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Old 11-14-2008
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Okay heres my question. Im getting an xcab very soon and i want to put some subs in but i don't no what would be the best so i need you guy's help.


Should I,

A. 3 Kicker L5's 12" 600 watt rms each $539.97 1800 watts
B. 4 Kicker L5's 12" 600 watt rms each $719.96 2400 watts
C. 2 Kicker L5's 15" 750 watt rms each $499.00 1500 watts
D. 3 Kicker L7's 12" 750 watt rms each $714.00 2250 watts
E. 2 Kicker L7's 15" 1000 watt rms each $579.98 2000 watts

Amps
Kicker ZX 1500.1 AMP $449.95 1500 watts
Kicker ZX 2500.1 AMP $899.99 2500 watts
Alpine MRP M2000 AMP $650.00 2000 watts


Okay those are the choices tell me which you think and why thanks! also if you think there are better speakers or amps suggest them away. i want the cheapest loudest combo :) Thanks.
skip the mainstream crap and look into RE, DD or ED drivers. they will flat out own the kickers and will do it in style.

4 12s would have more surface area but the 15s will be louder. are u gunna DB drag this or is this for fun? in reality...2 12s in a ported box will be more then enough...u can always do a blow through and 4 15s...
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skip the mainstream crap and look into RE, DD or ED drivers...
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well, im goin for an Fi next, but nothing will ever replace the ED i had
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let me say one thing, Evan, in Houston.. had 1 10" sub in his truck, and the box was all of the back seat and it came up to the head rests almost..


that thing was ******* CRAZY! just get 2 12's tops and build you a nice box.. I have 1 12 and its fine for me.
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hmm... well i think i am going to go with 2 l7 15's i looked at the re stuff and thats just flat out to much $$ the l7 15s are pretty cheap for what they do... im pretty sure im set on 2 l7 15"s
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id go with the two 15 l7s. go big or go home haha.

i have my 2 15" p1s that im going to fit behind my seat in my regular cab. i just need to make the box haha
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Old 11-21-2008
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Can you even fit 4 12"s in a ext cab Ranger?
Yep.

I fit 2 15's no problem. I used to compete as well. I am taking the ported box out and putting in a sealed box over Xmas break because I dont compete anymore.

It is always fun to have a lot of bass in your truck. Especially at stoplights. I dont cruise around looking to let everyone know what I am listening to, but when other people try at stoplights I show them what's up. It's also fun to let people demo my truck and hair tricks are always fun.

2 L7's would be pretty loud if you build the box right. Take out your jack and jump seats and put the jack in your back doors (if you have a 4dr) and take out the back interior pannel. You can fit a 50" wide box that is 16" deep and 24" tall and still have a comfortable seating position if you aren't much taller than 5'8''. Before you put in the box, put 2-3+ layers of sound deadening on the back wall or it will smack the bed whenever the bass drops really low.

The box should be up firing subs, up firing port if you use your maximum dimensions. If you want to make the box a little taller and have it go over the back window ledge (or if the L7's dont need more than 3cuft net) then make the box 44" wide and do up firing subs, side firing port on the driver's side.

If you arent going to compete (or dont care that you will be put in super street), then you can make the box taller if you need more space.

Use the bolt holes for the jump seats to bolt the box down.

Either use two 6" aeroports or at least 90sqin of port area.
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i dont know that much about subs and stuff i've had a few but if you want lots of bass and volume then just go big or go home with the 2 15" L7s but the only thing is i dont honestly think you will have enough room in a standard cab to fit the box required for even one 15" L7 let alone 2. like some people have said it's more about the box than the sub in most cases. thats just my .02. i really want to see it all when you get it done though. and good luck man.
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Kicker Dual 12" Vented Enclosure with Kicker Comp Subwoofers
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How does any of your trucks hold up? You guys with the 15s and 18s must have interior panels falling off... I just had one l5 kicker in a ported box with a 750.1 kicker amp and when I cranked it up every panel in the truck rattled so much you could hear them over the bass. I have a crack in my windshield and it would grow with each hit from the sub. Maby my truck is just in worse shape, and the panels aren't fitting well any more.
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I had an audiobahn immortal 15" , 2000w rms, in my neon that was amazing. Crisp and loud as ****.

A cousin had 2 audiobahn 12"s (cant remember model) in a blazer and he would rattle the house from 50 yards away. I'm not exagerating either. But when you sat in it you could still hear the lyrics while you bounced in the seat. It was probably the most defined bass sound I've ever heard in person from a non-comp vehicle.
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i didn't even read this whole thread and probably dont need to.. that's wayyy overkill bro. i dropped $2000 into a system and completely regret it. just get 1 10" or 12" sealed sub and be done with it. the bass will sound good for a month or so.. and then you'll get tired of it..
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How does any of your trucks hold up? You guys with the 15s and 18s must have interior panels falling off... I just had one l5 kicker in a ported box with a 750.1 kicker amp and when I cranked it up every panel in the truck rattled so much you could hear them over the bass. I have a crack in my windshield and it would grow with each hit from the sub. Maby my truck is just in worse shape, and the panels aren't fitting well any more.
Sound deadening. I have no panel rattles. To start braking stuff you need a lot more than the 145-150dB that two good 15's will get you.

The minimum recommended volume for the L7 15's is 3cuft net. You can get 6-7cuft net.

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Sound deadening. I have no panel rattles. To start braking stuff you need a lot more than the 145-150dB that two good 15's will get you.

The minimum recommended volume for the L7 15's is 3cuft net. You can get 6-7cuft net.
Didnt think of sound deadening.... Im sure that keeps most panel rattles from ever starting.

It is possible to make large cracks bigger in the windshield with just one 12 though, I promise mine does it. You have to have the right song, nothing blocking the port and sub, sub positioned right in the truck, temp. outside and inside the truck, everything has to be about perfect for it to happen. Everybody that hears my sub cant believe all the bass coming out of it. Also when I say a large crack I mean it goes from the pass. side and use to be about a foot from the drivers side, but now is a little over half a foot from the drivers since the crack never stops growing until repaired.
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Yes, you can make winsheild cracks a lot bigger. To actually crack the windsheild, though, it would take a lot more. I think the back glass would brake before the windsheild. With out sound deadening my setup would make the back glass flex a good inch and a half. To the point that I could hear it hitting the bedliner/bed. You gain a lot of SPL by reducing this (if you are interested in meter numbers, and not just being loud. 3dB is hardly noticeable at those volume levels). My loudest score was my 2 15's up firing, 42" wide box with a side firing port, 3 layres of sound deadening in the doors and the back wall, tuned to 35Hz, peaking at 44Hz, with people leaning against the back glass, 1500w amp wired to a half ohm (so 2500 is watts before impedance rise), passenger seat moved all the way forward, sun visors down, me leaning against the driver door.

153.X on the dash, repeatable, new Termlab meter.

after that, I was done. The box was Super Street 1-2 NW because of the height and I'd need another 5dB to be competitive in that class. To do that I'd need more power and a higher tuned box. Things I was not willing to purchase and I was not willing to do box swaps. My other box (the one in the pic) holds 146dB on music peaking in the low 40's so I ran 139.9 bassrace until I got tired of driving every weekend and spending entrance fee money for plastic trophies.
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Can you even fit 4 12"s in a ext cab Ranger?
You bet your sweet buttocks you can! I used to have 4 12's that fit very comfortably in my old truck. My truck was one of the loudest I've ever heard.

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(PLEASE IGNORE THE MONSTROSITY OF WIRES AND AMP OVER THERE, THAT'S BEFORE I CLEANED ALL THAT UP)



When it was all said and done, I had spent like $600 on everything, and worth every penny.
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Except it looks like something the amigos do down the street. But if you like it hey...
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Except it looks like something the amigos do down the street. But if you like it hey...
See, was that really called for? Did you not ever hear the saying about "if you can't say anything nice..."? Do you want people to tear your stuff apart?

Anyway, I didn't design it to be pretty, I designed it to take your breath away when you sat in the cab.

And besides, I didn't ask you what you thought of it, I was showing you they could fit comfortably.
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I have no problem with people tearing my stuff apart, I do mods that I like to my truck, not for everyone else. Its a public forum your going to get everyones opinion whether you like it or not.
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I have no problem with people tearing my stuff apart, I do mods that I like to my truck, not for everyone else. Its a public forum your going to get everyones opinion whether you like it or not.
Indeed it is. But there's this silly little thing called common courtesy. You don't just say whatever you feel about things. If it's something mean, why not just not say anything? Just because you don't mind when people criticize your stuff, doesn't mean that's how everyone feels.

You didn't answer my question, did your parents not ever teach you to not say anything at all if you can't say something nice?
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Constructive criticism: Mixing and matching subs and box sizes is the absolute worst thing you can do. I'd be surprised if it wasnt ungodly distorted and all around assy.

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Constructive criticism: Mixing and matching subs and box sizes is the absolute worst thing you can do. I'd be surprised if it wasnt ungodly distorted and all around assy.
Thank you for the constructive criticism. I've heard from some that it's ok, and from some people that it's bad. My friends at RPS ultimately decided that it's okay to do. I had that setup for a couple of years, and there was virtually no distortion in that sytem. You would have been pleasantly surprised.
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Will i had 4 12" 2 12" 3 10" 4 10" and now 2 15" all different makes my fav is 4 10" in a sealed box sound great for all types of music oh i have 4 Alpine type Rs will 2000Rms watts now i have 2x than lol
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Whether or not anyone agrees with me is fine, but personally a single 15 or dual 12 L7 tuned properly and efficiently with SQL in mind would be about 1000x cleaner and respectable than your typical "cram as many in as you can fit to minimum box size and and turn your sub output up" setup.

I had two Kenwood Excelion 12" subs (1500W peak, 400WRMS) in a dual sub box, individual chamber square sealed box (about 1.8'ish cb/ft ea.) each powered by a Clarion APX1300 was one of the cleanest sounding setups me and most others had heard. I loved that setup, sounded great listening to anything, rock, country, movies, rap/hip-hop, etc.

However it doesn't seem you're going for SQL . . .
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Constructive criticism: Mixing and matching subs and box sizes is the absolute worst thing you can do. I'd be surprised if it wasnt ungodly distorted and all around assy.

4 12's in a ranger:



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