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Sean04Ranger Nov 11, 2012 03:31 PM

Brake Pad, backing plate no longer connected.
 
So I have been having squeaking / squealing when I apply pressure for a little while and finally got time to do something about it today. I was pretty sure I just needed to add lube to the calibers and then I would be done. But after getting the tire off and take the brake off I found out the metal backing plate on the back of the brake pad was not connected. Seems like the glue or solder (whatever was holding it on) melted or broke.

My question is can I just put it back together without the backing plate or do I have to go buy a whole new set of Pads? The pads are only a few months old so they are in great shape, or I would just go get a new set.

I will post pictures, wanted to get this posted soon, losting day light.

Sean04Ranger Nov 11, 2012 03:42 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Backing on the left, brake pad on the right.
https://www.ranger-forums.com/attach...1&d=1352673647

Together, as you can tell by the dirty marks it is sliding around.
https://www.ranger-forums.com/attach...1&d=1352673634

FULLSCALE Nov 11, 2012 06:17 PM

That part on the left is the shim, not the backing of the pad.

Scrambler82 Nov 11, 2012 07:00 PM

New pads maybe new rotors and if the pads,are not there at all then maybe new calipers.

What do the rotors look like ?

Sean04Ranger Nov 11, 2012 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Scrambler82 (Post 2022418)
New pads maybe new rotors and if the pads,are not there at all then maybe new calipers.

What do the rotors look like ?

They look great, less than 6 months old. The only issue is that the shim as FULLSCALE called it is moving around. Because of how dark it was getting I just put some caliper lube under the shim and put it back on hoping it would stop the squeaking but it did not.

If I were to just remove the shim would it affect anything? I really don't want to spend $50 to replace all of them if I can just stop the squeaking by removing the shim or some kind of easy fix.

sabers1361 Nov 12, 2012 12:30 AM

there should be a warranty on the pads against any defects and well i would call that a defect so you should be able to score a free set of new pads.

Sean04Ranger Nov 12, 2012 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by sabers1361 (Post 2022442)
there should be a warranty on the pads against any defects and well i would call that a defect so you should be able to score a free set of new pads.

Didn't even think about that, there is a limited Life Time Warranty on Wearever brake pads, so maybe it will be covered. I hope it is, because that will be great, I will be going to Advanced Auto Parts in the morning now.

web Nov 12, 2012 06:20 AM

The shims helps reduce some squealing by isolating the pad against the piston. Many aftermarket pads for other vehicles do not come with replacement shims and you can get away without using them. You just need to make sure there's lubricant between the piston and the back of the pad to prevent metal/metal contact. If you reuse those shims, you can get some high temp epoxy and put them on the back of the pad. That will hold them in place.

Scrambler82 Nov 12, 2012 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Sean04Ranger (Post 2022434)
They look great, less than 6 months old. The only issue is that the shim as FULLSCALE called it is moving around. Because of how dark it was getting I just put some caliper lube under the shim and put it back on hoping it would stop the squeaking but it did not.

If I were to just remove the shim would it affect anything? I really don't want to spend $50 to replace all of them if I can just stop the squeaking by removing the shim or some kind of easy fix.

I thought the Pad was worn off the backing plate.

When ever I do my own brakes I cut an angle with a file on all edges, seems to work for me.

Sean04Ranger Nov 12, 2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by web (Post 2022446)
The shims helps reduce some squealing by isolating the pad against the piston. Many aftermarket pads for other vehicles do not come with replacement shims and you can get away without using them. You just need to make sure there's lubricant between the piston and the back of the pad to prevent metal/metal contact. If you reuse those shims, you can get some high temp epoxy and put them on the back of the pad. That will hold them in place.

Thanks, I will go see if it is under warranty and if it isn't most likely go with the high temp epoxy.

sabers1361 Nov 12, 2012 11:11 AM

yeah working for advance auto makes you remember all the warranty info and all that good stuff

Sean04Ranger Nov 12, 2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by sabers1361 (Post 2022471)
yeah working for advance auto makes you remember all the warranty info and all that good stuff

It wasn't covered, it is only covered if the pad breaks in half or something like that.

So I just used some High Temp Epoxy to reattach the shim. Lets hope it lasts, highest rating I could find was 500F.

FordTough2007 Nov 12, 2012 03:01 PM

i dont think i even put the shims in when i did my brakes. i might have but i dont think theyre really that big deal. if you put it back in, then oh well. i would have just left it out and run it.

Sean04Ranger Nov 12, 2012 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by FordTough2007 (Post 2022490)
i dont think i even put the shims in when i did my brakes. i might have but i dont think theyre really that big deal. if you put it back in, then oh well. i would have just left it out and run it.

It was epoxied on to the pad when I bought them, so I didn't want to run without them because they must sever some purpose or they wouldn't be there.

web Nov 13, 2012 07:41 AM

500F should be fine for daily driving......your brakes shouldn't get that hot unluess you're hauling stuff or racing.

Sean04Ranger Nov 13, 2012 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by web (Post 2022571)
500F should be fine for daily driving......your brakes shouldn't get that hot unluess you're hauling stuff or racing.

Perfect, I let it cure over night and put it back in this afternoon. Should be good to go now.


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