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V-8 Ranger tranny

I want to stay standard when I do the swap but everywhere I look everyone's using the C-4's... can i use my 5-speed with a new bell housing? or do I need a manual out of a mustang?
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2 or 4 wheel drive? Even if it is possible, I don't suggest reusing your transmission, its not designed to hold the power of the V8. My favorite 2wd trans is the T5 from the Mustang. Its fairly cheap, easy to build, and light weight.
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You can use the t5 or the SBF zf5

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reman-FORD-Z...sories&vxp=mtr
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4x4 and I kinda wanna keep it that way
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I would check out the M5OD then, came behind the mid 90s F150s.
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If you're up to the challenge, you could always try to throw an NV3500 trans in your Ranger. There's plenty of them out there, and they can hold the power of most V8s.
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The age old problem, swap a v-8 with manual trans… into an engine compartment and frame rails that are too narrow, I used an auto when I did my ’88/5.0L swap, wanted the 5-sp but not much around at the time.

Will an F150 trans and t/c work or can the ranger t/c be adapted to it ?
Get some overall length measurements from the two trucks, compare them up and see how much loner the F-150 is.

Does an NV3550.302 Bell Hsg have an internal clutch slave or is it mounted on the outside, same with the F-150 setup.
Not a lot of room in that area, steering box, headers, clutch linkage… TIGHT.

Measure things up, compare to what you have for space and get’r done.
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The 1356 which is what normally bolts to a manual f150 requires a frame notch. Not a huge deal as far as I'm concerned. NV4500 should fit with a 1356 behind it, I wouldn't run a NV3500 not strong enough as far as I'm concerend.

On the otherside I wouldn't swap in a 302. Not worth it, doesn't make anymore power than a 4.0 SOHC and requires a lot more to put one in. The extra money required to put in a 302 could go into a set of cmas, stroker kit etc.
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The 1356 which is what normally bolts to a manual f150 requires a frame notch. Not a huge deal as far as I'm concerned. NV4500 should fit with a 1356 behind it, I wouldn't run a NV3500 not strong enough as far as I'm concerend.

On the otherside I wouldn't swap in a 302. Not worth it, doesn't make anymore power than a 4.0 SOHC and requires a lot more to put one in. The extra money required to put in a 302 could go into a set of cmas, stroker kit etc.
The SBF is the way to go, yes a 327/331/347 would be nice but IMHO a stock 5.0L with a good exhaust and a little more air up front will produce all of the HP/TQ needed to move the Ranger with any size tire and then we can talk cams.

The NV3550 should be strong enough short of some heavy off-roading/rock crawling, the NV4500 is BIG and may take up too much room but I was wondering how the clutch throwout works is there and internal setup, hyd or manual linkage ?
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The 1356 which is what normally bolts to a manual f150 requires a frame notch. Not a huge deal as far as I'm concerned. NV4500 should fit with a 1356 behind it, I wouldn't run a NV3500 not strong enough as far as I'm concerend.

On the otherside I wouldn't swap in a 302. Not worth it, doesn't make anymore power than a 4.0 SOHC and requires a lot more to put one in. The extra money required to put in a 302 could go into a set of cmas, stroker kit etc.
I know of a 302 in a ranger producing 300hp...my 4.0L is at 208hp. Cost is cheaper for Building up a 302 over a 4.0L. Look at all the aftermarket for the sbf and look at the little amount for the 4.0L.

I'd take a 302 and stroke it or throw some bolt on parts on it before I would consider stroking or p&p'n a 4.0L.
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I know of a 302 in a ranger producing 300hp...my 4.0L is at 208hp. Cost is cheaper for Building up a 302 over a 4.0L. Look at all the aftermarket for the sbf and look at the little amount for the 4.0L.

I'd take a 302 and stroke it or throw some bolt on parts on it before I would consider stroking or p&p'n a 4.0L.
I would put the $2000 it takes to swap a 5.0L in and just bring the 4.0L up to 300HP. I know of many 4.0L mustangs with twin turbos and supers. Will take pics for you at this years sturgis mustang rally. Just because there are a ton of aftermarket parts for the 5.0L doesn't make it a smart swap.
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Keep in mind he has an ohv rated at 160, so he would need to swap a sohc into to fit your plan. Not worth it to swap and upgrade, for him the 5.0 is a better choice.
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I would put the $2000 it takes to swap a 5.0L in and just bring the 4.0L up to 300HP. I know of many 4.0L mustangs with twin turbos and supers. Will take pics for you at this years sturgis mustang rally. Just because there are a ton of aftermarket parts for the 5.0L doesn't make it a smart swap.
Take your pictures im sure we have all seen them. While ur at it grab a receipt from the owners for the cost to put a set of twins or even a supercharger on a 4.0. Bet it triples or even quadruples the 2000 that you think it costs to build one. On the other hand if i had 2000 to throw at my 5.0 i would be making well over 300 hp on my explorer motor. And i still would be less worried about my motor holding up than running the unreliable 4.0 i had.....timing chain rattle on an 04 which was rumored to be fixed?
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Take your pictures im sure we have all seen them. While ur at it grab a receipt from the owners for the cost to put a set of twins or even a supercharger on a 4.0. Bet it triples or even quadruples the 2000 that you think it costs to build one. On the other hand if i had 2000 to throw at my 5.0 i would be making well over 300 hp on my explorer motor. And i still would be less worried about my motor holding up than running the unreliable 4.0 i had.....timing chain rattle on an 04 which was rumored to be fixed?
Unreliable 4.0L? Learn to take care of your motor. It's known for lasting well over 500K. Between donor parts and a rebuild most people have a good bit tied into that 5.0L swap. I will keep my 4.0L and toss in a $400 cam and the $1200 stroker kit.
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Unreliable 4.0L? Learn to take care of your motor. It's known for lasting well over 500K. Between donor parts and a rebuild most people have a good bit tied into that 5.0L swap. I will keep my 4.0L and toss in a $400 cam and the $1200 stroker kit.
Learn to take care of my motor? That has been a problem from the factory with the 4.0 sohc since they started putting them in the rangers. 500k? Your ridiculous. That stroker kit and cam combo for your 4.0 might yield 50 hp if that. I could almost yield that much slapping a set of torque monster headers on my 5.0. Correct me if im wrong please

And FYI i paid 700 for a salvage explorer with almost everything i needed. The cost of the swap can vary depending on the variables of the swap.
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Learn to take care of my motor? That has been a problem from the factory with the 4.0 sohc since they started putting them in the rangers. 500k? Your ridiculous. That stroker kit and cam combo for your 4.0 might yield 50 hp if that. I could almost yield that much slapping a set of torque monster headers on my 5.0. Correct me if im wrong please
No timing chain slap/chatter on my 05. 500K has been proven by many trucks. The heads alone has been proven to yield 30HP at the wheels peak, 50-55HP more at 1700RPM is what I am excited about. Toss in a real cam and the 4.3 stroker kit and you will be easily sitting at 300rwhp.

If you honestly think a set of headers will gain you 50HP maybe you should invest in a CAI, TB spacer and an electric supercharger those all say they are worth 50HP as well.

If I am going to put any V8 in the truck a 10 year old V8 designed 30 years ago isn't were I am going to start. The 4v 5.4L is a damn good motor that makes more than most semi-built 5.0L OHV's stock.
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I thought this was a transmission thread not a motor debate....
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