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i want to get new speaker

i want to get new speakers with in the next couple of months.

i just want to replace the factory speakers. i do not have the pioneer system.

which should i change first. the front then the back.

right now i won't be getting a head unit. i hope i will be getting xm radio for Christmas or my Bday.

so i need speakers. i think i will be getting 6x8.

what is the difference between 2 way and three way speakers?

i want more voice. when i listen to oldies on the factory speakers it sounds so ugly. sometimes the speakers will destort the voice. my speakers are not blown they can hand the bass buy not the voice.

what do you guys recommend?

looking at spending $75 for the front and $75 for the back.
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hmmm well if you spent a lil more you could get Components for the front and just reg 6x8 for the back..i went alpine http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2047980/4 very crisp sounding and you get most your music off your front speakers so my preference would be change them first but its all user opinon
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Blurple,

did you buy them seperate or all together?

is this what you have?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WOAE1Hu...PS57C2&g=51900
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thats the updated version yes for the rear i put those in and for the front i used the component version with a detached tweeter

FRONT SPEAKERS

REAR SPEAKERS
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i say spend the extra and get a set of components (seperate mid and tweeter with a crossover) up front and a set of coaxials in the back(mid and tweet together)

you will get better sound from components, you could do 6.5" components and use adapter plates, and you will open up alot more choices
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i say spend the extra and get a set of components (seperate mid and tweeter with a crossover) up front and a set of coaxials in the back(mid and tweet together)
do you need an amp for that?

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and you will open up alot more choices
how? sorry i don't know much about audio. i just want better sound quality.
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ok well then dont worry about a 6.5" conversion a lil more work then youd want...no you dont need an amp i just have them running off an amp for more power and better sound ... hooked up to the factory wires theyd sound jsut as good? are you installing them or going to get someone to do it for you?
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i will have someone do it for me.

now i am torn between getting new cd player of xmradio.

at the sametime i will be getting the speakers installed.
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may i ask why XM and not sirius? theres a big post going on about it right now...https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=32027 and ive aso found that sirius an or xm sound better when used with the AUX input on the stereo MUCH cleaner sound!
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i want xm because i like the genres like 50,60,70,80's. and the blues and jazz stuff.

i also listen to a lot of oldies, old rock, christian and country music.

i read the thread.

n3elz said that in Texas xm gets very good service.

i have not hear sirus sound quality. i have just heard the xm quality.
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i drive to school and it takes about 30-45mins back and front. and i do spend a good amount of time in my truck. when i go to chuch and viist my friends it can take any where between 10 to 1.5hrs. to get there.

if i get the cdplayer then i can hook up my ipod to it. but now that i have been at home there is really no good radio stations. so i don't now what kind of new groups are out in the blues and jazz department.
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yea if you changed out to a new alpine they have the connections for both ipod and xm/sirius...im selling on in the classifieds..take a look
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Generally, you want cheaper 2 way and 3 way speakers because the better ones require an amp to sound right. Components are a BAD idea if you're keeping the stock head unit. They will sound weak.

Look at a Crutchfield catalog or something similar, or on the box for the speaker spec's. What you're looking for is called "Sensitivity" and it's measured in db. Basically, the higher the number the louder the speakers.

You'll want something with 92 db or better sensitivity. Otherwise, you're going to be unhappy with the volume level with the stock unit. The higher the better. It's a tradeoff that most do not realize with they buy replacements: better sounding speakers get their audio quality at the expense of "sensitivity". Very sensitive speakers generally have not so much "control" of their motion, and so are lower fidelity.

You might get as much improvement out of just a pair of add-on tweeters to add in and keep the stock speakers overall.

I got some inexpensive 6x8 Jensen XS-1683 3 ways and they've been great. They are NOT the best sounding speakers in the world, but TONS better than the stock POS speakers, lol.

Don't be talked into spending more for really good speakers unless the sensitivity is there or you'll be adding an amp in no time as person after person has found out.
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i just want better sound. now it the jensen will fit the bill then i will look into it. i just want speakers that have a better sound quality. no comp stuff. now if a new HU will help then i will look into that too. i am just tired of listen to the radio. my oldies cds have a high pitch treble and the speakers in the truck right now make listen to oldies sound ugly. i love oldies.
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for a budget upgrade, go to wal mart(bring a cd, cuz they dont pick up radio stations in the building) and listen to the Blue Pioneers i believe they are 3ways. they are about 55bux a pair. i can personally vouche for em, i had them in my first vehicle, (explorer) they have decent bass, and pretty clear highs. i had them running off a pioneer cd player just a base model one(prob like 100dollar one) and although its a tad more power than factory, and more adjustments, it wasnt that big of a jump.

and another option is, do the direct swaps up front, and then get a set of 6x9s and the boxs in the rear, for some more bass and the 6x9s some times come in 4ways so thats super tweeters haha.
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so should i buy a HU first than get speakers? would that be a better way to go?

if i get a HU that is satalite and ipod ready what else will i need?
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Most headunits run in the same general wattage range, so for maximum bang for the watts you have, you'll still want sensitive speakers. The only way to get the very best quality is generally with an amplifier, sad to say. But it's a BIG improvement.

I've heard the Pioneers Eric was talking about and they sound better than the Jensen's I have -- better tweeters I do believe. I don't think Walmart even sells the Jensens I have, though that's where I got them for around $55 a pair some years ago.

If you want improvement at stock/aftermarket HU-only power levels, something like we've discussed is probably your best bet.

If you want the very best sound, consider saving for an amp and higher quality speakers.

Myself? Much better than stock speakers, and a Bazooka sub, has satisfied my need for music of good quality in the truck. My system won't impress anyone, but it's WAY WAY better than the stock setup, lol. I have put a 2 channel direct box on my factory HU so I can tie in my XM and MP3 player directly which makes me very happy right now with what I've got.
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n3elz

do you have a pic of your setup?

ok my buget will be about 300bucks. i will not get my system until late january or early Feb.

i want to make sure what i am getting into.

so if i get a $150HU and some speakers such as
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-yBy8qbv...PS57C2&g=51900

or a little better.

what wattage of amp will i need?

i don't think i will be putting in any big subs. just what ever speakers i have.
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Call me John, Marcus, lol.

Yes, look on my Cardmain site and there should be some pics of the sub setup and so forth. I don't think I have pics of the Jensens, but I mounted them where the old speakers were.

Which factory radio do you have now? I have the older 6CD changer unit which had about 20 to 25 watts per channel -- though it gets VERY hot when you pump it, lol.

You should be looking at a minimum in that range I believe. If you push it too high in a small single-din radio you can end up with heat problems so beware of very high power head units -- they may have long term reliability problems without ventilation. There are units with built in fans though which helps a lot.

If your question was about an EXTERNAL amp, I'll defer to others on that. As far a s subwoofer goes, I think 100 watts and an efficient driver (like a ported box or tube) is the minimum to play. Probably most would prefer 200 watts or more. I'm just running a 100 watt tube, but it's just enough for daily listening.
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john, i just have the single cd player, it is not the pioneer one. i guess when i am ready to purchase my stuff i will tell you guys what exactly i am thinking of getting and will post pics before i buy.
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Yeah, let the others advise you on the exact . I don't buy or use new head units enough to know what's good. I am talking mainly in general technical terms, or what you might be looking for in general, as opposed to a specific product brand/model.
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with that 300bux, are you wanting front/rear doorspeakers, and then a H/U?
i would DEFFINATELY get a good h/u first. i have an 07 xlt, base model stereo, but then i installed a pioneer premier h/u and the stock speakers actually sounded WAY better. and i could have stayed with the stock speakers for a while but i was itchin to get my amps installed haha.

i dont know if ya got a single or xtd cab but you could always go this route:
H/U-good quality front speakers-2ch amp

i have an xtd cab and i ran just my front speakers off the amp i have (40w each speaker) and they were crisp and loud! easily enough to fill an xtd cab. i personally ran the rear speakers sicne i have a 4door, with all the doors open its good for tailgating and feild parties haha.


my exact setup is pioneer premier 6800mp- 4) JL TR 5x7(coax)- Eclipse ea4322 4ch amp, and my poor man sound deading... total i have about 650 into the whole setup, but i wont have to replace or upgrade within the next couple years so i think of it as a long term investment haha but im picky when it comes to audio
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Urandaman,

my truck is xlt, single cab. it has four speakers with a cdplayer.

i think for what i have read on here and the other threads i guess i should get a HU first.

so hopefully by Christmas of mid jan, i will be getting a new HU. then i can get everything else.

your setup sounds like a kick a## setup.
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yea he has a nice setup...im running 80watts rms to each one of my 5x7 off my amp..without subs they sound really good..but there right..get a nice HU and man you wont be dissapointed! i didnt think about that...if your looking for a deck lemmie know i have a brand new 06 alpine 9856 and if i still have it come jan when you want one ill give ya a good deal on it..
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ya just think of a headunit as the brain of your system... your gonna want the best you can afford ha.
with a single cab, i would just run the front speakers off an amp no doubt. are the rear speakers by your head like in chevys or are they on the lower part... if they are by your head, sometimes if ya get a speaker with a hard dome tweeter it will scream in your ear and make u go insane! if its lower, then the sound quality is getting muffled.
grab a set of 5x7 components if ya want a drop in with least amount of work. or the 6.5" rounds.. and throw about 50-80w each speaker and you will have more than enough sound for the truck
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