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Your truck should have up stream and down stream O2 sensors, right now you have a rich code for both banks.

The speed shop should have access to tuning software to help tune your computer to help make up for the missing cats.

I would not do this until you are done with any performance modifications you may be considering. I have a feeling your not going to stop with headers exhaust and possibly high flow air intake system.

Once your done with modifications to the engine you will also have to deal with the check engine light and the codes you will get for the down stream O2 sensors.

The speed shop Should have provisions for that as well.

None of this will be cheap compared to just installing cats on your truck.

But I already know what you will say about that. LOL

If you want a diy option which is not as good but may work for you.

They have high flow performance cats Magnaflow sells some as cheap as about 60 bucks each yet you will still have to deal with the downstream O2 sensor codes that will appear.

They have cheap O2 sensor spacers that may help but I have read where even with high flow cats and the spacers people get the codes back intermittently.

Some companies offer a electronic box to spice into the down stream O2 sensor harnesses to trick the computer and help keep the light off.

If this was my truck and your money I would have the engine rebuilt with some trick flow or Eldedbrock heads, cam and lifters plus a high flow intake manifold, larger throttle body, a stroker kit, larger injectors, etc then get it tuned and have them deal with the down stream O2 sensor codes.

What we do not know is if the missing cats are causing the rich bank codes.

With this in mind you need to make sure your truck is right as rain before getting it tuned to avoid shop diagnostic time then a return trip after you make repairs.
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Ok, well the engine rebuild sounds awesome but way out of my finances. I know the more I do to it the better it should perform but I'm gonna have to live with the headers, exhaust, high flow intake, maybe a larger throttle body down the road. I'm not getting codes for no cats and the running rich started b4 I took cats off. just fyi..the maf sensor is for a 2000 explorer that was givin to me by a mech at work, I paid a whole $40 for it once it proved itself. b4 that I had 3 different mafs that didn't work all that well. it had a running lean code, then I put the mech maf on it and it would start and idle normal. then not long after I noticed the rich code. it wasn't til maybe 5 mths later I took cats off. my intention was too get flow master or magna flow high flow cats but most people say...why bother. when the 02 bunges come in I'm basically ready to do headers. a guy I work with says I should not have it towed to get them done til I put old dash cluster in so they don't write mileage from current dash on repair order. someone else said it cant make a difference since its not a state insp. or worse an accident report....lol, the truck has 92,000 on it give or take a few hundred. current dash shows 192,000..get my drift..
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I would have addressed any problems before I considered a cat delete modification.

I guess for now you will have to connect a quaility scan tool and see if you can track down your problem.

It could just be a MAF since you got a used one, but for now the problem needs to be diagnosed.
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I wasn't looking to do a cat delete mod, I took cats off only because I thought they were going bad/plugged up? Guy at muffler shop suggested I do the cat delete to get ecu to think they r there. But like u said , it might be cheaper to put 2 high flow cats on instead. Or not and live with issue til I figure out why I have running rich code which could possible be the maf since it's used..odd thing, if I buy one for 97 mountaineer at work it's $100 at least. If I ask for the 2000 mountaineer maf and get the new motorcar ft it's around $55.00. I know which one I'll get..lol. how's the weather treating u...hoping all is well
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I'm looking at maybe moving the oil filter bracket to left outside frame ral, maybe, I like it where it's at but this would shorten hoses and put filter closer to motor. The instructions I had said I could put it on firewall if I chose or top of rad but I didn't see the space in those choices. A guy at parts store recommended I put spark plug anti foulest drilled open on my down stream 02s to give ecu.a cleaner reading for cats...or lack thereof..lol
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We are doing fine so far thanks.

Right now the winds are not too bad and should not be any more than cat one winds provided we do not get nailed with any of the numerous tornadoes.

My back and neck has been killing me more than normal lately and I do not get much sleep as a result so trying to focus on the numerous threads I subscribe to has proven difficult so I will take some time off to avoid giving or goofy advice. LOL
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Hope ur neck and back get better. I'm trying to patiently await the arrival of the 02 bunges and once they come in ill put headers on for good, lol, hopefully. it will get towed to muffler shop and its their baby then. its got a weird squeak noise when I roll down the road. I can only hear it at slow speeds, like barely moving. awhile back while test fitting headers and steering a hose more or less fell out from engine bay...had no idea where it came from. today while looking under truck I noticed the front diff vent has the hose missing...guess where that hose came from.
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Ok my 02 bunges showed up today so I took the time to put old dash back in and this weekend ill be putting headers on. the odd thing with the dash is I did the tach thing last January, its simply a wire gets moved on plug. the tach worked really good after that. when I put in the used dash the tach was off so I figured the tach was bad. well now the same tach that was showing the correct or nearly correct rpm is now off? kinda has me stumped
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Hi, I am not sure what to say about the tach other than people tend to mod them with LED lights and face plates etc which requires the needles to get plucked off and most of the time not put back on correctly.

Why your once working tach is no longer accurate I am not sure.

I am guessing the wire you had to move was to go from a 6 cylinder to 8 cylinder?

When I got my truck the dash was modded and I did not trust any of the gauges so I also purchased a used gauge cluster.

is it possible the needle is rubbing on the gauge face slightly ?
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My truck has been at the muffler shop since Monday, actually got towed there sunday, he looked at it mid day but had to leave early and was off tues, he made the front driver pipe out of 2 bent pipes he welded together. he told me my truck is the hardest exhaust he has ever built and he does custom exhaust a lot. he plans to make mine in 3 parts, all bolted together with flanges he will weld on. he will get rid of my home made ****, the 3 18 in pipes all clamped together. it will be more solid and I just got to live without my baby for a couple weeks. he will do it in between the other shop stuff so he can charge me less. I figured the front pipes alone with 02 bunges would be about $350 or so...he is doing from headers to mufflers and putting flanges on mufflers for $400 so its a good deal for me. I'm just curious as hell what its going to sound like.
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