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let it known that anyone who has NEVER driven a regeared truck with 35's has no ground to stand on.
 
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Im runnin a 285/75/R16 with stock 3.73's and I know 4.56's would be way more fun...

Re-gear its worth the money..
 
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that is compareable to a 33. I ran 33's on 3.73 gears for over 2 years. It wasn't bad, but wasn't the greatest.
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
let it known that anyone who has NEVER driven a regeared truck with 35's has no ground to stand on.
I have. I re-geared my 2.5L 2wd from 4.10's with 33's to 4.56's with 33's... I know what it's like. But as shane tells me..

The bigger the motor, the taller gears you can run. Look at my buddy who was running his duramax on 40's with only 3.73 gears... He never had a problem and his tranny never got above normal OT... But then again that's a diesel and it's an allison.. Still same principle.

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that is compareable to a 33. I ran 33's on 3.73 gears for over 2 years. It wasn't bad, but wasn't the greatest.
So you did run stock gears? You made it seem like you have never run stock gears with 35's.
 
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So you did run stock gears? You made it seem like you have never run stock gears with 35's.


he said he ran 33s with stock gears for 2 years, where did you get 35s?
 
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Woah...this thread is open again? lol.


No...what Trevor is talking about....smaller/less powerful engine needs a lower gear with bigger tires......4cyl with 35's needs 5.13's. Yet, 6cyl with 35's needs 4.56's. Smaller the motor, the bigger the gear.
 
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Originally Posted by ScottG
he said he ran 33s with stock gears for 2 years, where did you get 35s?
I misread it. Same difference though.
 
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I misread it. Same difference though.
Since when were 33's and 35's the same difference There is no comparison in a 33 and a 35; size difference, weight difference, rotating mass difference.


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I have. I re-geared my 2.5L 2wd from 4.10's with 33's to 4.56's with 33's... I know what it's like. But as shane tells me..
You are comparing a 4-cylinder to a 6-cylinder; there is NO comparison. The Rangers need at a minimum 4.56's with 35's. I guarantee you that if you would regear you would also tell people NOT to run 35's on stock gearing.



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The bigger the motor, the taller gears you can run. Look at my buddy who was running his duramax on 40's with only 3.73 gears... He never had a problem and his tranny never got above normal OT... But then again that's a diesel and it's an allison.. Still same principle.
Why do people compare diesel parts to gas parts? If your buddy would have regeared, then he would have saved a lot of power that was lost in the driveline to push those 40's; not to mention he might have gotten back to stock fuel milage.

Engine size doesn't matter when deciding gears. It all comes down to basic math and 1 simple formula (New Tire Size/Stock Tire Size x Stock Gear Ratio). That will give you the gear size you need/should be running in the truck to get the truck close to stock with larger tires.
 
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I sure hope im fine running 25's
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
Since when were 33's and 35's the same difference There is no comparison in a 33 and a 35; size difference, weight difference, rotating mass difference.



You are comparing a 4-cylinder to a 6-cylinder; there is NO comparison. The Rangers need at a minimum 4.56's with 35's. I guarantee you that if you would regear you would also tell people NOT to run 35's on stock gearing.




Why do people compare diesel parts to gas parts? If your buddy would have regeared, then he would have saved a lot of power that was lost in the driveline to push those 40's; not to mention he might have gotten back to stock fuel milage.

Engine size doesn't matter when deciding gears. It all comes down to basic math and 1 simple formula (New Tire Size/Stock Tire Size x Stock Gear Ratio). That will give you the gear size you need/should be running in the truck to get the truck close to stock with larger tires.
It's ALL THE SAME PRINCIPLE... Yes motors are different, but it's the principle behind it. It's still the same!

I've had 4.56, for the third time. I know what it's like.

I'm saying I would recommend 4.56's... But 4.10's aren't going to kill me or my truck.
 
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Wow....
 
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Originally Posted by TrePaul86
It's ALL THE SAME PRINCIPLE... Yes motors are different, but it's the principle behind it. It's still the same!
You can tell you have never been in an engineering class; engine size matters none.

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I've had 4.56, for the third time. I know what it's like.
4.56's on a 4 cylinder is nothing compared to 4.56's in a 4.0.

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I'm saying I would recommend 4.56's... But 4.10's aren't going to kill me or my truck.
When did anyone say anything about gearing killing you
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
You can tell you have never been in an engineering class; engine size matters none.
Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
4.56's on a 4 cylinder is nothing compared to 4.56's in a 4.0.



Sorry had to do it. You completely contradicted yourself.
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
You can tell you have never been in an engineering class; engine size matters none.


4.56's on a 4 cylinder is nothing compared to 4.56's in a 4.0.


When did anyone say anything about gearing killing you
I spent all of last year studying MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. Quit trying to take stabs at me dude. You don't know me.

You really did just contradict yourself. Good one.
 
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Whever, you are right, you know it all. Everyone bow to the dumb ***. Stock gearing and 35's is perfectly fine, it wont harm anything on your truck.
 
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Not getting back into this again. I've been warned.

I just said maybe you should have asked me before you said I don't know anything about engineering. That's all.

I'm not saying YOU HAVE TO REGEAR with 35's... Just that if your stock gears are 4.10's and you're running 35's on a 4L SOHC motor, you're still ok.
 
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one thing to take into account between trevor and maurice's truck is that while they were running the same size tires, they had two different engines.. the SOHC puts out more power than the ohv..

IMO i would worry if running 35s and 4.10s driving city a lot.. however, i would love to run 35s and 4.10s on the highway.. u would get great gas mileage..
 
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Maurice stock gears will not kill your truck i ran stock gears and 35s for over 6 months.


I dont see what your big f***ing deal is.
 
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Originally Posted by black-n-blue
one thing to take into account between trevor and maurice's truck is that while they were running the same size tires, they had two different engines.. the SOHC puts out more power than the ohv..

IMO i would worry if running 35s and 4.10s driving city a lot.. however, i would love to run 35s and 4.10s on the highway.. u would get great gas mileage..
That's also true. I forgot to mention that!

I get MAYBE 20mpg on the highway... Its not that much...
 
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Technically if you were going to be running stock gearing on a 4.0 and doing city driving, you would want the OHV because it's power band is lower than the SOHC's...
 
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I've already said it though... Most of my driving is freeway... 120mi of it...
 
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always has to get the last word in.. Maurice let it go. We don't need a ***** fest here. If you don't like it leave.
 
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So I should now worry about driving my truck w/ my 4.10s and 35s in the city? I mean im confused now....from where Im sittin in my truck it really doesnt seem like its straining anything. Now it sure as heck aint fast or nothing...but I watch the transmission gauge..even driving in the city today when it was around a hundred degrees...the trans temp gauge on my scan gauge never went higher than 173 degrees? Is that a temp to worry about? Ya'll were just sayin something about 200 some degrees earlier??
 


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