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Sub Dilemma

Hey guys, So I'm getting a sub to put in my homemade jump-seat enclosure tomorrow, but I'm in a dillema.

It's between the Sony,

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...8XSL104&tp=111

Or, the Kenwood,

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...13W2511&tp=111

Mind you, I'm using a Kenwood 300W/1000W Amp to power whatever sub I'm using.
My main issue is the difference in Freq. Response.
The Sony has 18-2,500 Hz and the Kenwood has 30-1,000 Hz
So, would the Sony hit that much lower?
And the Sensitivity of the Sony is 88 db and the Kenwood is 90 db


Someone help me out?!
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anyone?
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go with the kenwood. ive owned both and kenwood will definetly make you happier imo.
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you don't think that the Freq. Response on the Kenwood isn't low enough?
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well it depends on your amp, box and what you listen to
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or you could buy my 10" Alpine Type R and have a sub that's better than both of those. :)
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Seriously though, My Alpine has similar spec's to the Kenwood and it's awesome. I wasn't looking for anything that was going to rattle my neighbors windows. I wanted a balanced sound. I listen to mainly rock. But it would thump pretty good when I wanted to listen to something differnt or my Wife was in the car and made me listen to R&B.

I'll admit that I am no speaker expert but I would think that with the smaller fequncy range the Kenwood would have a tighter sound since it isn't trying to reproduce such a large frequency range.

(I really do want to sell my sub though. I don't have a system in my truck, have the matching Alpine sub to)
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The Type-R is a great sub, however, the specs are way off from the amp I'm buying. It's a DVC, and the RMS and max wattage ratings are way off from my amp, so it wouldn't work.
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stereo integrity bm? fi car audio?
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stereo integrity bm? fi car audio?
say what?
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well i got 2 power acustik **** 10's and i have had no problem with them and they will about rattle coke cans out of my cup holders. i have had them for just at 9 months now and i am powering them with a rockford fosgate punch 1500w 2 ch.
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i would not suggest sony car audio stuff to anyone!!!! i work at a car audio shop on the week ends... NO SONY actually pioneer is pretty good to tell you the truth for your price and power
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well i have always had sony cd players so i cant say anything about pioneer but i am a sony cd guy the rest of the audio stuff i am not happy with and would not use
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haha, because my friend has 2 sony 12's and a Fosgate amp running them, and that $hit bumps harder than anything I've ever heard, and he's never has any problems with them..

hmmmmmmmm
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well i have had some and heard alot and i wont own them i would do with out than own sony subs or amp
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i'm just worried that if I get the kenwood, the response wont be low enough and it won't hit those really deep notes
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well i dont know what to tell you i have not owned a kenwood but ppl i know cant say anything bad about them. but that just might be because that is a brand they like better like ppl prefer a ford over a chevy
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yeah thats very true
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like now i have a rockford fosgate punch comp. and i wont go back to the lightning audio i used before i loved how they work and i wont say a bad word about them amps but the subs just are not enough for me i needed more power
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Between the Sony and the Kenwood, The Sony plays lower notes better, the Kenwood will make better use of the power because its SPL is at 90 vs Sony's 88
The Kenwood uses a smaller box for sealed so you will get more out of a smaller space.

From the looks the Kenwood has more excursion as well It may hit harder but not as deep as the sony.

Personally im sold on Infinity.

Check this one out for the same price and same place http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...081050W&tp=111
It has a 91 SPL gets as low as 25hz
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i don't think its that big of a deal...the kenwood will sound better and depended on your amp and box design you prolly not going to be hitting anything lower that 30Hz anyway. Also very few songs play that low of a note. MTX subwoofers don't go that low either...a 15 inch 9500 series is rated a 32 hz but those things pound loud and deep...believe what you want but i would go with kenwood.
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From what ive heard with my own ears in my past 9 years the frequency response does help. I do agree the kenwood is a far better choice.

Btw Lower frequencies such as 32hz will seem lower when played louder
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From what ive heard with my own ears in my past 9 years the frequency response does help. I do agree the kenwood is a far better choice.

Btw Lower frequencies such as 32hz will seem lower when played louder
what do you mean the freq. response does help?


And, thanks to all of you. It's pretty obvious that all of you agree Kenwood is the better sub, and I will be going with it! I'll let you all know how it comes out in a few days! Thanks!
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if a sub can not reproduce the note it will just flutter and make nothing more than noise like air comming out of a baffle. If it was not important why even bother posting its frequency responce.


Also Comparing an 18" MTX to a 10" is like apples to an orange. The surface area of an 18" is a lot larger your putting more power into the 18 you can not compare the two.
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I never said it wasn't important. I'm the one worrying about it, haha.
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