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5.0 vs 5.4 DOHC

5.0 vs. 5.4 DOHC (to swap into ranger)

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5.0 is quite a bit easier by the sounds of it, kinda, your 04 will be difficult no matter what.

5.4L probably wont fit between the frame rails or under hood. it is an extremely tight fit on my truck and i dont even have a ranger frame, let alone a stock front axle or 8.8. the 5.4L specifically a DOHC is 36" tall roughly. The thing would be skying out of the hood.
 

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Originally Posted by Taylor
5.0 vs. 5.4 DOHC (to swap into ranger)

What do you guys think?
The 5.0 is the clear winner here for ease but the 5.4DOHC sure would be badass. The 5.4DOHC will fit but you better be a good fabercater to do it.
 
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I would just go the 5.0 route.....You can get just as much..if not more power with certain mods! But..If you have plenty of time and money the 5.4 would be unique and BadAss! I had a 5.4 drivetrain laying around before I did my swap, but I didnt have that much time or money to invest in all the Fab work that was required.
 
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Originally Posted by fordmike1
The 5.0 is the clear winner here for ease but the 5.4DOHC sure would be badass.
Especially a supercharged 5.4 out of a lightning.

But yeah the 5.0 is shorter and skinnier than the 5.4. And if you get a 5.0 out of an exploder, they are a lot easier to be installed from what I heard.
 
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How does the 4.6 compare in size to the 5.0 and 5.4?
 
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How does the 4.6 compare in size to the 5.0 and 5.4?
Its a little wider than the 5.0.....not a real issue....but the Wiring is alot harder to sort out.
 
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yeah the 5.0 fits right into the ranger, using the same motor mounts. as well as the transmission mounts as well the main thing that would give you trouble is keeping it a manual. you would have to get a transmission out of an early f150 or something like that i think one of those would bolt right up to it.
 
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Originally Posted by 04blackedge
How does the 4.6 compare in size to the 5.0 and 5.4?
1" narrower than a 5.4, hight is a little shorter. I would still say its significantly larger than the 5.0
 
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Its a little wider than the 5.0.....not a real issue....but the Wiring is alot harder to sort out.
The wiring is no problem now as there is an aftermarket wiring harness that has just a few wires to hook up and its ready to start. Here is the link to it.

RJM Injection Tech 4.6L Harness
 
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Wirelessly posted

Don't quote me on this but a 4.6 the block is the same. I just remember hearing that..
 
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lol new 5.0 would be nice
 
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I so want one of these engines bad. I am going to hook it to a chain and drag it around behind my PSD 4x4 thru all the big rocks and mud I can find here and then put it up for sale and laugh at all the GM guys cry about it being all F'ed up. Should be good and I will post a vid on youtube when I do it.
 
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lol new 5.0 would be nice
Yea this would be a bad *** engine to have. It would show its back side to all the GM powered Pos's.

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Plus its way sexier looking then them LS junks!!!
 
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Plus its way sexier looking then them LS junks!!!
LS motors have been out since 98 fyi, its hard to compare 2 motors that are 13 years apart imo. And btw, the supercharged ls9 still puts out more power than the gt500
 
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Well I was asking because I saw this in a salvage yard. Not sure what is wrong with it, didnt have time to ask. I thinnk its a 96. Everything looks good and intact.

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what do you guys think?
 
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you really wouldnt be gaining much by putting that into your ranger...the 4.0 makes as much if not more power than the 5.0...
 
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Originally Posted by djfllmn
you really wouldnt be gaining much by putting that into your ranger...the 4.0 makes as much if not more power than the 5.0...
....was that a joke, or are you serious?

cuz I chuckled a little bit there
 
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its serious...you wont be gaining much

edit: found some power specs

HP: 210 in 96-early 97(first year for v8 explorers)

215 in late 97 when ford put new heads on the 5.0
 

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So the best bet is...what year?

I'm not too sure what year it was.
 
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well i would definatly go with a later 5.0 like 99-00...and tweak it a little
 
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The 5.0 Ex is rated at 210~215 HP, most EFI 5.0 Mustangs (except Cobras) are rated at 205~225. 4.0L SOHC Rangers are rated at 207.

Horsepower is a derived number, not measured directly, and is proportional to torque X RPM. Any engine that breathes better at high R's will have a built in advantage for the max HP number. Comparing the peak horsepower numbers of two engines looks at one point in each curve and ignores the rest.

Just remember that the average stock EFI 5.0 makes about 50 lb-ft more peak torque than the 4.0 SOHC in the Ranger. Peak horsepower definitely means something but it is only part of the story.

The stock Explorer engine is not a performance driver's dream but it is a good basis for mods. The truth is that the Ex 5.0 is basically a detuned Cobra Mustang engine with truck cam duration/lift and a bad set of exhaust manifolds. So the potential is definitely there and the 5.0 aftermarket is huge compared to that of the 4.0.
 
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Ranger V6 4.0 - 160hp 220ft lbs tq
Explorer V8 5.0- 215hp 288ft lbs tq
 
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Originally Posted by Taylor
So the best bet is...what year?
The "easiest" would be the 99~01 Explorer 5.0 which is not to say that it would be easy, especially if it is to remain a manual 4x4.
 


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