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Amp under seats - fit

Since I don't have my truck yet, and go figure, I never measured the space beneath the seats in my old truck , wondering if any of you could tell me if a 2-inch tall amp would fit under either of the front seats? Looking at the Profile AP400 to run a small sub - Rockford Fosgate 8"-er. The amp dimensions are 2" x 10 1/4" x 7 3/8". It's going to be a moderated system, nothin crazy, in case you were wondering.

As an aside, I have read that this amp is not too bad but there isn't a lot in the way of reviews aside from what I found at Crutchfield - any opinions on Profile stuff? I can build an entire sub set-up - amp, wiring, box and all - for less that is costs for one, mono sub amp if I go this route. But as they say, you get what you pay for. Space is a premium for me, thus the small 8" sub.
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Yes the amp should and i do say should fit under there. My buddy has a smaller dual underneath his and it fits.
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Just took a look at the amp and it should handle the fosgate fine. Since your only running one you can bridge it @ 4ohms and run a steady RMS and get some good bump. When you are looking for a small amp most are going to be cheap and all pretty similar. Id say go for it.
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Thanks - all makes sense

I guess the main thing is that i need a small sub because I do not want a big box in there. Most good 8" subs don't go much over 200-300watts RMS anyway, so I don't need a huge amp. Therefore, I am looking at compact amps, again to save space. Don't get me wrong, I want good equipment - I'm always after high-quality stuff - I just want to make it sort of disappear, if at all possible.

So, how big was your buddies amp if it was smaller than this one? This one is about as small as I have found......
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if the amp is so small why not put it behind the seats?
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What can I say - I just don't want anything but the sub box out in the open. The grand plan is to remove the jumper seats and jack assembly all for the sake of making room for our four legged friend - the dog's got to have a comfy place to ride too. I think I sacrifice enough room, once the seats and jack are out, to but a sub box for an 8" back there but ther rest I want to keep out of the way.
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I'll see if my amp fits under my seat. I have the Profile ap400, had it since october powering a pioneer 10" slim sub. Never overheated and the sub can handle 50 rms more.
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You can fit it in from the front, but it goes right to the end of the seat. You can see it but yea, it fits somewhat.
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How different do you think your '92 is from the '07 I have coming - I'm not totally familiar with how they changed things between the generations, with regards to the seats and floor pan.
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that amp is pretty darn small. you could probably mount it just about anywhere and it would fit fine. i couldn't imagine it not fitting under the seats.
i have not used that profile amp, but i have a BA400 that is about 5 or so years old and it has always performed very well. i'm not actually using it now, but it still works as good as it did when i first bought it.



they are nothing top of the line, but they are solid amps for the money. they are great amps for budget systems.
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I have:

9W x 7L x 2.5H six disc under the passenger seat.
10W x 10L x 2H amp under the driver seat.

My truck is a 2003 and it has buckets.
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Went to your CarDomain site - nice job with the drive train mods - I particularly like the rear disc brakes - once my 07 gets broken in a bit (ie, post-warranty.......) I just may do that too.

Regarding the amp in the pics under the drivers seat - is that the 10 x 10 x 2 amp you mentioned above? Looks like a tight fit between the seat sliders. How's the fit front-to-back?
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Regarding the amp in the pics under the drivers seat - is that the 10 x 10 x 2 amp you mentioned above? Looks like a tight fit between the seat sliders. How's the fit front-to-back?
The amp chassis itself is 10x10x2. There are also bolt-on cast aluminum covers on the outside that change the footprint of the amp from a square to something like an oval. I had to trim those a lot to fit between and around the seat tracks.

I did not include the covers in the 10x10 measurement. An amp with a chassis as large as my chassis and covers together would not have fit between the tracks.

In the picture, the main body of the amp is roughly where the polished fins are (10"x10"). The curved covers are solid black.
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I thought about doing the same thing but my amps are alil too big.
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Hey Bob - thanks again, I have a better idea of what will fit. Do you think you could measure, being conservative of course, the distance between the seat brackets for me? At the front of it, how close are you to the seat bottom or the slider mechanism? If you didn't have the covers on it, would it have gone further forward? Hey, really appreciate the help - within reason, I'm just trying to get stuff lined up before I get the truck......
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Hey Bob - thanks again, I have a better idea of what will fit. Do you think you could measure, being conservative of course, the distance between the seat brackets for me? At the front of it, how close are you to the seat bottom or the slider mechanism? If you didn't have the covers on it, would it have gone further forward? Hey, really appreciate the help - within reason, I'm just trying to get stuff lined up before I get the truck......
The covers on mine didn't influence where i put the amp. The covers were trimmed after the fact to match the chosen position. Keep in mind that the picture shows the amp with the seat slid all the way forward for rear seat access. In use, the amp is completely hidden from view.

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The fore/aft position of anything added under the seat is critical for three reasons:
  • The volume under the seat is tapered, at least it was before 2007;
  • The seat position must be able to adjust without hitting the amp or whatever;
  • There are wire harnesses under the seat that move with the seat in traveling loops. These could foul equipment added under the seats.

2001~2006 seats only have wiring for a driver belt buckle switch and seat belt pretensioners. For 2007, those are carried over plus there are several new parts under the seats with additional wiring:
  • PS belt buckle switch;
  • PS OCS Module;
  • PS seat pressure sensor;
  • DS seat track position sensor.

The above is what I found in a brief tour of the 07 Wiring Manual. I have no idea if the floor pan, seat tracks or the seats themselves have had any significant changes to accommodate these restraints system changes.

So, I guess that means that you are in uncharted territory on this one unless someone else with a 2007 has more insight into what will fit under the seats.
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i have a smaller RF amp under the pass. seat and it fits fine. About that fourlegged friend at least my canine buddy throws a fit when there is more then just a little "bump" or low freq. playing. just a little thing to remeber. good luck man
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mine fits fine under the driver side seat. Wires are the only things you have to really worry about getting caught on the seat tracks. I lifted my carpet and cut a small hole and wired it so you can't see the wires. Has worked really well and the amp is very protected when the seat is back.
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Alright if you want some high end stuff check out US Amps they offer some great and super effecient amplifiers. They cost a lil more than others but can handle anything within reason of course.
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The fore/aft position of anything added under the seat is critical for three reasons:
  • The volume under the seat is tapered, at least it was before 2007;
  • The seat position must be able to adjust without hitting the amp or whatever;
  • There are wire harnesses under the seat that move with the seat in traveling loops. These could foul equipment added under the seats.

2001~2006 seats only have wiring for a driver belt buckle switch and seat belt pretensioners. For 2007, those are carried over plus there are several new parts under the seats with additional wiring:
  • PS belt buckle switch;
  • PS OCS Module;
  • PS seat pressure sensor;
  • DS seat track position sensor.
We took a brief look in an 07 - I didn't drive one before ordering one because, being a previous late-model Ranger owner, I know what I'm getting. From the quick look though, the floor pan appears completly unchanged. With all the new sensors for the airbag system (a good thing in my opinion), my main concern is exactly how much room is taken up by these items??? This, I was not aware of, and therefore didn't get a chance to look at. I'm thinking now that the best thing is going to be to wait for the truck to come in and just assess the amount of room underneath the seats at that time. There are too many unknown and I don't want to drop good hard earned cash on an amp that ends up not fitting where I intend it to go.
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my amp wont fit.. u would have to have a TINY one to fit mine..
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