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99ranger4x4 11-20-2006 09:17 AM

Dana 35 quick Q
 
i have my front diff currently laying in the garage, the truck on jack stands and the CV shafts wrapped in ziploc bags...
that was a pain.. but not too bad
one quick question though..

i want to throw new gears. 4.56 in the front while i have it off so i dont have to go through w/ that whole deal again w/ dropping it.. so i was looking around for the gears, and i found some. but whats to know about the reverse cut gears? i have seen on here that the front D35 is a regular cut gear, but in BIG letters on the pumpkin, it says REVERSE....
whats the verdict on that?... and can i drive my truck w/ no front diff? or do i need to put it back in?

Thanks
-Matt


EDIT: im also going to have to pull the CV shafts if i drive w/o a diff, whats the trick to those?

zabeard 11-20-2006 09:29 AM

if you pull the CVs to drive it you will ruin the boots on the CVs. so that is a no go. maybe it can be done without any CVs? but then again you will get dirt in the hub.

Our diffs are a Standard Cut normal rotation D35, same as the rear of a Jeep with a D35.

I'm not sure what that "REVERSE" means on the side ? ? :shrug:

SuperGildo@RRP 11-20-2006 09:43 AM

you can run without the front diff BUT, BE SURE TO PUT THE CV STUBS BACK INTO THE HUBS.

the hubs are press fit, running without something clamping it, aka holding it together will explode the hub and cause your wheel to fall off.

SuperGildo@RRP 11-20-2006 09:43 AM

Cv Stubs Only, Not The Whole Cv. Dont Not Run Without Them In, Ever!!

ryanrebel125 11-20-2006 09:45 AM

before my sas i ran no front diff or cv axles for 4 or 5 months. granted the wheel bearings wernt but 6 months old at that point.

lifted97ranger 11-20-2006 09:47 AM

i wouldn't run without a front diff...........you have standard cut gears like beard said above...

Sad_Savant 11-20-2006 09:48 AM

reverse cut means the gears are cut in a reverse wear pattern from the rear gears...trust me, if you put standard cut gears in they won't work, or if they do, they won't work long

SuperGildo@RRP 11-20-2006 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
i wouldn't run without a front diff

hes not asking if you want to, hes asking if its okay. Its perfectly fine as long as you secure the wheel hubs...

SuperGildo@RRP 11-20-2006 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by ryanrebel125
before my sas i ran no front diff or cv axles for 4 or 5 months. granted the wheel bearings wernt but 6 months old at that point.

I ran for two days and lost a wheel like that. thank god I wasnt on the highway...

lifted97ranger 11-20-2006 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
reverse cut means the gears are cut in a reverse wear pattern from the rear gears...trust me, if you put standard cut gears in they won't work, or if they do, they won't work long

ummmmmm i do believe you are WRONG! the Dana 35's in the '98+ Rangers had standard rotation gears.....the '97 and older Dana 35's had the reverse rotation gears..........

next time please do a search before you post the wrong info....

Sad_Savant 11-20-2006 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
ummmmmm i do believe you are WRONG! the Dana 35's in the '98+ Rangers had standard rotation gears.....the '97 and older Dana 35's had the reverse rotation gears..........

next time please do a search before you post the wrong info....


well excuse the hell out of me, cuz obviously this conversation meant enough to you get pissy with me...i apologize if i was wrong...but out of curiosity, where did you get your infallible information from?

lifted97ranger 11-20-2006 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
well excuse the hell out of me, cuz obviously this conversation meant enough to you get pissy with me...i apologize if i was wrong...but out of curiosity, where did you get your infallible information from?

reverse rotation:
http://www.precisiongear.com/dana35r.htm

standard rotation:
http://www.precisiongear.com/dana35.htm

and i also get info from other members...........

zabeard 11-20-2006 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Sad_Savant
well excuse the hell out of me, cuz obviously this conversation meant enough to you get pissy with me...i apologize if i was wrong...but out of curiosity, where did you get your infallible information from?

Rob i don't think he was getting pissy.

and yes it is a standard rotation, if it wasn't then i would have some serious issues in the front diff of my truck!

Sad_Savant 11-20-2006 10:39 AM

i stand corrected! and i apologize if i misinterpreted your comment, maybe it's me...i've been over here way too long! so once again i am sorry

Big04Ranger 11-20-2006 02:27 PM

iv done gears in the front of my ranger and zabeards... both are STANDARD CUT D35(98+).... wow iv even done lifted97ranger's front gears.. he is REVERSE CUT D35(97 and previous)



for every1s info.. low pinion on the front diff uses STANDARD CUT and high pinion uses REVERSE CUT

and the proper terms is CUT not ROTATION.. they all rotate the same direction

lifted97ranger 11-20-2006 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Big04Ranger
iv done gears in the front of my ranger and zabeards... both are STANDARD CUT D35(98+).... wow iv even done lifted97ranger's front gears.. he is REVERSE CUT D35(97 and previous)



for every1s info.. low pinion on the front diff uses STANDARD CUT and high pinion uses REVERSE CUT

and the proper terms is CUT not ROTATION.. they all rotate the same direction

are you getting pissy! lol... :footinmou

i thought the HP dana 44's like you have were reverse CUT! :439:

Big04Ranger 11-20-2006 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
are you getting pissy! lol... :footinmou

i thought the HP dana 44's like you have were reverse CUT! :439:


they are... hehe

RanJerEDGE 11-20-2006 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
ummmmmm i do believe you are WRONG! the Dana 35's in the '98+ Rangers had standard rotation gears.....the '97 and older Dana 35's had the reverse rotation gears..........

next time please do a search before you post the wrong info....


I find that VERY ironic that you would jump on him for that

remember this post?

https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...&highlight=cab

relax, no need for that harsh remark Maurice

zabeard 11-20-2006 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Big04Ranger
iv done gears in the front of my ranger and zabeards... both are STANDARD CUT D35(98+).... wow iv even done lifted97ranger's front gears.. he is REVERSE CUT D35(97 and previous)



for every1s info.. low pinion on the front diff uses STANDARD CUT and high pinion uses REVERSE CUT

and the proper terms is CUT not ROTATION.. they all rotate the same direction

since we are on the subject what are those 4.88s you have laying in the garage? standard cut or reverse?

Big04Ranger 11-20-2006 08:26 PM

standard cut D30... i got to thinkin.. it would be far cheaper to just buy 456 for the front of it instead of buyin my 488s and then buyin 488s for the rear, as my rear 488s prob wont be aval till next summer somtime

zabeard 11-20-2006 09:10 PM

yea i thought about that too on the way home.

decisions! lol

lifted97ranger 11-20-2006 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by RanJerEDGE
I find that VERY ironic that you would jump on him for that

remember this post?

https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...&highlight=cab

relax, no need for that harsh remark Maurice

i wasn't jumping on him for nothing.....just setting it straight....as i was sit straight in that post.....and i did a search in that post to see if what i thought was correct and didn't find anything to prove me wrong........but if he would have searched he would have found the info on the forum with no problem........


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