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Old 01-19-2012
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Got a reply back already from FSWerks as follows, "Thanks for your email. Our turbo manifold might work, but we aren't sure since we've never done a test fit for clearance.". I asked them when they could, to send me the dimensions of this header manifold. Told them I've got 8"-8.5" of space between the head ports and AC box, and I'll have to reroute the heater hoses to open it up.

I'm sure that the Duratec head is wider due to it being a dual cam, so take off an inch or two. We'll see.

Now this is the way a forum is suppose to be, working together to solve problems and not bad mouthing just because we don' think as they do. Lates Brother..........
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yes sir. i believe youll be alright. you might even be able to find a bottom mount manifold where it puts the turbo down beneath th AC box. Im all about suggesting new ideas and such. if that doesnt work try e-mailing this company and see if its a top or bottom mount and if its for the 2.3L duratec motor.

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Just want to say thanks again, gotta cut out, we're getting hammed by a "Nor Wester" with gale force winds 55-65 mph. Nothing new, glad to see it, been dry winter so far, Take Care, Lates.............
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once again toss a turbo on it and youll be alright! do you have the 2.3 lima in the early 2001 or the 2.3L duratec. if you have the duratec youll be sitting fancy. get a turbo manifold from a ford focus run a 60-1 and push 250whp easily.
250whp in a 2.3 Ford Ranger with a turbo. And all I need to do that is a turbo manifold from a ford focus?! Seems a little too good to be true. How fast will this modification kill my truck?
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250whp in a 2.3 Ford Ranger with a turbo. And all I need to do that is a turbo manifold from a ford focus?! Seems a little too good to be true. How fast will this modification kill my truck?
the duratec line of motors are very strong motors. for gods sake the 3.0L duratecs rods are good for 500bhp and they were used in the Astin Martin v10's the v6's cranks are good for 1200hp so i dont see why the 2.3L couldnt handle 250whp which is around 280-290 bhp. horsepower is not what kills a turbo motor. what kills a turbo motor is a torque spike and how much torque its pushing. the 1.8t motors can handle around 350whp and around 300tq which is pushing it but if done right can handle it. now you put a small turbo that has a large tq spike it wont even see 250wtq before it blows its bottom end. a ton of people underestimate the duratec motors i dont see why 250whp couldnt be done with the right tune and the right turbo. the 2.0L duratecs from fswerks are pushing 220whp and tq at 11psi on 91 octane. i dont see why a 2.3L couldnt make it to 250whp. And its also not as simple as just getting the exhaust manifold. you still have to put money into a good wastegate and a good diverter valve/ BOV i recommend diverter valve since they are easier to tune and are probably better for a turbocharged car then a BOV. I would also go with either a 60-1 or a GT2871R the GT will spool faster and also catch itself during shifting better then a journal bearing turbo charger

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mazda 3 and mazda 6 with the 2.3L are also duratec check out some of the turbokits for them. just saw a video where a guy pushed the stock mazda 3 2.3 duratec at 265whp

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I'd say 4.10's the newer 2.3 rangers come with em stock. Having driven a 08 with only cat back glasspack, compared to the higher geared, 3.73 etc., 2.3 trucks it's night and day.

You can't kill a 3.0, unfortunately. I've known several people who have tried very hard.

1200hp? On a DT crank, bs.
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I'd say 4.10's the newer 2.3 rangers come with em stock. Having driven a 08 with only cat back glasspack, compared to the higher geared, 3.73 etc., 2.3 trucks it's night and day.

You can't kill a 3.0, unfortunately. I've known several people who have tried very hard.

1200hp? On a DT crank, bs.
well 1200 may be high but let me show you a duratec 3.0L pushing 970 hp with the stock crank. forged pistons and rods. I talked to him on the noble forums back when i was looking at getting the 3.0L duratec for my truck. everyone was like whered you get the crank for that kinda power? and he was like its the stock crankshaft just forged pistons and rods. he said he has seen a stock crankshaft handle 1200hp. nd also the noble m400 and rossion q1 use the duratec motors. the stock crankshaft is forged steel

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Touche.

Hey, can't knock a 1000hp 3.0. But I can't imagine the money that was put into it to make that much power.

Sometimes you just gotta build a V8. lol
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Touche.

Hey, can't knock a 1000hp 3.0. But I can't imagine the money that was put into it to make that much power.

Sometimes you just gotta build a V8. lol
oh i agree but the nobles/rossions engine bay is very tight so the v8 wouldnt work. but i do believe the 2.3L duratec has a steel forged crank as well. i could be very wrong but the mazda 2.3L have more internal parts then on the ford side. i really want to get a new ranger with a 2.3L and get it jacked up on roids! but i would also enjoy getting a ranger and putting the 3.5L ecoboost in it and updateing the interior to that of a new ranger. the lighter the better!!! Just found out the 2.3L in the fords have cast crankshafts not the forged like in the mazdas. But what it seems like to me is that you could get a mazda 2.3L and it should have the same mounting points as the 2.3L from the fords the block is just machined different

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WOW is all i can say after reading this thread. OP if you are serious about wanting to build the motor it will top out around 200hp NA, the intake manifold and head being the big limiting factor, and turbo gets as crazy as you can afford.

Facts: the 23ns consists of a 2.3 block but uses the smaller d20 focus head to produce better torque, its the only d23 to not have a balance shaft, only d23 that comes with a forged crank( though cossie recommends no more the 7500rpm), it also the only d23 that comes with metal timing chain guides(same as cosworth sells as "performance" for focus).

Depends on how much you want to spend, theres no such thing as cheap hp. cams, pistons, rods, are all out there. the mzr header for an mx5 will bolt up to the block. tuning it on the dyno with a programmer like SCT is the only tune that going to do anything. you can check and see if your truck came with a mech fan and e-fan, removing the mech fan is free. pull the intake silcencer will increase sounds but nothing else.
http://focus.c-f-m.com/engine_14.aspx
http://www.racingbeat.com/Miata-MX5-...ers/56010.html
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http://forums.focaljet.com/duratec-tuning/
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/f...splay.php?f=41

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Old 01-20-2012
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if you do decide to get pistons and rods. don't go with cosworth they are way to expensive for what you get and its just a specialty manufacture. go with eagle rods the h beams can handle 900 hp or so. unless its a drag car where you need billet rods (like the cosworth ones) just get forged h beams. and the pistons go with wiseco or JE
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Hey Sickranbger3.0, Just wanted to invite you, matter of fact anyone that appreciate the 2.3 to swing by "mypowerblock.com" and the "Ford Ranger 2.3 Group" and just give it a review and tell me what you think about the Discussion Forum" on the comment wall. Hope to see ya there, Lates Lee.........

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Flying Miata has a supercharger/intercooler kit for the MX5, same head as a Duratec, looks like it would fit, would need somewone with fabrication & tuneing skills to adapt it to live on a Duratec
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Like others have said, start with a set of 4.10's. If you can find an extended cab Lima 4 cyl, those should all have them. I've never thought about a tune, but would it be significant? It helped a lot on my Mustang but of course there's a lot more potential in even a 4.6 2V.
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Hey guys, I am new to the forum. I am sure this topic has been on here before but I thought I'd give it a go. I just bought a 2001 Ford Ranger XLT Regular Cab 2.3 with the 5-speed manual.

What can I do to add performance to the truck without doing any serious damage to it?
So far I have upgraded the spark plugs and wires and that is it.
Does a CAI/Short Ram make any difference? Does the airbox mod make any difference?
Will a Flowmaster or other muffler make a difference?
Will a changed axle ratio help?
What else can I do for power?
What makes the most difference?
Anyone use the JET performance module?

Any and all positive and constructive feedback will be appreciated.
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CAI installed under the body so as to suck in cold air would help a little bit, and sound cool, the airbox mod does like a short ram intake and sucks in hot engine bay air
Flowmaster or Mangaflow and MBRP exhaust systems sound nice, but it depends which one you get
Axle ratio is not something you really want to mess around with, in my opinion
Throttle Body work, port and polish, forged pistons, rebuilt engine, high flow injectors, MSD ignition controller and high output coil and plugs and wires, header(s), high flow cat(s), muffler...yea

Jet was the most terrible load of crap I have ever put on a vehicle, for cost its okay I guess, but I went with the Diablosport Trinity Programmer which for 500 bucks really does work well
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OK, What I'm testifying to are the mods that I have performed to my '96 Ranger 2.3 Lima read carefully. When I installed the K&N cold air induction I got rid of the "air muffler" that was incorporated in the stock application. I noticed a quite smoother acceleration and a slight gain as in horsepower, not the 25-35 as advertised. But I accomplished what I wanted to do , get rid of the "air muffler"
Also, hope it's not a dumb question, but can you tell me what model K&N you got or if it matters? I need to replace mine anyways, I wouldn't mind cleaning up the setup at the same time and getting a couple hp. Thanks

Sorry I think I've got it, I see E-0995.

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Also, hope it's not a dumb question, but can you tell me what model K&N you got or if it matters? I need to replace mine anyways, I wouldn't mind cleaning up the setup at the same time and getting a couple hp. Thanks

Sorry I think I've got it, I see E-0995.
There are no dumb questions.
I have currently a stock air box with the bottom cut off and the air muffler removed, with a K&N Drop In Lay Flat Air Filter. I plan on going to an Airraid Cold Air Intake Kit next summer.
The air filter is nicer because it is able to be cleaned instead of replaced, and although it doesn't really add more power, it makes a better sound in the engine bay. A full CAI kit by K&N would make it a good roar and they claim maximum around 17 HP increase.
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There are no dumb questions.
I have currently a stock air box with the bottom cut off and the air muffler removed, with a K&N Drop In Lay Flat Air Filter. I plan on going to an Airraid Cold Air Intake Kit next summer.
The air filter is nicer because it is able to be cleaned instead of replaced, and although it doesn't really add more power, it makes a better sound in the engine bay. A full CAI kit by K&N would make it a good roar and they claim maximum around 17 HP increase.
Thanks, I was wondering about the CAI's as well. I saw a dyno chart of the K&N and was considering that until I saw the sticker shock, but I might go for it in the future. An extra 6-10 hp as I saw would be significant as little as I'm currently making

Is the real hp difference between the drop-in and CAI just because of the tubing to insulate heat out of the air? Seems like a big difference for having essentially the same filter.
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i have a cai fipk kit on my '03 2.5l. made virtually no difference. my brother bought it after i got one for my jetta(actually made a difference, was njen performace). though mine is completely stock. mine is also the 2.5l, which is apparently a throw away engine lol.
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vwfenix, you replaced your 2.3l Duratec with a 2.5l?
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