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Locker options

So im wanting to get a locker after i lift...my question is what options do i have as far as lockers...i got a 3.0 auto 8.8 w/4.10's...any input is greatly appreciated
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Is it the stock 8.8? if so its a 28 spline axle and you have several locker choices. are you already limited slip, or is the truck an open? The big question is how big is the budget?

On the cheaper side you can do a Richmond gear powertrax locker which you can do yourself with using the stock carrier. the locker has an application for either the Limited slip or the open (which matters because with this locker you keep the stock carrier) it is an automatic locker, so there are no buttons to select, it will work on its own and dis-engage when going around a corner (unless provoked with the throttle) The Powertrax will run you back about 350-$420 depending on where you get it from. The up side is that you can do this locker easily by yourself and a friend in an afternoon with less than mechanic skill required. On the down side, it has been pointed out to be not as sturdy as some other options, and there have been some negative posts i have run into on different forums. but then again, there are very few things in life that are 100% satisfaction.

Next option would be to replace the carrier with a Detroit locker. The Detroit is an automatic locker, like the Powertrax, so no buttons. A Detroit will set you back 600-650. The positive side is that the Detroit is a beast for an automatic locker, and has the reputation of being "THE" locker for wheeling. On the downside is that if you are not so great with backlash or are not comfortable with doing it, you will need to get the locker put in at a shop "$".

Then you have selectable lockers to think about:

My favorite of the bunch is the Auburn gear ECTED locker. Then nice thing about this selectable locker, is that when the locker is disengaged, it operates like a limited slip rather than a full open like other selectable lockers. a nice feature in my opinion. The ECTED locker will set you back $700+ which i dislike however..lol

Another selectable locker available for your truck is the Eaton E-locker. The E-locker is a 100% open or 100% locked selectable locker which (as the name imply s) uses and electrical switch to activate.
The E-locker will set you back 800-900 (not an economy locker, but Eaton does not build junk either)

and the alternative to these two Selectable lockers, is the ARB air locker. Like the Eaton E-locker, the ARB is a 100% on or 100%off locker, and like the name imply s, the ARB uses Air pressure to trigger the locking mechanism for the axle. An ARB locker will run you back 700-800. The downside is that you will need to install an on-board air compressor in order to lock your axle.
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Arb discontinued the air locker for the 28 spline.

If you have a manual trans I would advise against an auto locker like the Detroit and lock right, and go for the elocker if they have an application for the 28 spline.
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Arb discontinued the air locker for the 28 spline.

If you have a manual trans I would advise against an auto locker like the Detroit and lock right, and go for the elocker if they have an application for the 28 spline.
Haha, ya. i got off work, and got right on. I saw this post so i wrote a novel on the diffrent lockers i had seen used, and thought to myself...hey this should be a sticky! (smacks forehead) sweet, i could have just posted the sticky.

But ya, as pointed out, the ARB is done... but, hey here is the link to the E-locker for a 28 spline 8.8 she runs $913

Eaton Torque Control Products 19685-010 - Eaton Electronic ELocker Differentials - Overview - SummitRacing.com

maybe i can somewhat redeem myself lol
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ya its a stock open 8.8....ya see i really need the locker for wheelin every now and then taking the boat to the lake and having a actual 2wd instead of a 1wd is always a plus,but from what im reading the some lockers only lock when your a WOT...or am i interpreting that wrong?

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ya its a stock open 8.8....ya see i really need the locker for wheelin every now and then taking the boat to the lake and having a actual 2wd instead of a 1wd is always a plus,but from what im reading the some lockers only lock when your a WOT...or am i interpreting that wrong?
That's wrong.
E-locker is locked when you flip a switch.
The Detroit and Lock-Right are locked when you are on the throttle. They unlock during turning when you are coasting or light on the throttle. Under heavy throttle both tires turn the same speed and the tires will chirp around a tight corner. You learn how much throttle to use after a while. I had an Aussie locker (like the lock right) in my sport trac and have a detroit in my f150, and can drive around the neighborhood and parking lots without chirping tires if I don't want to.
They will increase traction a lot but also increase tire wear some, and some people don't like the handling changes. An autolocker will cause some understeer when hard on the throttle, but can cause oversteer in wet/slick conditions when you spin both rear tires.
The e-locker is great (have one in my front axle) because there are no negative characteristics until you flip the switch, and you only lock it when needed. But it is expensive.
A good limited slip (eaton truetrac) will help a lot in low traction situations without the bad street habits of an automatic locker.
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So i think i might be leaning towards Lock Right locker since its the least expensive and should get the job done and i can use the stock carrier(right?)...has anyone had any experience with it...goods bads likes dislikes ect??
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Yep. stock carrier stays in for the install. I actually pursued getting a Powertrax up till i talked with some guys with manuals who all steered me away (as noted above) because gear transition in a manual tends to lead to harsh characteristics with an auto locker.

Now with you having an automatic, the auto locker will not be so grumpy. From what i have researched through my own pursuit for the lock-right, is that (as noted above) you re-learn how to drive your truck with the auto locker, and then go from there. from what i understand most of the re-learning you will need to do is just in the right foot. Tight corners will no longer be a "goose and go" situation, because it will cause your locker to engage and you will be dealing with some tire complaints. But to sum it all up they are pretty easy to re-learn and the traits mostly involve the accelerator.
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Ryan has it about right. However you can still "goose and go" and I do it all the time. It is just going to wear the tires a little quicker. There isn't a lot of weight on the back of the ranger so it isn't a big deal anyway if you ask me.
You do learn to drive it a little differently most of the time though. If I'm making a left turn from a stop light, I will accelerate fairly quickly in a straight line, then let off a little while I make the turn, and get back into the throttle as I straighten out.
I haven't had the lock-right, but I've had the aussie locker (which is almost exactly the same), and the detroit which functions nearly the same. I have also driven Jeeps with the lock-right, they all work the same.

If you have an open carrier (no limited slip) then yes, it will install in the stock carrier, no complicated gear setup or anything. It isn't harder than changing brakes or anything like that, just follow the instructions.
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i can vouch for the lock right locker. i just got it installed in my truck and i love it! and as stated above, with a little bit of a mechanical background, you can install it yourself
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Any 2wd's have a powertrax?? or for yall 4wds how is it in the mud when your just in 2wd...decent??
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Any 2wd's have a powertrax?? or for yall 4wds how is it in the mud when your just in 2wd...decent??
ive got 4x4, and when im in 2 wheel with the locker its night and day. i can go through a **** ton more than i could when i had an open diff. get it!!!
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Mud is mud, 2wd and mud sucks, but pretty much everything is 10x better with a locker.
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i cannot say for a true locker, i dont run one yet. But what i will say is the difference just between a Limited slip and an open axle is pretty big when you leave the pavement. The factory unit in my truck isnt the best form of limited slip available, but when you run side-by-side with an open axle in 2wd, or 4wd, the difference is pretty noticeable. i can consistently find myself running 2wd long after friends in the open axles have to switch to 4wd, and its really impressive the to feel the difference if you step into one truck from the other. And this is with a relatively crappy stock limited slip, the locker is going to give you a considerable amount more traction power, and is even more important if you ever get the rear end flexed out. Open and limited slip give up when weight and or traction is given up on one side of the axle, a locker keeps on fighting even if one of your tires come off the ground. So to sum it up...i believe it will make a very large difference.
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Ya im def gonna get it Im just trying to get as much input about it before i can actually feel it for myself but first things first i gotta put the lift and tires on then the locker to tie it all together
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I installed a Powertrax No Slip in my Ranger. It's sweet. I didn't have to relearn how to drive. I guess it could chew up tires faster, but hell, half the time you get a one wheel peel with a open diff around a corner, so I don't see the big deal. It doesn't pop or make other noises. The extra traction is nice in the winter, but be careful on the highway.
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why you say be careful on the highway??
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well for what it matters im loving my detroit. ya it chirps when you throttle it around hard turns.....keeps you from driving like an Ahole imo haha works AWSOME offroad......well both of my detroits work awsome offroad haha!
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I know this is pricey but how about the Auburn "ECTED Locker”. ($630)
Sounds interesting ?
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ya pricey for sure...but now since my wheels and tires are on back order for 6 weeks ima just go ahead and get the locker before the lift so should be good...but i think my mind is set on the lock right
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ya pricey for sure...but now since my wheels and tires are on back order for 6 weeks ima just go ahead and get the locker before the lift so should be good...but i think my mind is set on the lock right
good choice, youll love it!
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