duals comin out the back and then the next second a big old honkin cloud of smoke comes out and your just sittin there like WTF! lol
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I could have sworn I was reading over on Pirate4x4 about a Ranger that had a diesel in it. Hmm... gotta go searching now.
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I've been looking at my ranger for doing this for a good time now. But for me i was thinking either a 12v cummins or a 4bt cummins. The 12v's are easy to hook up and such because they are mechanical and don't have all the electrical crap on them the newer engines do. The 4bt i considered because it is smaller.

One of the new Diesel Magazines (Can't remember the name because i'm at work and it's at home.( Only have my Diesel Power with me at work )
It has a black '03 Ford ranger in it with a 12v cummins (twin turbo'd and supercharged) with the 4wd still in it and all. They are using a Dana 44 front end and a built 8.8 rear end. The engine is fit in there but the number 5 and six cylinders are under the dash.

Now with the 7.3L. I'd love to have one in my ranger. I think that the body lift would help with a little of the clearance issues on the truck. But it would still be crammed in there and a cowl hood would be a necessity because of how the turbo is mounted. But that can be changed i reckon.

It's nice having my ranger and my 7.3L superduty parked together so you can look at both bays and see how much more of a mamoth the 7.3 is than the 4.0L. In honesty though i think i'd put in a 12v just because they are mechanical and all. But the only other diesel engine i'd consider is a 7.3 because i love mine and their reliability is awesome.

God all this diesel talk is just making me want to swap one into the ranger. How cool would it be to be behind a ranger with some 5" duals comin out the back and then the next second a big old honkin cloud of smoke comes out and your just sittin there like WTF! lol

dude you are my new best friend! haha. A body lift is another thing i wanted to mention, with a the 3 inch body lift it would help clear a lot of things but it would still be tight. Yesterday i actually took some pictures of the new f350 lariat king ranch king cab dually twin turbo 6.4 diesel that i got to work on. once you get the body off there isnt that much to the engine. Heavy yes, is it as big as ppl say...no, ill grab some measurements today. Btw anyone wanna guess what im doing on this truck? And just wait till you read the spec sticker i have on it.....ooooo mamma

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anyone wanna guess what this canister does?




anyone wanna guess what the hand is pointing at?






the lovely twin turbo 6.4


this is me...pretending to be cool.


for those who cant read that it says 350hp @3000 rpm 650 ftlbs of torque at 2000 RPM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


and here is the cab.
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^^^^I give, what are you doing???
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^^^^I give, what are you doing???

lol replacing the high pressure fuel pump! yes thats right you HAVE to remove the cab to get at it and replace it, even to test it! On the new Power Strokes everything is Cab off procedure. The HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) is locate dIN the engine and is powered off the camshaft. This truck would start but wouldnt stay running, we tested the fuel pressure right after the fuel filter and got the right pressure, but when we pulled the cab off and got to the pump we saw a shi* load of diesel around the fittings and pump itself. We examined the fittings and one of the fittings werent on tight. not to mention that this truck...is an 08! BRAND SPANKIN NEW! over all its costing Ford about $4000 to do this job.
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I could have sworn I was reading over on Pirate4x4 about a Ranger that had a diesel in it. Hmm... gotta go searching now.
mooktank.
its a cummins 4bt

http://mooktank.com/myrig.htm

why would you need a 6cyl diesel in a ranger??
the 4 puts out almost 300 ft/lbs stock.
fitting a 6cyl diesel would be tough. mooktank had enough trouble with the 4bt.

I got a 4bt for my rig for next year or two when I get some time/money/new ride to drive.. cost me 6 whole dollars for the whole box van and I drove it home. just gotta find a place to stash it for the summer.
the little isuzu diesels are easier to find.
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i measured up the 08 6.4 superduty and the width came to 38 inches, 45 inches long, and 35 inches high and thats the tight measurement.
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For a quick reference:

http://www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/E...imensions.html

The PS is a little large...
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the cannister is the Diesel Particulate Filter that filters out the diesel fumes and burns them off at high heat when the filter becomes full.

Actually Check out the new Diesel Power Magazine. I'll scan images when i get home from work but there is a black ford ranger in there with a 12v cummins, twin turbo'd and supercharged.

I'm honestly thinking about this swap more and more. It would be awesome and a one of a kind since it would be a 7.3l. But i wouldn't be happy with a stock one lol. the power taste with the 7.3L in my F-250 is gettin to me. Hmm maybe i'll buy a built 7.3L short block from Wide Open Performance and build the crap out of it and put it in the F-250 and put my current 7.3 in the ranger. Or maybe build a 12v since i love them but oh i dunno....time and money will tell lol.
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the cannister is the Diesel Particulate Filter that filters out the diesel fumes and burns them off at high heat when the filter becomes full.

Actually Check out the new Diesel Power Magazine. I'll scan images when i get home from work but there is a black ford ranger in there with a 12v cummins, twin turbo'd and supercharged.

I'm honestly thinking about this swap more and more. It would be awesome and a one of a kind since it would be a 7.3l. But i wouldn't be happy with a stock one lol. the power taste with the 7.3L in my F-250 is gettin to me. Hmm maybe i'll buy a built 7.3L short block from Wide Open Performance and build the crap out of it and put it in the F-250 and put my current 7.3 in the ranger. Or maybe build a 12v since i love them but oh i dunno....time and money will tell lol.


Very close! your right about what it does for the most part. Its called a DIT Animator, it burns the soot and fumes at a really high temperature to reduce the nox emissions.
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