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Old Apr 1, 2010
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bump, I seem to enjoy spamming my own thread.

Still need an answer though
 
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Old Apr 1, 2010
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The case is from a 90 BII?? Ranger envy is a tard, the link he posted clearly shows its a 1354. And i would just go with the stock shaft off an early model truck to stick with the double cardan joint setup. But if you don't want to do that, Shane or TrePaul will post up here what you can do....but i'd just stick with the double cardan joint (better than your current stock driveshaft).


Originally Posted by Ranger_Envy
If it came out of a BII then by going off of this tech page Ford Ranger Transfer Cases
it's a 1350. I wouldn't even mess with it. Take it back and get an explorer case and then the front driveshaft with it.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2010
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imo, go back to the jy u got the tc from, and get the driveshaft that was on THAT truck, it is a better shaft, like bob said, i am not 100% sure if the front end will bolt up, and i'm not very familiar with the front diffs on rangers, but if it's like the rear diffs on all the fords i have worked on, you should be able to unbolt the yoke from the diff, and put the new (jy) one on... if this doesn't work, take your shaft, and the new (jy) one to a driveline store, and get them to put the proper yoke on the new shaft, this can be done, of course, at the same time as the driveshaft is lengthened or shortened, IF they are not the exact same length... i don't know if they are the same length or not...
 
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Old Apr 2, 2010
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I'll ask him if he has the driveshaft from that truck

BUT if he doesn't what years would I be looking for?

So I'm guessing these earlier driveshafts are the same length as mine?
 

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i can't answer that question... tape measure buddy!
 
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Old Apr 2, 2010
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Also Grant will your bracket still work with this t-case and its linkage?
 
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Originally Posted by --weezl--
i can't answer that question... tape measure buddy!
I live 30 min from the jy and the only time I'm going to town today is to either take the t-case back or get the correct driveshaft.

I just need to know whether or not I can use this t-case, and exactly what driveshaft I need to make it work.

OR do you guys think I should just wait till a proper 1354M comes around and get it?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2010
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Originally Posted by Dangerranger01
The case is from a 90 BII?? Ranger envy is a tard, the link he posted clearly shows its a 1354. And i would just go with the stock shaft off an early model truck to stick with the double cardan joint setup. But if you don't want to do that, Shane or TrePaul will post up here what you can do....but i'd just stick with the double cardan joint (better than your current stock driveshaft).
Umm it says only an electric shift 1354 was available in 1990 for the BII. I assume he knows the difference between electric and manual shift. So if the chart is correct then its probably a pre 1990 truck with a 1350 manual shift. You know its fairly common for yards to have no clue what year the vehicle is that they're selling parts off of.
 

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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
I live 30 min from the jy and the only time I'm going to town today is to either take the t-case back or get the correct driveshaft.

I just need to know whether or not I can use this t-case, and exactly what driveshaft I need to make it work.

OR do you guys think I should just wait till a proper 1354M comes around and get it?
I think if you want to make that 1350 work then I'm sure you can make it work. As modifying the driveshaft to work, it can be done. I'd bet yokes can be changed but if they can't any driveline shop should be able to build you shafts that'll work. That would make this a bit more expensive of a swap. Dangerrangers bracket bolts to the tranny/t-case bolts so as long as the bolt pattern is the same on the two cases then it should work, I'm almost sure the pattern is the same if not you're in big trouble because the T-case will never bolt up to the tranny. I've seen guys on here with 1350's swapped into their newer Ranger so I know it can be done. I personally would just get a 1354M so you know whats involved and you have a stronger T-case out of the deal.
 

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I appreciate all the advice. Since the salvage yard owner is offering all my money back I will just return the t-case. I'll tell him exactly what years Ranger and Expos I'm looking for with manual shift.

Hopefully if I tell him exactly what to look for I will eventually get what I need.

Swapping a proper t-case will be simpler anyway.
 
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dude, post a picture of your case and i'll tell you if its a 1354 or 1350.
Does it have bolt on shafts or slip on shafts?
 
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Why would you need that t-case linkage bracket if you have an auto tranny? All the autos already have the manual linkage bosses on the tailhousing.
 
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Originally Posted by RazorsEDGE
Why would you need that t-case linkage bracket if you have an auto tranny? All the autos already have the manual linkage bosses on the tailhousing.
I must of missed where it said he was an Auto, but man that hurts.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2010
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Yeah, post up a pic. That'll answer it all. The front output is conical looking then the yoke attaches to that. The cone looks like it bolts on. If that's what it looks like, then it's a 1350. If the front output looks to be flat and cast with the case, then it's a 1354.

1350m



1354m



Sorry for the small pics, but that's all I found when I quickly searched.... What does your case look like?
 
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Using a 1354M from an early Explorer or BII is plenty possible. I have one in my truck. Use a front driveshaft from a 95-97 Explorer and everything will bolt up. Plus it's a double cardan style so if you ever decided to do a Superlift you wouldn't have to buy their driveshaft.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010
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Well I already returned it, yesterday was the last day to return it and get my money back and I wasn't getting a straight answer.

Mine looked like the second pic.

So I could have just got a driveshaft from an 95-97 Expo?

I thought Grant made those brackets for people to bolt up those t-cases to auto tranny's?

That t-case will probably be there for a while, so if I can use it, I'll just go back and get it.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2010
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
So I could have just got a driveshaft from an 95-97 Expo?
The "95~97 Expo" range cannot be correct because Ford made the changeover to the later CV style front shaft during that time.

Explorer got the newer cup style CV in 1997. 96-back were double cardan CV.

Ranger lagged behind a year because it didn't get switched to the 2nd generation Explorer front suspension until 1998. So, 1998 and newer Rangers got the newer cup style CV. 97-back were double cardan CV.
 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge

I thought Grant made those brackets for people to bolt up those t-cases to auto tranny's?

I suppose you could use it but whats the point. All autos already have the linkage bosses. Its the 2001+ MANUAL transmissions that would need a new extension housing or a bracket of some sort.


Originally Posted by rwenzing
The "95~97 Expo" range cannot be correct because Ford made the changeover to the later CV style front shaft during that time.

Explorer got the newer cup style CV in 1997. 96-back were double cardan CV.

Ranger lagged behind a year because it didn't get switched to the 2nd generation Explorer front suspension until 1998. So, 1998 and newer Rangers got the newer cup style CV. 97-back were double cardan CV.
Yes Bob is right, the only shaft that would bolt up to a double cardan 1354 is the 95 and 96 explorer shafts.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2010
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Originally Posted by RazorsEDGE
I suppose you could use it but whats the point. All autos already have the linkage bosses. Its the 2001+ MANUAL transmissions that would need a new extension housing or a bracket of some sort.
Alright well I guess I don't need that linkage bracket, I thought i did.
 
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You were right Ryan, I don't need the bracket.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2010
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
Well I already returned it, yesterday was the last day to return it and get my money back and I wasn't getting a straight answer.

Mine looked like the second pic.

So I could have just got a driveshaft from an 95-97 Expo?

I thought Grant made those brackets for people to bolt up those t-cases to auto tranny's?

That t-case will probably be there for a while, so if I can use it, I'll just go back and get it.
The 95-97 expo fronts were the right length... The ones that will need shortening that are easier to find are the 92-97 D35 TTB front shafts... Like the one I got from Shane.
 
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