1997 Ranger 5r55e why only one year transmission?
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1997 Ranger 5r55e why only one year transmission?
I recently purchased a 97 Ranger with the 4.0, 2 wheel drive, 5r55e transmission. I bought it with a bad transmission. After calling all of the salvage yards they all say that this is a one year transmission and no other 5r55e will work. One question they all ask is if I have the over drive drum sensor which I think I do. I already removed the old transmission. I guess my question is, what makes this a one year only transmission? Is there a way to make one out of a ranger a few years newer work? Thanks for any information.
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Popular myth started by transmission shops that had never seen Over Drive automatics before, and never read up on them
They would do a soft parts rebuild, clutches and bands, which pretty much guaranties it will be back in the shop in 12 to 18months
And instead of saying "oh, I must have made a mistake", they would say "its a bad design", lair liar pants on fire, lol.
The A4LD and its next generation 4R55E are the same mechanically, as is the 5R55E
Off roaders came up with a method of turning on OD while still in 1st, and in 2nd, making the A4LD a 6 speed instead of a 4 speed
So in 1997 Ford added software to computer to turn on OD while still in 1st, giving the 4R55E(4 speed) and new 2nd gear, and they renamed it 5R55E, a 5 speed
Anyway these transmissions were made from 1985 to 2012 and are just fine for automatics
Ford wouldn't build and install a transmission for 27 years if it self destructed in 12-24 months, lol
Not that car makers don't goof up, they do, but they don't let it go on for 27 years
Good read here on these: https://therangerstation.com/tech_library/a4ld.shtml
Especially this part
This applies to 4R and 5R as they are the same transmission internally
And as always, 2nd trans cooler is required on any automatic, best $65 you will ever spend on any vehicle with an automatic
The OD sensor was never really used and was discontinued in 1998/9
Its a two wire sensor on drivers side by bellhousing
You can used any year 5R55E you just need to connect OD sensor wires together to prevent computer from turning on CEL(check engine light)
Read here:
They would do a soft parts rebuild, clutches and bands, which pretty much guaranties it will be back in the shop in 12 to 18months
And instead of saying "oh, I must have made a mistake", they would say "its a bad design", lair liar pants on fire, lol.
The A4LD and its next generation 4R55E are the same mechanically, as is the 5R55E
Off roaders came up with a method of turning on OD while still in 1st, and in 2nd, making the A4LD a 6 speed instead of a 4 speed
So in 1997 Ford added software to computer to turn on OD while still in 1st, giving the 4R55E(4 speed) and new 2nd gear, and they renamed it 5R55E, a 5 speed
Anyway these transmissions were made from 1985 to 2012 and are just fine for automatics
Ford wouldn't build and install a transmission for 27 years if it self destructed in 12-24 months, lol
Not that car makers don't goof up, they do, but they don't let it go on for 27 years
Good read here on these: https://therangerstation.com/tech_library/a4ld.shtml
Especially this part
When having an A4LD rebuilt, there are a couple of things that you need to make sure of. First and foremost, do not let a shop do a soft parts fix only (clutches, servos, and bands). This will almost ensure that you will have another repair needed right after the 1-year warranty is out. Other things you want to have replaced are: forward one-way clutch (always), overdrive drum (stamped tin, replace if out of round or heat damaged), pump (Ford only, rebuilds are prone to failure)
And as always, 2nd trans cooler is required on any automatic, best $65 you will ever spend on any vehicle with an automatic
The OD sensor was never really used and was discontinued in 1998/9
Its a two wire sensor on drivers side by bellhousing
You can used any year 5R55E you just need to connect OD sensor wires together to prevent computer from turning on CEL(check engine light)
Read here:
Problem: Discontinuation of the overdrive speed sensor (ODS sensor) on the 5R55E automatic transmission.
Solution: When fitting a new transmission, there is a fault signal in the powertrain control module and a fault code is generated by the open circuit in the unconnected multiplug. To avoid this, when the transmission is renewed or the transmission housing cover is exchanged, cut the unconnected multiplug at the transmission housing and join the cable ends with a crimped/soldered connector. New transmission housings installed in production no longer have a drilling for the ODS sensor.
Solution: When fitting a new transmission, there is a fault signal in the powertrain control module and a fault code is generated by the open circuit in the unconnected multiplug. To avoid this, when the transmission is renewed or the transmission housing cover is exchanged, cut the unconnected multiplug at the transmission housing and join the cable ends with a crimped/soldered connector. New transmission housings installed in production no longer have a drilling for the ODS sensor.
Last edited by RonD; 12-30-2018 at 11:12 AM.
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Yes, if its from a 4.0l engine, OHV or SOHC, 2WD, it would be identical as far as use, but hopefully it works if your doesn't, lol.
So 1997 to 2012 5R55E will work
It won't have the OD sensor, but you don't need it, if you follow Fords TSB instructions above
5R55E is a model number, not what it fits, for bell housing to match up it needs to be from/for a 4.0l engine, 1997 to 2012 4.0l ohv or sohc doesn't matter same bolt pattern
And for tail shaft to match it needs to be from a 2WD, 4x4 won't work and can't be converted without full rebuild
These were also used in Mazda B4000 pickups and Explorers, same 5R55E
So 1997 to 2012 5R55E will work
It won't have the OD sensor, but you don't need it, if you follow Fords TSB instructions above
5R55E is a model number, not what it fits, for bell housing to match up it needs to be from/for a 4.0l engine, 1997 to 2012 4.0l ohv or sohc doesn't matter same bolt pattern
And for tail shaft to match it needs to be from a 2WD, 4x4 won't work and can't be converted without full rebuild
These were also used in Mazda B4000 pickups and Explorers, same 5R55E
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Thanks a ton. I already have the old transmission out. Been having trouble finding a used one because everyone was saying that it had to be from a 1997. I would love to have it rebuilt or buy a rebuilt transmission. But the truck just isn’t worth it. At what point did they quit putting dipsticks in them? I know my dad has an 02 explorer without a dipstick. Or is that something they only did with the explorers? Thanks a ton for all your knowledge.
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Thanks a ton. I already have the old transmission out. Been having trouble finding a used one because everyone was saying that it had to be from a 1997. I would love to have it rebuilt or buy a rebuilt transmission. But the truck just isn’t worth it. At what point did they quit putting dipsticks in them? I know my dad has an 02 explorer without a dipstick. Or is that something they only did with the explorers? Thanks a ton for all your knowledge.
Rangers never used those transmissions, just the E's
Last edited by RonD; 12-31-2018 at 10:07 AM.
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Well I went and got a 5r55e out of a 99 Ranger from a salavage yard. Unfortunately they are not the same. Not only is it missing the drum sensor which is not suppose to be needed but it also is missing a speed type sensor in the tail shaft. I was wondering if you thought I could switch the tail shaft housing around and it work? I pulled the housing off of my old tranny but am kind of hesitant to do it to the new transmission. The actual tail shaft has a helical type gear teeth to drive the speed sensor. I am kind of worried that the new transmission won’t have the gear made into it to drive the speed sensor.
Edit:yanked the tail shaft off of the new transmission. It looks like everything will switch over. Fingers crossed.
Also, I noticed that when the torque converter is installed it has some play like back and forth. When you pull the torque converter off, the input shaft doesn’t have any play it is just the torque converter. Is this normal?
Edit:yanked the tail shaft off of the new transmission. It looks like everything will switch over. Fingers crossed.
Also, I noticed that when the torque converter is installed it has some play like back and forth. When you pull the torque converter off, the input shaft doesn’t have any play it is just the torque converter. Is this normal?
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What do you mean about move the worm gear over? Are you talking about the speed sensor with the gear on it? Also if you could link me to a rear seal on one of the major parts stores website, I would appreciate it. I can’t seem to find it. By play in the torque converter I mean you can move it side to side like wobble it side to side. Thanks a ton for all of your help. Although I probably sound mechanically ignorant I just haven’t messed with many ford transmissions other than pulling them out and putting them in.
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Worm gear is on the 1997 tail shaft it spins the "driven gear" on the end of the speed sensor
A4LD, 4R and 5R, 44E or 55E are all the same transmissions on the outside so rear seal should fit any of those
Try ATP Automatic Transmission Rear Seals FO-21
$7-$10
You can get gasket, seal and O-ring(speed sensor) for about $20
Don't remember a wobble but may be OK, the front of torque converter is bolted to the flex plate so it can't wobble when installed
But it is odd, when you slide it in all the way, 2 or 3 "clicks" it should be held by front seal, and front pump, so shouldn't wobble much
A4LD, 4R and 5R, 44E or 55E are all the same transmissions on the outside so rear seal should fit any of those
Try ATP Automatic Transmission Rear Seals FO-21
$7-$10
You can get gasket, seal and O-ring(speed sensor) for about $20
Don't remember a wobble but may be OK, the front of torque converter is bolted to the flex plate so it can't wobble when installed
But it is odd, when you slide it in all the way, 2 or 3 "clicks" it should be held by front seal, and front pump, so shouldn't wobble much
Last edited by RonD; 01-02-2019 at 09:43 PM.
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The tail shaft has the worm gear made onto it. The new transmission that didn’t have the speed sensor hole also has the worm gear made on it. That’s if we are talking about the same thing. I’ll look into getting the seal kit tomorrow. I’ll have the transmission in tomorrow hopefully. I’ll post up some pics in the morning.
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Hmmmm
Ok .. I will be putting in the wire harness with the trans also.... So ...can I put the 5r55e in a say 2003-20011 explorer/ F-150 ect?...id be switiching the bell housings and wire harness/trans Computer? I seen in some threds there the same just different sensors(would be useing the harness/comp with the 5r55e) and would have to swap bell houseings...... Ans with iit being eather 4x4 or 2x4... I can swap the shafts or I even seen them being cut to length....I am just asking idk ... So any input is very very thankful!!!!!
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Ok .. I will be putting in the wire harness with the trans also.... So ...can I put the 5r55e in a say 2003-20011 explorer/ F-150 ect?...id be switiching the bell housings and wire harness/trans Computer? I seen in some threds there the same just different sensors(would be useing the harness/comp with the 5r55e) and would have to swap bell houseings...... Ans with iit being eather 4x4 or 2x4... I can swap the shafts or I even seen them being cut to length....I am just asking idk ... So any input is very very thankful!!!!!
First you talk about an Escape, now you're talking about an Explorer/F-150
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You have to do a full rebuild to "swap the shafts" in an automatic to change 2wd to 4wd or visa versa, not really an economical thing to do
No on cutting to length
You can find loads of info on the internet, alot of it is wrong, so grain of salt on what you read
The 5R55E was made for V6 engine power, under 220HP max
Yes, if you use the same year computer on the same year 5R55E it should be OK
No on cutting to length
You can find loads of info on the internet, alot of it is wrong, so grain of salt on what you read
The 5R55E was made for V6 engine power, under 220HP max
Yes, if you use the same year computer on the same year 5R55E it should be OK
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Yes, Computer is called a PCM, powertrain control module, so controls engine and automatic transmission
Yes, a 2002 Explorer with a 4.0l V6 used the 5R55E, not the V8 model, that used the 4R70W automatic
The actual model number in 2002 was 5R55W, the W meant trans had different overdrive gear set but shifting and sensors were the same, so either would work, again ONLY for the 4.0l V6 engine, NOT the 4.6l V8
Yes, a 2002 Explorer with a 4.0l V6 used the 5R55E, not the V8 model, that used the 4R70W automatic
The actual model number in 2002 was 5R55W, the W meant trans had different overdrive gear set but shifting and sensors were the same, so either would work, again ONLY for the 4.0l V6 engine, NOT the 4.6l V8
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RonD...I have a 97 Ranger 2wd 4.0. Transmission seems to want to jump out of OD at speeds like 45-55. I was wanting to replace the transmission and looking back through this thread and your wealth of knowledge amazes me! Thank you. I cannot find a transmission to that exact match of a vehicle. I found 2 from a 09 and 11 Ranger 2wd 4.0. From you comments below I see that those tranny's should work, possibly having to wire-thru the OD sensor.
Can you please comment to this, I would appreciate it.
Can you please comment to this, I would appreciate it.
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Hi,
The problem with 1995-1997 Rangers is that speed signal came from transmission tail shaft gear via VSS, 2WD, or transfer case gear 4WD
1998 - 2000 used rear axle VSS, 2001 and up used OSS, different signal than VSS
You can use a later model transmission and take your tail shaft housing off the old one, the gear you need is machined on the tail shaft up thru 2011 as far as I know
So you just need the hole on tail shaft housing on the newer models to install the driven gear with VSS, so you put your tail shaft housing on the newer one
The wiring for solenoids and sensors is the same, you just don't need/use the ISS and OSS sensors found on the 2001 and up 5R55E models
The problem with 1995-1997 Rangers is that speed signal came from transmission tail shaft gear via VSS, 2WD, or transfer case gear 4WD
1998 - 2000 used rear axle VSS, 2001 and up used OSS, different signal than VSS
You can use a later model transmission and take your tail shaft housing off the old one, the gear you need is machined on the tail shaft up thru 2011 as far as I know
So you just need the hole on tail shaft housing on the newer models to install the driven gear with VSS, so you put your tail shaft housing on the newer one
The wiring for solenoids and sensors is the same, you just don't need/use the ISS and OSS sensors found on the 2001 and up 5R55E models