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CowboyBilly9Mile 10-19-2011 07:29 PM

A couple questions on the front axle
 
Does anyone know offhand what size the nut is that holds the yoke onto the pinion? And on the right side half shaft seal, can I replace that (again) without separating the knuckle from the lower ball joint and probably tearing the boot with a pickle fork? Thanks!

*04 Ranger FX4 Level II

StxDangerRanger 10-19-2011 07:33 PM

off hand, No idea on the nut size.
But i think you can replace the seal without seperating it. i can't recall, not enough beer in me yet.

camodown 10-19-2011 07:35 PM

I don't know on the size but your other question yes you don't have to separate the lower ball joint from the knuckle. Just the upper ball joint & tie rod end then you can wiggle the cv shaft our of the knuckle. Then replace the seal.

SteelDirigible 10-19-2011 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by StxDangerRanger (Post 1905515)
off hand, No idea on the nut size.
But i think you can replace the seal without seperating it. i can't recall, not enough beer in me yet.

it's wednesday...

StxDangerRanger 10-19-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by SteelDirigible (Post 1905517)
it's wednesday...

Social drinking man. I'm gonna go to bed around midnight, get up at 5am, and do it all over again.

CowboyBilly9Mile 10-19-2011 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by camodown (Post 1905516)
I don't know on the size but your other question yes you don't have to separate the lower ball joint from the knuckle. Just the upper ball joint & tie rod end then you can wiggle the cv shaft our of the knuckle. Then replace the seal.

Awesome, that's what I was hoping for!

*Any day is a good day for cold beer!!!!!

StxDangerRanger 10-19-2011 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by CowboyBilly9Mile (Post 1905534)
Awesome, that's what I was hoping for!

*Any day is a good day for cold beer!!!!!

or 5.

CowboyBilly9Mile 10-20-2011 12:09 PM

One more question on this, can I get adequate access to do the seal replacement without removing the half shaft from the hub and thus the half shaft itself? The reason I ask is, if I need to remove the half shaft I'll be buying a spindle nut to replace the old one, and I want to have that new nut available. I know, some guys will say it's ok to reuse it, just apply a little locktite blue and call it a day, and it probably is ok, but I know that nut deforms ever so slightly once it's installed and therefore it loses some retention performance. I'm super fussy about the quality of my work and the resulting reliability, as such I'm more than happy to pay the $14 and replace it. I go to highly remote places where I don't feel like walking out and having to deal with hassles.


Originally Posted by StxDangerRanger (Post 1905560)
or 5.

You mean you can actually feel something, anything after five beers? Takes me about twice that; practice makes perfect. :smile:

StxDangerRanger 10-20-2011 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by CowboyBilly9Mile (Post 1905717)
One more question on this, can I get adequate access to do the seal replacement without removing the half shaft from the hub and thus the half shaft itself? The reason I ask is, if I need to remove the half shaft I'll be buying a spindle nut to replace the old one, and I want to have that new nut available. I know, some guys will say it's ok to reuse it, just apply a little locktite blue and call it a day, and it probably is ok, but I know that nut deforms ever so slightly once it's installed and therefore it loses some retention performance. I'm super fussy about the quality of my work and the resulting reliability, as such I'm more than happy to pay the $14 and replace it. I go to highly remote places where I don't feel like walking out and having to deal with hassles.



You mean you can actually feel something, anything after five beers? Takes me about twice that; practice makes perfect. :smile:

I don't know how much room you'll have without taking the half shaft out, but if you can get at it, then i'd say no you don't need to.

5am comes early man, 5 beers is all i can get in before i go to bed on a weekday.

camodown 10-20-2011 06:11 PM

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If you are talking about this seal, just on the passenger side. Then no, the CV shaft has to come out to replace it.

https://www.ranger-forums.com/attach...ine=1319155878

I've reused the the spindle nut multiple times & never had any issues

Masteratarms93 10-20-2011 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by SteelDirigible (Post 1905517)
it's wednesday...

LOL like that matters....

SteelDirigible 10-20-2011 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Masteratarms93 (Post 1905873)
LOL like that matters....

hey if i want a beer i can go buy a case..... can you?

StxDangerRanger 10-20-2011 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by SteelDirigible (Post 1905876)
hey if i want a beer i can go buy a case..... can you?

They know me by name at the liqour store..... good or bad? you decide.

SteelDirigible 10-20-2011 08:31 PM

Bad haha you need to hit up the rite aid. Liquor stores are too expensive. Not to go off topic or anything...

StxDangerRanger 10-20-2011 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by SteelDirigible (Post 1905883)
Bad haha you need to hit up the rite aid. Liquor stores are too expensive. Not to go off topic or anything...

We've had this disucssion many times (Sober me, Drunk me, Fiance) We think I have a problem. But we're not too sure, so we need to investigate further.

SteelDirigible 10-20-2011 08:36 PM

Let's migrate to the food thread...

CowboyBilly9Mile 10-20-2011 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by camodown (Post 1905827)
If you are talking about this seal, just on the passenger side. Then no, the CV shaft has to come out to replace it.

https://www.ranger-forums.com/attach...ine=1319155878

I've reused the the spindle nut multiple times & never had any issues

Yup, that's the seal; I kinda figured there wouldn't be enough room to work without pulling it. No biggie though. Thanks for the reply!

Masteratarms93 10-21-2011 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by SteelDirigible (Post 1905876)
hey if i want a beer i can go buy a case..... can you?

Yeah, there are 3 places within 5 miles of me that I can walk into and by a case of beer no questions asked.

And the fact that I'll have a military ID in like 2 months will make it that much easier lol.

klc317 10-21-2011 12:44 PM

If you're talking about the pinion nut (where the driveshaft goes in) it's 1 1/8". I know this cause I replaced my pinion seal last week but didn't have a big enough socket to tap it in evenly and bent/warped it slightly so it leaked worse. Just got in a few minutes ago after getting the right tool, a new seal, and doing it correctly...lol. It takes a serious impact wrench to get the nut loose and a big cheater bar to get it set back exactly where it needs to be.

CowboyBilly9Mile 10-24-2011 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by klc317 (Post 1906101)
If you're talking about the pinion nut (where the driveshaft goes in) it's 1 1/8". I know this cause I replaced my pinion seal last week but didn't have a big enough socket to tap it in evenly and bent/warped it slightly so it leaked worse. Just got in a few minutes ago after getting the right tool, a new seal, and doing it correctly...lol. It takes a serious impact wrench to get the nut loose and a big cheater bar to get it set back exactly where it needs to be.

That's the one, and I got the socket, breaker bar, and I'll make the tool out of flat bar to keep it from turning when I loosen the nut . Thanks!


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