Locker options
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PT 1820 - LOCK RIGHT,LOCKRIGHT,POWERTRAX,LOCKER,DIFFERENTIAL,FORD 8.8 - Lock-Right locker for Ford 8.8 with 28 spline axles. This is a mechanically-operated unit which locks when power is applied, giving full power to both tires, and unlocks when you
DET187C-147A - DETROIT,DETROIT LOCKER,LOCKER,DIFFERENTIAL,FORD 8.8 - Detroit Locker for 87 and newer Ford 8.8 differential with 28 spline axles. For 4.88 and down with grind. The Detroit Locker provides maximum traction for off-road or racing use. Th
AG 545001 - AUBURN,AUBURN GEAR,LIMITED SLIP,POSI,POSITRACTION,DIFFERENTIAL - Auburn Gear ECTED Positraction and Locker for Ford 8.8 with 28 spline axles. The Auburn ECTED is an electrically-operated positraction/locker combination. When the unit is d <-- Not a real locker
DET187C-147A - DETROIT,DETROIT LOCKER,LOCKER,DIFFERENTIAL,FORD 8.8 - Detroit Locker for 87 and newer Ford 8.8 differential with 28 spline axles. For 4.88 and down with grind. The Detroit Locker provides maximum traction for off-road or racing use. Th
AG 545001 - AUBURN,AUBURN GEAR,LIMITED SLIP,POSI,POSITRACTION,DIFFERENTIAL - Auburn Gear ECTED Positraction and Locker for Ford 8.8 with 28 spline axles. The Auburn ECTED is an electrically-operated positraction/locker combination. When the unit is d <-- Not a real locker
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Is it the stock 8.8? if so its a 28 spline axle and you have several locker choices. are you already limited slip, or is the truck an open? The big question is how big is the budget?
On the cheaper side you can do a Richmond gear powertrax locker which you can do yourself with using the stock carrier. the locker has an application for either the Limited slip or the open (which matters because with this locker you keep the stock carrier) it is an automatic locker, so there are no buttons to select, it will work on its own and dis-engage when going around a corner (unless provoked with the throttle) The Powertrax will run you back about 350-$420 depending on where you get it from. The up side is that you can do this locker easily by yourself and a friend in an afternoon with less than mechanic skill required. On the down side, it has been pointed out to be not as sturdy as some other options, and there have been some negative posts i have run into on different forums. but then again, there are very few things in life that are 100% satisfaction.
Next option would be to replace the carrier with a Detroit locker. The Detroit is an automatic locker, like the Powertrax, so no buttons. A Detroit will set you back 600-650. The positive side is that the Detroit is a beast for an automatic locker, and has the reputation of being "THE" locker for wheeling. On the downside is that if you are not so great with backlash or are not comfortable with doing it, you will need to get the locker put in at a shop "$".
Then you have selectable lockers to think about:
My favorite of the bunch is the Auburn gear ECTED locker. Then nice thing about this selectable locker, is that when the locker is disengaged, it operates like a limited slip rather than a full open like other selectable lockers. a nice feature in my opinion. The ECTED locker will set you back $700+ which i dislike however..lol
Another selectable locker available for your truck is the Eaton E-locker. The E-locker is a 100% open or 100% locked selectable locker which (as the name imply s) uses and electrical switch to activate.
The E-locker will set you back 800-900 (not an economy locker, but Eaton does not build junk either)
and the alternative to these two Selectable lockers, is the ARB air locker. Like the Eaton E-locker, the ARB is a 100% on or 100%off locker, and like the name imply s, the ARB uses Air pressure to trigger the locking mechanism for the axle. An ARB locker will run you back 700-800. The downside is that you will need to install an on-board air compressor in order to lock your axle.
On the cheaper side you can do a Richmond gear powertrax locker which you can do yourself with using the stock carrier. the locker has an application for either the Limited slip or the open (which matters because with this locker you keep the stock carrier) it is an automatic locker, so there are no buttons to select, it will work on its own and dis-engage when going around a corner (unless provoked with the throttle) The Powertrax will run you back about 350-$420 depending on where you get it from. The up side is that you can do this locker easily by yourself and a friend in an afternoon with less than mechanic skill required. On the down side, it has been pointed out to be not as sturdy as some other options, and there have been some negative posts i have run into on different forums. but then again, there are very few things in life that are 100% satisfaction.
Next option would be to replace the carrier with a Detroit locker. The Detroit is an automatic locker, like the Powertrax, so no buttons. A Detroit will set you back 600-650. The positive side is that the Detroit is a beast for an automatic locker, and has the reputation of being "THE" locker for wheeling. On the downside is that if you are not so great with backlash or are not comfortable with doing it, you will need to get the locker put in at a shop "$".
Then you have selectable lockers to think about:
My favorite of the bunch is the Auburn gear ECTED locker. Then nice thing about this selectable locker, is that when the locker is disengaged, it operates like a limited slip rather than a full open like other selectable lockers. a nice feature in my opinion. The ECTED locker will set you back $700+ which i dislike however..lol
Another selectable locker available for your truck is the Eaton E-locker. The E-locker is a 100% open or 100% locked selectable locker which (as the name imply s) uses and electrical switch to activate.
The E-locker will set you back 800-900 (not an economy locker, but Eaton does not build junk either)
and the alternative to these two Selectable lockers, is the ARB air locker. Like the Eaton E-locker, the ARB is a 100% on or 100%off locker, and like the name imply s, the ARB uses Air pressure to trigger the locking mechanism for the axle. An ARB locker will run you back 700-800. The downside is that you will need to install an on-board air compressor in order to lock your axle.
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But ya, as pointed out, the ARB is done... but, hey here is the link to the E-locker for a 28 spline 8.8 she runs $913
Eaton Torque Control Products 19685-010 - Eaton Electronic ELocker Differentials - Overview - SummitRacing.com
maybe i can somewhat redeem myself lol
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ya its a stock open 8.8....ya see i really need the locker for wheelin every now and then taking the boat to the lake and having a actual 2wd instead of a 1wd is always a plus,but from what im reading the some lockers only lock when your a WOT...or am i interpreting that wrong?
Last edited by motosik831; 05-30-2010 at 06:20 PM.
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ya its a stock open 8.8....ya see i really need the locker for wheelin every now and then taking the boat to the lake and having a actual 2wd instead of a 1wd is always a plus,but from what im reading the some lockers only lock when your a WOT...or am i interpreting that wrong?
E-locker is locked when you flip a switch.
The Detroit and Lock-Right are locked when you are on the throttle. They unlock during turning when you are coasting or light on the throttle. Under heavy throttle both tires turn the same speed and the tires will chirp around a tight corner. You learn how much throttle to use after a while. I had an Aussie locker (like the lock right) in my sport trac and have a detroit in my f150, and can drive around the neighborhood and parking lots without chirping tires if I don't want to.
They will increase traction a lot but also increase tire wear some, and some people don't like the handling changes. An autolocker will cause some understeer when hard on the throttle, but can cause oversteer in wet/slick conditions when you spin both rear tires.
The e-locker is great (have one in my front axle) because there are no negative characteristics until you flip the switch, and you only lock it when needed. But it is expensive.
A good limited slip (eaton truetrac) will help a lot in low traction situations without the bad street habits of an automatic locker.
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Yep. stock carrier stays in for the install. I actually pursued getting a Powertrax up till i talked with some guys with manuals who all steered me away (as noted above) because gear transition in a manual tends to lead to harsh characteristics with an auto locker.
Now with you having an automatic, the auto locker will not be so grumpy. From what i have researched through my own pursuit for the lock-right, is that (as noted above) you re-learn how to drive your truck with the auto locker, and then go from there. from what i understand most of the re-learning you will need to do is just in the right foot. Tight corners will no longer be a "goose and go" situation, because it will cause your locker to engage and you will be dealing with some tire complaints. But to sum it all up they are pretty easy to re-learn and the traits mostly involve the accelerator.
Now with you having an automatic, the auto locker will not be so grumpy. From what i have researched through my own pursuit for the lock-right, is that (as noted above) you re-learn how to drive your truck with the auto locker, and then go from there. from what i understand most of the re-learning you will need to do is just in the right foot. Tight corners will no longer be a "goose and go" situation, because it will cause your locker to engage and you will be dealing with some tire complaints. But to sum it all up they are pretty easy to re-learn and the traits mostly involve the accelerator.
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Ryan has it about right. However you can still "goose and go" and I do it all the time. It is just going to wear the tires a little quicker. There isn't a lot of weight on the back of the ranger so it isn't a big deal anyway if you ask me.
You do learn to drive it a little differently most of the time though. If I'm making a left turn from a stop light, I will accelerate fairly quickly in a straight line, then let off a little while I make the turn, and get back into the throttle as I straighten out.
I haven't had the lock-right, but I've had the aussie locker (which is almost exactly the same), and the detroit which functions nearly the same. I have also driven Jeeps with the lock-right, they all work the same.
If you have an open carrier (no limited slip) then yes, it will install in the stock carrier, no complicated gear setup or anything. It isn't harder than changing brakes or anything like that, just follow the instructions.
You do learn to drive it a little differently most of the time though. If I'm making a left turn from a stop light, I will accelerate fairly quickly in a straight line, then let off a little while I make the turn, and get back into the throttle as I straighten out.
I haven't had the lock-right, but I've had the aussie locker (which is almost exactly the same), and the detroit which functions nearly the same. I have also driven Jeeps with the lock-right, they all work the same.
If you have an open carrier (no limited slip) then yes, it will install in the stock carrier, no complicated gear setup or anything. It isn't harder than changing brakes or anything like that, just follow the instructions.
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i cannot say for a true locker, i dont run one yet. But what i will say is the difference just between a Limited slip and an open axle is pretty big when you leave the pavement. The factory unit in my truck isnt the best form of limited slip available, but when you run side-by-side with an open axle in 2wd, or 4wd, the difference is pretty noticeable. i can consistently find myself running 2wd long after friends in the open axles have to switch to 4wd, and its really impressive the to feel the difference if you step into one truck from the other. And this is with a relatively crappy stock limited slip, the locker is going to give you a considerable amount more traction power, and is even more important if you ever get the rear end flexed out. Open and limited slip give up when weight and or traction is given up on one side of the axle, a locker keeps on fighting even if one of your tires come off the ground. So to sum it up...i believe it will make a very large difference.
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I installed a Powertrax No Slip in my Ranger. It's sweet. I didn't have to relearn how to drive. I guess it could chew up tires faster, but hell, half the time you get a one wheel peel with a open diff around a corner, so I don't see the big deal. It doesn't pop or make other noises. The extra traction is nice in the winter, but be careful on the highway.
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