Going from 33's to 35's.. gearing?
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Going from 33's to 35's.. gearing?
Lifting my truck more soon, but i was thinkign 33's would look pretty silly so i was gunna throw on 35's. My question is how would the stock 4.10's hold up, would it be pretty harsh on the tranny? ALso curious if i did go to the 4.56's i need to do both front and back right? and will this help me in any way?
Just wondering bout the pros and cons to each im pretty new to drivetrain crap.
Just wondering bout the pros and cons to each im pretty new to drivetrain crap.
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Ryan....
It's 'okay'. At least you've got 4.10's already. Definately not good, yet definately not bad. ALOT of folks run 4.10's and 35's.....I honestly hate it. You'll be ALOT happier if you were to gear it. And just as I say to almost anyone considering 35's: once you start getting into 35's, you really should consider swapping the gearing.
It's 'okay'. At least you've got 4.10's already. Definately not good, yet definately not bad. ALOT of folks run 4.10's and 35's.....I honestly hate it. You'll be ALOT happier if you were to gear it. And just as I say to almost anyone considering 35's: once you start getting into 35's, you really should consider swapping the gearing.
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Prices vary.....when I was calling around, I was quoted $900-1500 US at shops....drive in, drive out. Meaning you literally drive it in, then drive it home.
But the guy I found literally a mile from the house charged $150 labor for loose axles. Got my Yukons online for less than $400, bringing my gear swap to $700. He evidently likes me or soemthing because a buddy of mine did the same thing and he was charged 800. lol.
You've got Randy's Ring and Pinion in Everett? I htink? LiftKitRanger up there in abouts Seattle had his done there and it ran him about $1200. Might give them a ring or see if North Shore does gears.
I've offered it to Jesse....you give me your truck for a week and about $800 American, I'll get your gears done, DD it to break 'em in, and they'll be save to make the 4hr trek.
But the guy I found literally a mile from the house charged $150 labor for loose axles. Got my Yukons online for less than $400, bringing my gear swap to $700. He evidently likes me or soemthing because a buddy of mine did the same thing and he was charged 800. lol.
You've got Randy's Ring and Pinion in Everett? I htink? LiftKitRanger up there in abouts Seattle had his done there and it ran him about $1200. Might give them a ring or see if North Shore does gears.
I've offered it to Jesse....you give me your truck for a week and about $800 American, I'll get your gears done, DD it to break 'em in, and they'll be save to make the 4hr trek.
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I just put on 33s and the 4.10 gearing $ucks.
4.30s should be minimum for 33s, 4.56s minimum for 35.
If you started with 31” tires and go to 35” tire the ratio of change is 1.13.
Multiply this time 4.10 and get something like 4.63.
The choices according to the math are 1) 4.56s will be good for DD and 2) 4.88s for Off-Roading.
Since you have 33s then the ratio is less, 1.06 x 4.10 = 4.34.
If you want to keep the 33”/4,10 performance then 4.30 would be OK but if you want a little more kick in the pant feel then 4.56 or 4.88 are order.
4.30s should be minimum for 33s, 4.56s minimum for 35.
If you started with 31” tires and go to 35” tire the ratio of change is 1.13.
Multiply this time 4.10 and get something like 4.63.
The choices according to the math are 1) 4.56s will be good for DD and 2) 4.88s for Off-Roading.
Since you have 33s then the ratio is less, 1.06 x 4.10 = 4.34.
If you want to keep the 33”/4,10 performance then 4.30 would be OK but if you want a little more kick in the pant feel then 4.56 or 4.88 are order.
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Alright thanks, i personally dont seem to mind my 4.10's with my 33's.. i still killed my buddys stock dakota with a 4.7L V8 in it lol but then again i didnt buy this truck to race. If i gear differently will that help with gas mileage too? mine dropped significantly after the lift and 33's were on. But yes im looking to do 35's so im looking for the best gear set for those. so 4.88s would be golden? i do more daily driving than offroading (mostly only weekends i take the truck in the bush) so i need something that will help with gas mileage.
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Yes re-gearing will help the gas milage some, but the biggest thing is in the feel of the truck it will feel like a new truck. You have to remember that the added weight of the 35s will take away some gas milage so everything put together you should come back close to OEM with the 4.56/35.
IF you do mostly DD and IF you don’t mind the 33/4.10 gearing setup, then the 4.56’s will probably do. 4.88 for more kick in the pants feel.
IF you do mostly DD and IF you don’t mind the 33/4.10 gearing setup, then the 4.56’s will probably do. 4.88 for more kick in the pants feel.
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Why spend a ton of money to re-gear and make it feel like stock again? That is why.
I don't see any reason spending that kind of money and not ending up with lower gearing advantage for off roading, towing, etc.
Also keep in mind that you had a 4.0L OHV which is entirely different than the newer SOHC 4.0L. The SOHC needs higher RPMs than the OHV to work well.
I don't see any reason spending that kind of money and not ending up with lower gearing advantage for off roading, towing, etc.
Also keep in mind that you had a 4.0L OHV which is entirely different than the newer SOHC 4.0L. The SOHC needs higher RPMs than the OHV to work well.
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whats the answer to this question lol i dont wanan buy the wrong gears. i have a 2008 FX4 and i believe the diff tag read 4.10's.. so will the 4.88s work or what
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YUP! You'll need a new carrier because the center block that keeps the axle shafts pushed outward requires WAYYYY too much grinding of the 4.88 ring gear. You'll have like 6-7 teeth ground down like 50% and into the mesh pattern. aka...not acceptable grinding. I have personal experience with this....as it's the only reason I have an Aussie in the truck now(open carrier).