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How dependable are the 2.3L engines ?

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my friend found a trans for his 2003 ranger for like 900... and swapped it himself
 
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yeah it's best to ask around before you go shopping with garages. when my timing belt went the garage I took it to said by engine was shot and wanted 2 grand for a replacement with 80k miles and my dad called around and found one with800 miles all rebuilt for 1000. but it turned out that my engine is non interference so the motor was still good. garages always try making fast money with you if your gullible enough to believe them
 
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I would stay away from the Saturn Vue unless it has the rearend suspension upgraded due to a recall. I would consider keeping your pickup since the V6's do not get the same mileage (I have the 4.0) and can only get a best of 20mpg out of it. If you tow some, the V6 may work for you but the engine you have is a great little engine.

A good SUV is a Kia Sorento (got my ex-wife one) and hers is 2-wheel drive and they are rear-wheel drive and they also come in 4-wheel and AWD; may be worthwhile to take a look at one of those also. I hope whatever you get will serve you well.
 
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Originally Posted by 19bonestock88 View Post
my friend found a trans for his 2003 ranger for like 900... and swapped it himself
I'm not mechanically inclined at all. Although I'd love to be. I'm always scared I'm going to break something and F myself.

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yeah it's best to ask around before you go shopping with garages. when my timing belt went the garage I took it to said by engine was shot and wanted 2 grand for a replacement with 80k miles and my dad called around and found one with800 miles all rebuilt for 1000. but it turned out that my engine is non interference so the motor was still good. garages always try making fast money with you if your gullible enough to believe them
Yeah, a good friend of mine from Nebraska was cruising down the intererstate and someone almost merged into him which made him swerve and hit a peice of blown up tire from a semi. He went off the road and heard alot of rattling. He took it to a shop that said his motor was blown and they wanted $3000 to fix it, (It was a Chevy Malibu, He was on his way to trade it in for an F-150) He then took it to another mechanic that put his hand in the rear fender and pulled out a bunch of gravel and said that's all that's wrong with it.

Crazy, Huh ?

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I would stay away from the Saturn Vue unless it has the rearend suspension upgraded due to a recall. I would consider keeping your pickup since the V6's do not get the same mileage (I have the 4.0) and can only get a best of 20mpg out of it. If you tow some, the V6 may work for you but the engine you have is a great little engine.

A good SUV is a Kia Sorento (got my ex-wife one) and hers is 2-wheel drive and they are rear-wheel drive and they also come in 4-wheel and AWD; may be worthwhile to take a look at one of those also. I hope whatever you get will serve you well.
I've read good and bad reviews on the Vue. I think if I switch to an SUV anytime soon I'll look at the Chevy Trailblazer. I've become more and more fond of GM. I did decide to keep my truck though, I'll be 100% paid off this time next week.

Thanks for the replies guys !
 
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yeah, but he used the family mechanic that didn't charge much... i'm sure that if you brought the parts for the swap it wouldn't be too bad... IIRC it's only bell housing bolts, tq converter, lines and wires...
 
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Originally Posted by 19bonestock88 View Post
yeah, but he used the family mechanic that didn't charge much... i'm sure that if you brought the parts for the swap it wouldn't be too bad... IIRC it's only bell housing bolts, tq converter, lines and wires...
I could probably try to find a backyard mechanic but I avoid Craigslist like the plague now, Last year there was a guy offering to replace my rotors, pads, and bearings for $200 if I bought the parts... Long story short... to replace everything I ended up paying over $1,000 because the guy knew jack **** about Ford ABS and I ended up having to have Firestone fix it. There was really nothing I could do about it other than leave his backyard business a bad review.
 
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i avoid CL too... but look for smaller shops near where you live...
 
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Drop by a local Technical Colleges with an automotive curriculum. They'll rebuild transmissions in class and only charge you for parts.
 
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That's the secret there in a nut shell, maintaining a self disciplined maintenance schedule. Mine is once a year, needing it or not. Just finished up changing the fluids in the engine, transmission and differencal plus a lube................
 
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Originally Posted by stedmanl View Post
That's the secret there in a nut shell, maintaining a self disciplined maintenance schedule. Mine is once a year, needing it or not. Just finished up changing the fluids in the engine, transmission and differencal plus a lube................
you said tranny fluid, I heard that its not good to change if you haven't for a while cause the seals and such are use to the pressure and from the old fluid or something like that. what I'm trying to get at is I bought my truck used and I'm not sure when it was ever changed and since purchase I put 10k on it, and it's coming up on 180k would it be worth changing. its a 97 2.3 5 speed
 
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A power flush on an automatic that has never been changed with 180k miles wouldn't be a good idea. A pan drop fluid change wouldn't hurt it, only help. On a 5 speed manual you need to go ahead and change it. Make sure you take out the fill plug first!!
 
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Rard, Most definitively in a in a 5 sp.!! I got my '96 back in early '98 from a used car lot and went through the fluids and filters. When I got to the transmission, it was black, nasty and ran molasses and only a quart +/-. So it doesn't take long to break down. You'll need 3 quarts of Dex/Merc ATF and get the quart bottle hand pump to load it back in alot easier. Also you don't want to pull the fill plug first, you do, the fluid will come shooting out. Just pull the drain plug and use the back pressure to control the drain flow and the fill plug when you're ready to fill. It'll be a 24mm wrench for both the drain and fill plugs. If it comes out like black molasses, pump a little ATF in to flush and use your fingers to clean the magnet on the drain plug to feel for chunks of metal. If t's just fine residue, that's fine, normal wear & tear. Replace the drain plug and fill till it come out the fill hole.and that's that. Should take 2 3/4 quarts to fill.................
 

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Maybe I should explain better. As old as your truck is suppose you can't get the fill plug out!
 
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Originally Posted by stedmanl View Post
Rard, Most definitively in a in a 5 sp.!! I got my '96 back in early '98 from a used car lot and went through the fluids and filters. When I got to the transmission, it was black, nasty and ran molasses and only a quart +/-. So it doesn't take long to break down. You'll need 3 quarts of Dex/Merc ATF and get the quart bottle hand pump to load it back in alot easier. Also you don't want to pull the fill plug first, you do, the fluid will come shooting out. Just pull the drain plug and use the back pressure to control the drain flow and the fill plug when you're ready to fill. It'll be a 24mm wrench for both the drain and fill plugs. If it comes out like black molasses, pump a little ATF in to flush and use your fingers to clean the magnet on the drain plug to feel for chunks of metal. If t's just fine residue, that's fine, normal wear & tear. Replace the drain plug and fill till it come out the fill hole.and that's that. Should take 2 3/4 quarts to fill.................
I enjoy reading your posts.... I would never do anything you say. You NEED to take the fill plug out first. What are you going to do if you drain all of the fluid out of the trans and cant get the fill plug out? Tip the the truck on its side and guess when the fluid is at the right level?

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Also you don't want to pull the fill plug first, you do, the fluid will come shooting out. Just pull the drain plug and use the back pressure to control the drain flow and the fill plug when you're ready to fill.
What the eff are you talking about? Fluid 'shooting' out? How? Mine ran out like oil from the pan. regardless of if the fill plug is there or not, the fluid is going to come out at the same velocity.
 

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I decided I'm not going to mess with the fluid in mine, I'm going to drive it till it dies (or until October when I can get a loan) and have it rebuilt then.

(Or I'll sell it in October and buy something else with lower miles)
 
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aw... just rebuild it... or maybe buy another like it...lol
 
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is there any filters that can be replaced aswell ? I never did anything with the tranny and in a few months months I plan on taking a road trip to south Carolina from pa and I want to start doing some preventive maintenance and i know oil is important but never thought about tranny fluid until recently
 
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i dunno about the newer rangers, but i know the 4 bangers from the 90s truly don't die. I've been saying forever now that whenever mine dies I'm going to keep it and throw a 5.0 in but it hasn't showed any signs of fatigue yet.
 
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i got a 97 would that be in that catagory?
 
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i dunno about the newer rangers, but i know the 4 bangers from the 90s truly don't die. I've been saying forever now that whenever mine dies I'm going to keep it and throw a 5.0 in but it hasn't showed any signs of fatigue yet.
i've said similer things about my 2.0(but i wanna go 2.3T) but it won't die...
 
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Originally Posted by 19bonestock88 View Post
i've said similer things about my 2.0(but i wanna go 2.3T) but it won't die...
2.3t means there are turboed 2.3's lol ive never heard that
 
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