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Pretty much what I did? I just used the wires off the explorer cause the ends were in better shape
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Then whats the problem? If u did what I just said and rewired connector 139 under the master cylinder then ur set as far as battery harness goes.
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My 98 is wired a little differently than your 04. I didnt say I had an issue? I said it kinda sucked only cause I loathe wiring. All I am waiting on now to finish the wiring is to put the trans in and mount the starter so I can trim the solenoid wire to the needed length and I should be good to go
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Oh i dont doubt there are differences. I wasnt trying to correct you or say u were wrong. Just trying to help. I dont know exactly how yours was wired but from what I have seen comparing my 04 wiring to the wiring layout of a friend of mine who has a 98 3.0 all the connectors were still in the same location. Im sure there are differences in pin location tho
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I get what you are saying, I kinda stepped into it with the idea of just make it work cleanly. So there was no real plan
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I feel ya. I didnt have a plan for mine bc no one had done the swap on an 04 truck before so i was blind. Come to find out it was just as easy as any other year. I would think a 98 would be harder having to deal with the return fuel system. You have any performance plans for your truck?
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My truck is returnless? but sadly my motor was a return style so I ran a line. It was simple.

Nope. I just want it to run better than a 3.0 which shouldnt be difficult. I really shouldnt even be doing the swap seeing as how this is my DD most of the time. Its just hard to bite down the fact of putting a 3rd 3.0 in the truck along with its 4th trans (3rd if I were to get the 5 speed rebuilt). So I went the 5.0 route. If I want a fast/fun/powerful truck I have my powerstroke for that
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I was under the impression your truck already had a return line. And you will be satisfied no doubt about it. I dont blame you for going 5.0. Reliabilty is much better. Plus aftermarket support is awesome.
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They really dont make crap for a 3.0. It kind of sucks

So I got my exhaust in the mail today. Doesnt seem right that I spent more on factory exhaust parts than I did my 5.0 motor
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How much did you pay for your motor? That doesnt seem right. I had my exhaust ran by a shop. dual pipes, No cats, with knock off 40 series and it cost me about 450
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motor with all the wiring, computer, accessories, and some other odds and ends were 250 from a u pull it place. I ordered brand new catalytic converter pipes (the ones right off the manifold) and they cost me 360. So far its the most expensive part of the swap
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Thats not bad at all. I think you got an awesome deal on parts. Are you running stock manifolds?
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Yeah, show me where to get torque monsters and its done. Their site says you can't order them right now
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The 5.0 Really is worth it for reliability but I got a bum one...Needs rebuilt. How many miles are on this engine?

Oh yeah, I got 20 mpg with my new 35s. But it was all highway.
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I really dont know how many miles are on it. The mountaineer had 184 on it but the motor mounts has anti seize on them, all the intake/exhaust gaskets were new, and the bellhousing bolts were also anti seized so my best guess is the motor is either rebuilt or lower miles than the mountaineer. It ran great when I had it running. Kind of a rough idle but with no O2 sensors thats to be expected

If I can get better than 16 daily driving (80 miles a day highway) I will be happy. Keep in mind I have a solid automatic and I wont be running AWD. Also 235s and aluminum wheels. I should do ok
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I know you told me but I have the memory of a goldfish; what are you doing about the 4x4?
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Uh for now no 4 wheel, here soon I will 4406 swap
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---- torque monsters. They are a nice design and perform well but for that money you could build your own that will outflow those. Im in the proccess of building a set of long tubes to fit my setup. If you can weld buy flanges and piping from summit and build your own. I believe hooker headers makes a kit to build your own. Only like 150 for flanges piping and collectors. You can choose from different sizes depending on your setup. I wouldnt even think of spending 800 for a set of headers
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Smart choice going with a 4406. Im gettint rid of the 4r70W and going to an mrod from a 4.2 f150 with a 4406 behind it. Its a pretty simple swap
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If I go 5 speed it will be a t5. I know how clunky the m5od is.

As far as making my own headers id love to but time kills that. I can't have the truck down for much longer than it is now
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Well everyone complains about the the mrod on the rangers but I beat the hell out of mine pulling trucks, mudding, racing and pulling trailers and mine lasted all the way until I did the swap. I have no experience with the mrod in the f150 but from what iv heard they hold up pretty well other than shift fork problems. But thats what you get were your jamming gears.

The headers im building are based off of the frpp expo header design. But the tubing, collectors, and flanges will be bigger. Pretty much ganna build the same headers with less restriction
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See im used to the beating a zf5 can take. Id swap a zf5 in before an m5od

I've never seen frpp headers before, how much different are they than torque monsters?
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FRPP's are nothing like Torque Monsters. Actually, they more closely follow the same general shape as the stock Ex sheet metal manifolds. More consistent tube diameter than stock but they are still ported together in weird ways.

IMO, the FRPP's are better than stock but not nearly as good as the TMH. The TMH are also compromised by the tight Ranger/Explorer engine bay but they are still the best bolt-on available (if available).

Stock above, FRPP below:
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Wow those look rather cheap, But I see what you mean about the uniform pipe diameter
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5.0 is ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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