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4x4 conversion

how hard would it be to take all the crap off a wrecked or broke 4x4 and put it under my truck? would SAS be easier? could i use an explorer or one of those explorer sport tracks?
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I believe the 2wd trucks are missing a front diff mount.
 
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since you are a coil sprung truck your only option is a SAS
 
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Originally Posted by gatorblue92
since you are a coil sprung truck your only option is a SAS
why is that?
 
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You lack torsion bars which would have made it easier... But since you don't have them it will have to be basically from scratch... What motor do you have?
 
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Originally Posted by yfzman450
why is that?

front half of the frame are different from tbar and coil sprung front ends



so SAS would be alot easier
 
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You lack torsion bars which would have made it easier... But since you don't have them it will have to be basically from scratch... What motor do you have?
4.0
 
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sas that beast!
 
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Wow... I should try reading once or twice... I got OWNED lol

But you could find a tcase off a gen 3-4 and bolt it up to your trans... but it's still gonna be a task. I would recommend selling it and starting over.... Starting with a 4wd ranger
 
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Yeah the swap is super easy if you have torsion bars. Those coils screwed you here though.
 
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i was gonna swap mine
but im sellin the stuff so i can do an sas
its better IMO
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i hate to ask cause i know im gonna want to do it but how hard would SAS be? what major things are needed? do i need a 4x4 tranny? i heard once you SAS a truck that never was meant for it, it would never ride right and you couldnt get an alignment done. true or not? any idea of cost on parts?
damn i ask alot of questions! lol
 
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Take it to a shop and have them do it, if you have to ask how hard it is its really something you shouldn't attempt yourself.
 
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Originally Posted by 04blackedge
Take it to a shop and have them do it, if you have to ask how hard it is its really something you shouldn't attempt yourself.
i know people. getting some one to do it isnt the issue.
would a camburg lift just be cheaper?
 
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Originally Posted by yfzman450
i know people. getting some one to do it isnt the issue.
would a camburg lift just be cheaper?
Well are you looking for 4wd, or travel? All a camburg kit will do it extent your travel. It isnt going to help with traction issues. A Camburg kit will probably be cheaper, but in the long run, I would go for an SAS
 
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4x4 would be a great thing to have. but i would like to strengthen up my front end.
 
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I guess I dont really get what you are asking. Converting it to 4x4 is not going to make it any stronger. A camburg kit will, and an SAS will for sure. But what do you want?
 
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Originally Posted by chainfire
I guess I dont really get what you are asking. Converting it to 4x4 is not going to make it any stronger. A camburg kit will, and an SAS will for sure. But what do you want?
well i would like to have 4x4 in case i ever needed it. i havent needed it yet though thats why i asked about the camburg lift. i though just swithing it to 4x4 would make it easy to get all the part and thought maybe it would be easier to do. but now you guys say SAS would be easier im just curious to what i would need.
i go off road and play a little maybe every other weekend and something other than all the stock stuff would be nice to have. want to just put 35s on it w/ out alot of gap. i would think i dont have a difficult truck to flip. thats why i just want 35s.
 
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Camburg it and put it on 35's if you really don't plan on using the 4wd function that often. SAS is a LARGE project and requires lots of research and homework as well as time and money.

Camburg is a lot easier. I would say do that.
 
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I woudl say camburg it because you CAN'T convert to 4wd unless you sas it because you would have to do a lot of custom work to get that 4x4 ranger front end under you truck since you don't have torsion bars.
 
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how much work is involved putting the camburg kit on? what will be the biggest difference in performance?
how much does SAS usually cost you? not including paying for help.
 
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SAS price is all unknown... It all depends on how badass you wanna make it... What parts you use and who you know.

Camburg from what I understand is mostly bolt on. It'll give you lift as well as stability off-road and strength, allowance for bigger tires, etc... Not to be a d!ck, but search around here and you'll find many answers...
 
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Some people have spent upwards of 7-8k in the project threads on this board. Plus upwards of a year in research prior to the build.
 
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Originally Posted by TrePaul86
SAS price is all unknown... It all depends on how badass you wanna make it... What parts you use and who you know.

Camburg from what I understand is mostly bolt on. It'll give you lift as well as stability off-road and strength, allowance for bigger tires, etc... Not to be a d!ck, but search around here and you'll find many answers...
you just told me 2 things that i couldnt find. 1st about SAS price then camburg being mostly bolt on.
sound like a d!ck all you want as long as you keep giving me info. on this kinda stuff lol
 
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Is the camburg kits coil sprung only?
 

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