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If you pick one tire off the ground the other one will spin all day. When they get weak they will start acting more like an open diff.
Not true, mine still works great and I have 50k on it.
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Not true, mine still works great and I have 50k on it.
Yes true. I can one tire fire my truck when I turn sharply when before it would swing the back end out. The clutch packs wear down over time and the springs get weak.
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Ok once again thanks guys!
I only play in mud a few times a month so its not super important that i have a locked rear but if the price is right why not.
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Yes true. I can one tire fire my truck when I turn sharply when before it would swing the back end out. The clutch packs wear down over time and the springs get weak.
Just because yours does doesn't mean its true for every single one out there.
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Yes true. I can one tire fire my truck when I turn sharply. The clutch packs wear down over time and the springs get weak.
Since your on the topic of one tire fires, say on a rainy day when the roads are wet when i make a left turn in my truck and punch it i can get it to slide, but if i make a right turn and punch it only the right rear wheel spins. does this happen with an open diff?
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Just because yours does doesn't mean its true for every single one out there.
Its a clutch. Clutches wear out over time just like transmission clutches. Kind of the same way that if you own a Auburn locker you need to rebuild it about once a year because the clutches wear out.
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ya eventually the clutch packs in the LS will either go out, or at the least need to be serviced.


also w/ the LS rearend.. click in the e-brake like 2 or 3 clicks.. that puts presure on i think its the C-clip in the LS and that will lock up the rear wheels also..


somebody correct me if im wrong if its the C-clip.. might be somthing else
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Since your on the topic of one tire fires, say on a rainy day when the roads are wet when i make a left turn in my truck and punch it i can get it to slide, but if i make a right turn and punch it only the right rear wheel spins. does this happen with an open diff?
An open diff will spin whatever wheel has the least resistance. So if one tire is on the road and the other is in ice then the one in ice will spin all day. If you say you can slide it turning one way but not the other that could be cause by a number of things.
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is there a way to find out what is in your diff? im almost possitive its an 8.8 with 4.10's
and i couldnt find anything on the inside of the door that would tell me
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There is no sticker on the inside door frame?

There is also a diff tag that you can look at.
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By simply dividing the ring gear tooth count by the pinion gear tooth count, the ratio is determined. For example, if we divide a ring gear with 41 teeth by a pinion gear with 10 teeth we find that the gear ratio is 4.10:1 (41/10 = 4.10).
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There is a yello and white(?) sticker on the inside of the door that tells me misc. info on the truck such as stock tires and that but nothing about the axle.
And i did find a metal tag that was on on one of the bolts that hold the diff cover on that said 410 88 which is what leads me to believe its an 8.8 with 4.10's
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ya deff. a 8.8 w/4.10 open
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Sounds like a 4.10 8.8 non LS.

Look at the sticker again:

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is there any way to find out if its open or ls?
im positive it is open but just from what whippersnapper said about the clutches wearing in them. its an 05 to so thats why im wondering if it could have warn down.
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Thanks whipper thats a huge help haha it says the axle is a 97 on my truck so its a non ls
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One last question, are the front diffs on ifs rangers all open or can you get them with a ls?
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Front was always open. No one makes a L/S and only one company makes a locker. That company is Aussie. Richmond Gear/Powertrax might make one but I'm not sure.
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Ok just always wondered that, but thanks again for all the help
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One last question, are the front diffs on ifs rangers all open or can you get them with a ls?
No L/S's stock, but you can get aftermarket lockers. Production L/S's don't exist for the front.
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as far as i know.. trac-lok makes a L/S for the IFS ranger front end.

i could be wrong but powertrax discontinued there l/s.

look around.. on the 05 it should be a normal cut axle.. the older TTB setups were reverse cut.. just do some looking im sure u'll find an L/S for th IFS.

just dont stick a full locker up-front.. u'll be snapping **** left n right
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I believe so. But then again, I have had a friend stand me down that no one makes a true "locker" that locks the rearend 100% of the time. He says that every locker locks and unlocks.
a selectable locker will be locked up solid, like a spool when its turned on, then an open diff when its off.. no ratcheting

a "locker" will ratchet around turns as long as your not applying any power to it

don't bother with an LS if you plan on doing much more than a few burn outs.. a few people have good luck with them off road but for the most part they suck a big one. I've been in SOOO many situations where *had* the posi unit actually locked up i would have made the obsticle hands down.. it always leaves me hanging when the only tire with traction won't turn. countless fawkin times.

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ya almost every locker, unlocks.. just w/e u do if ur truck is a DD dont weld the gears.. just buy either a LS or get somthing along the lines of a ARB air locker. or look at a detroit.. they are pretty good also..

ya forgot about a spool.. but like as said above.. just like welding the gears, not to good for on road use.
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weld or spool it.. ain't gotta worry about the mechanical junk working or not.

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Interesting.. when we put a lunchbox in my wifes jeep, it didnt unlock while turning.. thing Never unlocked.
my aussie in the front did that, when i finally pulled it and looked at it you could tell one of the pins had slipped out so the 2 halves couldn't come together and ratchet.. as Razor said, tolerances were probably too tight.

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All 'lockers' unlock. A differential that never unlocks is a spool, or mini-spool.
or in my case, "the orb of traction" aka a giant hunk of steel.

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Not true, mine still works great and I have 50k on it.
as stated above, a few people have good luck.. if your serious about wheelin then a limited slip is a joke.

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Since your on the topic of one tire fires, say on a rainy day when the roads are wet when i make a left turn in my truck and punch it i can get it to slide, but if i make a right turn and punch it only the right rear wheel spins. does this happen with an open diff?
open or posi or l/s.

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just dont stick a full locker up-front.. u'll be snapping **** left n right
lock the front, dont be scurred.. just gotta get good at changing cv shafts if your foots as heavy as mine. you can get an Aussie locker for the front.
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just dont stick a full locker up-front.. u'll be snapping **** left n right

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lock the front, dont be scurred.. just gotta get good at changing cv shafts if your foots as heavy as mine. you can get an Aussie locker for the front.
Lock the front no doubt. HUGE difference in traction. I haven't snapped a CV yet in mine on 35s. I mean I'm no Matt but I'm not afraid to push my truck when I take it out.....
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haha

yea yea yea.. a few im not sure how they broke, a could i was being plain stupid.. aka 4 wheel burn outs on ice in parking lots. a few were like, this..mightttt...... POP! ha

I was in awe at the amount that front locker helped, its pretty amazing.
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trent- It was 2 pairs of gears, install kit, trac-lok and smoe other misc. stuff, and labor. and it was all priced in euros.. so, natrually its going to cost WAY more than if it was in Dollars, but nothing we could do since we are in germany
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