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I went from 4.10's to 3.73's when I did my axle swap. What a kick in the nuts.

Gearing your truck properly is just a wise investment.
 
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Zack I do agree with you that 4:56's or 4:88's are prefered but for someone that is going to be doing a sas I would not waste the money on gears.
 
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Yeah, that's my only problem... I'm not gonna do my gears or SAS twice, that's for sure (no pun intended Zach lol... Just sayin )
 
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4.10's and 35's are doable for the 4.0/auto. However, as has been mentioned already, don't talk too high on that gearing combo if you've never driven with 4:56 or especially 4:88's. If it were a 3.0/auto combo, I'd step it up to 4:56's (for 35's) at the minimum.

When I steped up to 35's and had the 4:10's even with the 5 spd (as Donny mentioned) it was pretty laggin'. I went up to 4:56's and still wished I'd gone to 4:88's. It wasn't until I got the X-Cal 2 that I really felt like where I'd probably be if I had 4.88's..


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Zack I do agree with you that 4:56's or 4:88's are prefered but for someone that is going to be doing a sas I would not waste the money on gears.
Hah. Regearing is CHUMP change when talkin' about a SAS because 9 times outta 10 the person is going to be increasing tire size. If you're gonna put the $$$ in for the SAS, DO the gears too.
 

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my dad is running 33's and 4.56's with his 3.0 auto, it seems perfect imo.

when i did my SAS i went from 3.73's to 4.10's and theres a huge difference.
 
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Damn you people now I want to get 4.88's and get them sooner! lol
 
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im running 35's and have a 4.0 auto with 4.10 gears its enough to get buy but like most other guys that are running that setup i'm looking forward to getting it regeared someday lol. I think im only going to go to 4.56's though I think 4.88's might be a bit too much for being my DD
 
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Tre, I drove you truck......and it ain't that bad. You've driven mine......4.0L SOHC, 5spd manual, 35's.......and it ain't that bad either. Though...i do want gears. Driving on the highway i have no ***** anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by 5speedin2.3

when i did my SAS i went from 3.73's to 4.10's and theres a huge difference.
4cyl....makes alot more of difference when gear change.....
 
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Originally Posted by 2002FX4
4.10's and 35's are doable for the 4.0/auto. However, as has been mentioned already, don't talk too high on that gearing combo if you've never driven with 4:56 or especially 4:88's. If it were a 3.0/auto combo, I'd step it up to 4:56's (for 35's) at the minimum.

When I steped up to 35's and had the 4:10's even with the 5 spd (as Donny mentioned) it was pretty laggin'. I went up to 4:56's and still wished I'd gone to 4:88's. It wasn't until I got the X-Cal 2 that I really felt like where I'd probably be if I had 4.88's..




Hah. Regearing is CHUMP change when talkin' about a SAS because 9 times outta 10 the person is going to be increasing tire size. If you're gonna put the $$$ in for the SAS, DO the gears too.
Trust me, I'm doin the SAS right lol... Gears are goin in when I do it. lol

I have driven something with 4.56 gears, but not a 4.0L auto.. It was my 2.5L 5pd... I still loved having the gears and locker in the rear haha... I know what you mean though man. The combo works for now

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Tre, I drove you truck......and it ain't that bad. You've driven mine......4.0L SOHC, 5spd manual, 35's.......and it ain't that bad either. Though...i do want gears. Driving on the highway i have no ***** anymore.
Yeah, my auto picks up and goes if I need it to.. Right shane? lol

Your truck ain't that bad, you're right.. It's fun as **** to drive especially with that hurst haha... I do notice the 35's and 4.10's more in your truck than I do in mine though

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4cyl....makes alot more of difference when gear change.....
I noticed a huge difference when I did mine on my 2wd when I had it... 4.10 open to 4.56 tracloc... It was night and day!
 
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Originally Posted by Roach2004
Damn you people now I want to get 4.88's and get them sooner! lol
Yea, I could barely drive my truck with 4.10's and 35's. I actually put so much strain that I blew the intermediate servo on my transmission.

You'll love 4.88, but your revs will be high, I'm at 2500-2600 at 70 on the hwy. At 80 I'm a hair over 3k.

Just a little high for me, I actually wish I went 4.56, but I'm getting 37's when these 35's wear more, so it shouldn't b eall that bad with 37's and 4.88
 
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Originally Posted by TrePaul86

Yeah, my auto picks up and goes if I need it to.. Right shane? lol

Your truck ain't that bad, you're right.. It's fun as **** to drive especially with that hurst haha... I do notice the 35's and 4.10's more in your truck than I do in mine though
You just gotta know how to drive that manual to get her goin' "fast". lol.....it's sorta picky on shift points w/ 35's, 4.10's, and Spec Stage 2.

My truck's kind of a dog on the freeway w/ hills......as you noticed the other day. lol.
 
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There's a key here as well... look at the elevation and the amoutn of power your truck is putting out as well. I can tell ya this, and I'm not sounding like an ***, but ask Matt or I, 35's with 4.10's here is a ***** at elevation. I have a hard time climbing with 32's and 4.10's...
 
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A lot of you are comparing stock gearing and 35's on an auto trans to stock gearing and 35's on a manual transmission; there is no comparison.

With an automatic transmission, the main concern is transmission temps. I ran stock gearing with 35's and an automatic transmission, it wasn't good. The transmission temps was up in the 250* range; that was with the stock cooker and a large aftermarket cooler. If you think 250* is fine, then you better start saving for a transmission rebuild.

My truck with stick gearing and 35's could barely get into OD (4.0 w/5R55E). Once I switched to the 4.56 gears, trans temps went down and would stay at 150*, no matter the temps outside. Power was amazing.

Anyone who is planning a SAS in the close future and still drive their truck daily should atleast regear the rear.

I will say it forever, stock gearing and 35's is NOT a good thing; espically if you have an automatic.
 
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What gears do ya'll think are best for 35s w/ an OHV? I mean the power is completely different from the SOHC..being all the power is down low. The 35s w/ 4.10s really arent bad but it could DEF. be better. Transmission temps on mine stay around 150...I have never seen higher than about 168...just worries me that I dont know what the correct temperature range is lol.
Maurice didnt you have 4.56s w/ an OHV? But Im thinkin it may have been w/ your manual...
 
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I had 4.56's with both an automatic and a manual (I swapped transmissions). I wish I would have went with 4.88's.

The best place to measure transmission temps is in the 1/8" NPT tester port on the drivers side of the transmission or by tapping into the fluid discharge line.
 
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Im thinking of regearing mine sometime this summer, what would be a good setup for a 2000 ranger xlt 4.0l auto with 33's. It has 4.10's now
 
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I had 35's with stock gears(3.27s) ya it sucked... i couldnt even get it into 5th gear on the highway because i had no power.... it was lame..

Now i have 5.13's with 35's, much better
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
I had 4.56's with both an automatic and a manual (I swapped transmissions). I wish I would have went with 4.88's.
Why would you want to go to 4.88's with 35's? My buddy Jesse is running 4.56's with his 35's and he says it's perfect. He also DD's the Ranger as well.

4.10's and 35's IMO while it's doable, it's not what you wanna be doing. When you up your tire size, up the gearing. There's a reason I haven't lifted my truck, and it's not because of the lift... it's because I just spend over a grand on my rear alone replacing the stock gears.
 
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Originally Posted by thesoundmaster
Why would you want to go to 4.88's with 35's? My buddy Jesse is running 4.56's with his 35's and he says it's perfect. He also DD's the Ranger as well.
On a daily driven Ranger, 4.56's are the best choice with 35" tires. I didn't daily drive my Ranger. I would have like to have the power to the ground.
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
On a daily driven Ranger, 4.56's are the best choice with 35" tires. I didn't daily drive my Ranger. I would have like to have the power to the ground.

True, but power to the ground in a ranger is an oxymoron anyhow.

I dunno, I'll probably re-gear to a 4.56 in my auto when I go bigger. I don't wanna compromise the gas milage any more than I have to, but also don't want gearing so steep I can't drive on the freeway.

Thing is this, 4.88's are almost too steep for that size tire. Unless done right, it's just not worth it.

Now, that being said, my buddy Larry (thumper_102) is running 36's with 5.13's on his 94 Ranger, but he's also sacrificed gas milage and gets single digits with it now... Jesse's seeing close to stock gas mileage with his 4.56's.
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
With an automatic transmission, the main concern is transmission temps. I ran stock gearing with 35's and an automatic transmission, it wasn't good. The transmission temps was up in the 250* range; that was with the stock cooker and a large aftermarket cooler. If you think 250* is fine, then you better start saving for a transmission rebuild.
I have an auto tranny and my temps RARELY go over 200* unless I am just beating on it.
 
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Any gear 4.56 and above is 1 bizillion times better for any Ranger with 35" tires.


BTW: unless you have your speedo recalibrated, you have no clue what fuel milage you are getting with larger tires and lower gears; or even larger tires and stock gears.
 
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Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01
Tre, I drove you truck......and it ain't that bad. You've driven mine......4.0L SOHC, 5spd manual, 35's.......and it ain't that bad either. Though...i do want gears. Driving on the highway i have no ***** anymore.
**** with the 4.88s i can hit my speed limiter going up hill in 5th gear... it ****ing moves now, the rpm's are high but i dont care... like when it says i am doing 80 i am at 3k but just tap it a little more and i am up to 90 like nothing and can hold it up hill and all day long...

4.88's and 35's are the ****
 


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