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jrpro130 03-24-2006 07:16 PM

7.5 and 35's...
 
Just wondering how bad it actually is to run 35's with the 7.5 rear. I really want to run 35's and I should be able to fit after the spindle lift...but will i "kill" the rear? Anyone ever done this? Or should I just say no to the spindle lift and run 33x12.5's on a MT classic II 15x8??? Spend the rest of that "lift money" on a tuner and exhaust...etc.

KARPE 03-24-2006 07:27 PM

why don't ya just switch rear ends either grab yourself a level 2 rear or a exploder 8.8 get the 31 spline and possibly some rear discs.

level 2 are basically bolt right up...

jrpro130 03-24-2006 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by KARPE
why don't ya just switch rear ends either grab yourself a level 2 rear or a exploder 8.8 get the 31 spline and possibly some rear discs.

level 2 are basically bolt right up...

thats along the lines of what I was thinking...then i'm getting into some major work though...I don't know anything about swapping axles. I mean i'm pretty profecient when it comes to vehicle mechanics, but, i've never done it. And I really would need some help...I belive you have to take off the bed?

I really want 35's...I just think I will be unsatisfied with 33's and a spindle lift. I have a feeling 33's might be too small...I was thinking about going all out with my lift and everything

body lift
spindle lift
lvl2 axle (8.8 w/ 4.10's LS)
15x8's w/ mt classic 2's
torsion bars are cranked and mud flaps are gone


I doubt I would need to trim...I don't see that I would have to

Rangerboy03lvl2 03-24-2006 07:41 PM

you'll snap axle shafts in that 7.5 .... i snapped both of mine with just 33s ... so 35s would def kill it .... just my experience


edit: i had a 7.5 in my 88 b2 ...

jrpro130 03-24-2006 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rangerboy03lvl2
you'll snap axle shafts in that 7.5 .... i snapped both of mine with just 33s ... so 35s would def kill it .... just my experience


edit: i had a 7.5 in my 88 b2 ...

ouch...32's might be in my near future

i'm either going all out or saving that money and getting a lvl2 and bl it w/ 33's and leave the susp alone

RangerNVS 03-24-2006 07:57 PM

Just from my experience, I have a 3.0 in my 99, and WAS running 33's, and grenaded the ring and pinion. I have a 8.8 now, put a set of 35's on for a day and found out that 35's are not a wise choice with a 3.0 Vulcan. LOL had no power, So I'm stickin to my 33's.

jrpro130 03-24-2006 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by RangerNVS
Just from my experience, I have a 3.0 in my 99, and WAS running 33's, and grenaded the ring and pinion. I have a 8.8 now, put a set of 35's on for a day and found out that 35's are not a wise choice with a 3.0 Vulcan. LOL had no power, So I'm stickin to my 33's.

good advice...i think i might spend my money elsewhere

i promised myself I would not do any major mods to this vehicle (no motor/tranny swaps or axle/gears) because thats what i've done to all my other ones. I swwapped my 86 caprice w/ a zz4 and my 88 civic w/ a b16

I really really really want another dirtbike...so maybe it's just better i got 32's, I can't stand these stockers

whtedge05 03-24-2006 08:12 PM

I ran 33s on my 7.5 with 4.56 gears for like 8 months fine no problems at all them i put the 35s on and went wheelin one day and tried to pull a friend and well just say i didnt pull him out and didnt drive my truck home either. 35s are just to much for a little 7.5.

ryanrebel125 03-24-2006 09:10 PM

i can help both u out with swapping some 8.8s under your truck. if u really want to swap an 8.8 pm me.

jrpro130 03-24-2006 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by ryanrebel125
i can help both u out with swapping some 8.8s under your truck. if u really want to swap an 8.8 pm me.

i might do it, but not for a little while depending on how much $ total this would cost.

That would be awesome if you could help out...I would probably do spindles/bl at the same time...or maybe do 2 seperate times. I would def. pay for the beer/soda/food and some of your time. That would be aweomse!!!

rangererv 03-24-2006 09:51 PM

make it till you break it.

New make it stronger. : )

TireIron 03-25-2006 03:59 PM

a 7.5 can easily stand 35s. the 7.5 uses the same 28-spline axleshafts that most 8.8s do (the shafts are interchangeable between them) the weak point in the 7.5 is the spider gears, which are of no concern if you get a locker...

jrpro130 03-25-2006 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by TireIron
a 7.5 can easily stand 35s. the 7.5 uses the same 28-spline axleshafts that most 8.8s do (the shafts are interchangeable between them) the weak point in the 7.5 is the spider gears, which are of no concern if you get a locker...

I was thinking about getting the powertrax lock-rite. It's seems to be the best choice for me.

So if I get that, I can run 35's??? That would be awesome. I mean 90 percent of my driving is on road, and off road I don't even dog it.

RangerNVS 03-25-2006 04:49 PM

I'll disagree with that....7.5's weak point is it's cross pin. Not spyder's.

Rangerboy03lvl2 03-25-2006 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by TireIron
a 7.5 can easily stand 35s. the 7.5 uses the same 28-spline axleshafts that most 8.8s do (the shafts are interchangeable between them) the weak point in the 7.5 is the spider gears, which are of no concern if you get a locker...


that may be, but i snapped 2 of them with 33s, i dont think 35s can handle it ....
also my spider gears were welded together, cheap ass locker in a sense, so the next weakest thing were the axle shafts. and since he is planning on a locker he most likly will break axle shafts .... just my 2 cents though

jrpro130 03-25-2006 05:44 PM

well, i might play it safe and just do an 8.8 swap if i decide to mod my truck like that.

spindle lift and 33's...would that be ok for the 7.5?

or should I call it a day and take the money I would have thrown into the 8.8 and get a level 2???

Red_Ak_Ranger 03-25-2006 08:03 PM

You should just find an explorer axle and get ryanrebel to help you. The lvl 2 axles are a bit harder to find(but if you find one get it).

Maybe take this vehicle here as a source of inspiration.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/678949/1

It has 4.0 tho...and a hot gf...

Aaron

ryanrebel125 03-25-2006 08:15 PM

i can more than likely get u a 8.8 for around $100. so then u can buy a locker for it. might even be able to get u a 31 spline 8.8 but it will have drums like u have now.

crazzyearl 03-25-2006 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by RangerNVS
I'll disagree with that....7.5's weak point is it's cross pin. Not spyder's.

I Personally ate my spydergears out of the 7.5 cross pin was fine and if the spyders were welded the axles cant spin where a lock right will alow some sliping unlike a spool or welder. For the prick of a lockright buy an explorer axle and be done with it.

TireIron 03-25-2006 09:56 PM

yea, if you are going to upgrade to an 8.8 because of possibility of breaking an axleshaft, then you have to go with the 31-spline out of an explorer or FX4 L2. the 28-spline 8.8 used in almost all 8.8 rangers uses the EXACT SAME axleshafts that the 7.5 uses, so upgrading to a 28-spline 8.8 WILL ONLY gain you strength in the differential, it will get you a larger ring and pinion, and a larger carrier and larger selection of traction aid devices. so don't bother going to a 28-spline 8.8 if you are only worried about breaking axle shafts in your 7.5. also an easier solution to breaking axle shafts in the 7.5 is getting a set of 28-spline yukon axleshafts. with those and a drop in locker with the hardened crosspin that comes with it the only spot weaker than the 8.8 is the ring and pinion and actual carrier (which i have seen pictures of broken on a 7.5 and 8.8).

jrpro130 03-25-2006 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by ryanrebel125
i can more than likely get u a 8.8 for around $100. so then u can buy a locker for it. might even be able to get u a 31 spline 8.8 but it will have drums like u have now.

I don't even mind if it has drums...i'd actually prefer it, they are so much less work. I really want this to be as painless as possible.

So you would have to weld the new spring perches on the 8.8 out of the explorer, but if we find a lvl2 one, then it's just bolt up? I will probably get the powertrax no-slip for the 8.8. I have to get my funds in order so this probably won't be for a few more months. I would actually like to wait another 10k miles or so (only a few months) to get my warranty off. As stupid as it sounds ;)

I would like the 31 spline if we could do that. Like I said, it's still not for a few months...maybe we can have another fla meet when we do it. Maybe I'll do everything then...the spindles/bl and the axle/locker

That will be a lot of money!!! And what about changing gears...like to 4.56 (I will run 35's) How much will gears run?

BL=300
spindles=300
mt 15x10 classic II's=400
35x12.5x15 buckshots=i'm guessing 600
8.8=100
locker=200???
gears???

well, thats like a christmas time thing ;)

probably set that up for this winter...I'll just do everything then. I'll drive down to daytona on stockers, roll back up to springs on 35's :439: that would be nice

edit: how would that be as a DD??? no good??? gas milage with 35's and 4.56 (even though I def did not buy the truck for gas milage)

EdGe_wannabe 03-25-2006 10:31 PM

I'll sell ya my 8.8...

It's only 28 spline, 3.55's, but it does have a l/s...

Brenton

jrpro130 03-25-2006 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by EdGe_wannabe
I'll sell ya my 8.8...

It's only 28 spline, 3.55's, but it does have a l/s...

Brenton

I need a 31 spline with 4.10's...you got the l/s part brenton ;)

if ya come across one though, I might take it off your hands

ryanrebel125 03-26-2006 06:49 AM

gears around 150 or so.

EdGe_wannabe 03-26-2006 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by jrpro130
I need a 31 spline with 4.10's...you got the l/s part brenton ;)

if ya come across one though, I might take it off your hands

Okie dokie!

Brenton


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