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Old 07-23-2008
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Originally Posted by D. View Post
You just DONT get it and keep on babbling more rubbish..

Davis v. Southern Energy Homes, Inc. 305 F.3d 1268 (11th Cir. 2002), Did you ever see how that ' Act ' has been applied into the consumer world? Ever reviewed any case-law from it or did your ' divinely opinion ' exempt such?

Heres one for you, :

Koons Ford of Baltimore, Inc v. Lobach, No. 66, September Term, 2006
ARBITRATION – SINGLE DOCUMENT RULE – According to the text of the Magnuson-
Moss Warranty Act, 15 U.S.C. 2301 et seq., claimants cannot be forced to resolve their
claims through binding arbitration; the MMWA therefore supersedes the Federal Arbitration
Act, 9 U.S.C. 1 et. seq, as to this point. This conclusion is based on the congressional
intent at the time that the MMWA was enacted, as well as the FTC regulations promulgated
in conjunction with the MMWA.

Looks like ford tried to deny a warranty for exactly of what you speak, did they lost their ***** in court?

Lets hear YOUR side of it, ' Know it all '. The MMWA supercedes what? ' Binding arbitration '. Hmm, can you tell us what THAT might be?

Check this one out.

A mobile home with some ' Ford ' parts.

How about a Bar Memorandum in the State of Jersey..

" Any written warranty shall fully and conspicuously
disclose in simple and readily understood language the terms and conditions of the

If that owners manual says ' no nitrous, blowers, tuners nor pullies '.. they MIGHT get away with disallowing warranty work. But does your rangers ' Owner Manual ' state EXACTLY such?

Simple language, you should comprehend it sometime, mate.

Don't say ' pwn3d ' YET folks.. theres more!

Somewhat correct, but not fully.

Totally wrong. A MFGR cannot FORCE anyone to buy a specific part/item/entity. That would be Racketeering and Extortion.

Yeah, with their (insert whatever you all want to here) in your cranial orafice as well. You just cannot stop spreading dis-information at all.

A pulley and tuner do NOT void a factory warrenty.

What about the Pulley and Tuner? Stay with the program will ya!

No wonder yours is stock! Thanks for informing us why!

No shiznit! X-cal and most UDP MFGR's.. guess what they do? ' Meet or exceeds.. '.. Tell us all what they ' meet or exceed '!

2 things here.

1.) Fords Warranty and your banter mean NOTHING in case law nor in the courts.
2.) If a part was made that ' meets or exceeds ' OEM standards, its a slam shut case.

Your ' Only OEM is good ' rubbish is getting VERY old ' Bob '.

Lets see.. Intakes, Tuners, Pullies, Exhausts.. Just what do YOU think can actually be modified without God's blessing and receive praise? You ever heard of SEMA? Ever checked out their site and took a GOOD LOOK at what your preaching in comparison to what the laws of our land state?

Ok folks.. you all can say it now..

Gee D, can't you do better than that? The cases you showed had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH PERFORMANCE MODS!!!!!!

I guessed you didn't read my post from Joe Bradley!!!

If the Magnuson-Moss Act protected these "performance" accessory companies, why would K&N put this in their warranty statement:

"K&N will not be responsible for any other expenses incurred by the customer under the terms of this warranty, nor shall it be responsible for any damages either consequential, special, contingent, or otherwise; or expenses or injury arising directly or indirectly from the use of the K&N Air Filter."

D, I suggest you read the Joe Bradley post, and read this! This applies directly to the Magnuson-Moss Act, and PERFORMANCE MODS!!!

And D, you missed some important information in the Magnuson-Moss Act you posted:

1.The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (15 U.S.C. 2302(C))
This federal law regulates warranties for the protection of consumers. The essence of the law concerning aftermarket auto parts is that a vehicle manufacturer may not condition a written or implied warranty on the consumers using parts or services which are identified by brand, trade, or corporate name (such as the vehicle maker's brand) unless the parts or service are provided free of charge. The law means that the use of an aftermarket part alone is not cause for denying the warranty. However, the law's protection does not extend to aftermarket parts in situations where such parts actually caused the damage being claimed under the warranty. Further, consumers are advised to be aware of any specific terms or conditions stated in the warranty which may result in its being voided.

From Ford's Warranty:

Damage Caused By:
*accidents, collision or objects striking the vehicle
*theft, vandalism, or riot
*fire or explosion
*misusing the vehicle, such as driving over curbs, overloading, racing,
or using the vehicle as a stationary power source
*altering or modifying the vehicle - including the body, chassis, or
components - after the vehicle leaves Ford’s control

*non-Ford parts installed after the vehicle leaves Ford’s control. For
example, but not limited to, cellular phones, alarm systems, and
automatic starting systems

*tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems, or
with other parts that affect these systems

The law states in relevant part:
No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name... (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).

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Old 07-23-2008
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Originally Posted by D. View Post
I care not for what HE says, but what YOU have said. If not for others, would YOU even have an opinion?

If ' Joe Bradley ' never existed, would your dribble have never existed as well?

Go **** with your Nikon as your useless as an Auto Enthusiast. You contribute NOTHING, and thats the plain, in-sight, truth. Sad, isn't it?

What I think a great thing is.. People just ' forget ' about most of what you have ever posted as its mostly useless. Maurice owned you on E-fans, Rich has put down MANY of your theories, Mark has taken you to task on your rubbish too many times.. and now your trying to use *someone elses* words to prove your relevance.

They say Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one..

You must suffer from the WORST case of constipation as you apparently don't have your own opinion. ( I know someone is going to rob that one for their sig.. LOL! )

What's wrong D, can't you find anything to back your claims up???
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Didn't I mention something regarding being ' backed up ' and someone probably snagging it for their sig earlier ? ROFL!

You prove your relevance once more, thanks for the laughs.

Still nothing D..................
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