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ok guys sorry if this is a repost but i could find anything that answered my question. i have a 04 XLT 4x4 8.8 LSD 28 spline. i want something better than the lsd i have now but not something that will skip the tires when i turn in the rear. it there any option other than the arb air locker and the e-locker... what would other option do i have??? also im guessing if your only going to put a locker in the front or back in the beg. you start in the rear and put a locker in front later right???
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I have an Aussie locker in the front and Torsen L/S in the rear and could not be happier. L/S, locker, or selectable locker are your choices for the rear.
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lunchbox lockers would be good for you. you dont have to remove your carrier for instalation. and they only lock when you give it torque.. lock right lockers and aussie lockers work great..

be careful when locking up the front of the ranger ifs because the cv shafts wont be able to take the stress and youll probably snap stuff real quick
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and what is a torsen limited slip????? and a "selectable locker" is like a e-locker or air locker
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and in the lunchbox locker if im flexxed out with one wheel off the ground will the one in the air spin or will they get equal power? sorry im new to this all
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a locker will send 100% of the power to both wheels 100% of the time.


I would rather have a locker up front.
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and what is a torsen limited slip????? and a "selectable locker" is like a e-locker or air locker
Instead of clutches, the Torsen design uses parallel helix gears to keep the torque balanced to each drive wheel.

The "selectable locker" gives the driver direct and immediate control to change from an open diff to a locker, or LSD to locker. What is does depends upon what you buy.
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yea the lunchbox locker look like what i might like. and with that my rear tires wont skip or jump arond corners???
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If you don't want you're tires skipping, you'd better stick with the LS, or get a selectable locker.
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ok that answers it. even a lunckbox or any other locker other than something like a e-locker or air-locker will make the rear skip and stuff around corners
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the lunchbox locker will NOT skip around corners if your NOT using the throttle. it WILL skip around turns if you ARE using the throttle.. they are torque activated so if you gas it they are locked, get the lunchbox front and rear! you wont regret it
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ok and what do they usually cost??? and could i install with basic knowledge???
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Can you use a lunchbox in the L/S housing?
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Can you use a lunchbox in the L/S housing?


Yes, the No Slip at least.
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You don't want a lunchbox if you don't wheel it much. I see 5spd in your signature....you won't like it much at all. Takes some real getting used to and you can't just let anyone drive the truck after it's installed. Takes a training course! lol.

I've got a lunchbox(aussie locker) in the rear of mine with a 5spd manual. It's a blast and kicks *** wheeling. Just a pain on the daily. Parking lots are awkward, slow yet speedy tight turns are awkward..gotta kick the shifter into neutral to unlock it for the turn. Just overall it's an awkward driver...but you get used to it. 8 months of running it and I regret not getting a selectable locker.


I don't think I saw anyone say this yet... You DO NOT want a spool for a DD.
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^^i agree with shane!!
NO SPOOLS!! I wheel a lot and had a spool for a couple weeks and even tho it was funny and loud it was super annoying and bad for the truck. the only spool you would ever want would be on a wheeler on in the front cause we have selectable hubs.... then again.. cory has a spooled/welded front and back on his SAS'ed 07 on 40s! hahahahahahhaahahaha
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You don't want a lunchbox if you don't wheel it much. I see 5spd in your signature....you won't like it much at all. Takes some real getting used to and you can't just let anyone drive the truck after it's installed. Takes a training course! lol.

I've got a lunchbox(aussie locker) in the rear of mine with a 5spd manual. It's a blast and kicks *** wheeling. Just a pain on the daily. Parking lots are awkward, slow yet speedy tight turns are awkward..gotta kick the shifter into neutral to unlock it for the turn. Just overall it's an awkward driver...but you get used to it. 8 months of running it and I regret not getting a selectable locker.


I don't think I saw anyone say this yet... You DO NOT want a spool for a DD.
yea that seems like it wou-ld be a royal PITA.... the selectable lockers are pricey from that i have heard. so i should just keep what i got now and either just not get stuck or so anywhere where i would think twice or not wheel alone lol.... that would saolve all my problems for cheap lol
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Yea for the most part you summed it up. The selectable lockers are expensive, the only other option that would work for you is the Torsen style LS. I don't think the torsen works in a 28 spline but I know their are other gear driven LS on the market, I just can't remember who makes them off hand, detroit or something. Also no one mentioned the OX locker for a selectable. I think that thing is great, just pricey, in the range of 800 dollars.
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yea forget that ill stick to easier trails and a partner. i dont wheel enough or hard enough to justify spending that... a partner and easier trials i dont second guess are going to be my best friends lol
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But I will say though.... IDK if you're open or LS right now or whatever(havn't read the entire thread), I say go for a lunchbox. You can always take it out and throw the spider gears back in it if you wanted to and/or don't like it.
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Are you just not happy with your lsd or is it worn out?
I have Arb's in the Jeep and love them. Have had Ox in others, didn't like them as much. Detroit makes some good lockers for the money . Not too expensive, but not bullet proof either.
If it were me, I'd save the $ for a bumper and a winch. Or Arb's.
Have looked into one for the ranger and I am not quite sure I want to spend that much on something I will not wheel as much as the Jeep.
Still trying to convince the wife I need 1 tons on the Jeep and I can steal the Jeeps 44's for the truck....
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Are you just not happy with your lsd or is it worn out?
I have Arb's in the Jeep and love them. Have had Ox in others, didn't like them as much. Detroit makes some good lockers for the money . Not too expensive, but not bullet proof either.
If it were me, I'd save the $ for a bumper and a winch. Or Arb's.
Have looked into one for the ranger and I am not quite sure I want to spend that much on something I will not wheel as much as the Jeep.
Still trying to convince the wife I need 1 tons on the Jeep and I can steal the Jeeps 44's for the truck....
no its is not worn out or anything(as far as i know) but as i get more familiar wiht the truck and do more off roading i dont want to worry about not having a locker if im flexxed or anytihing. as i stated above im just going tio have to take it easy and go with another truck t5o pull me out if need be. also i stated above that i cant justify spending the money on a locker and or bumper and winch cuz i cant say ill off road enough to reall have to worry about it
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will my factory limited slip get me through most things other that heavy flexxing and yea "sticky" situations. sorry i dont have much expirence in the offroad and L/S and locker world. how how useless is a L/S compared to a locker? and a L/S compaired to a open diff? (all used off road)
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Yea for the most part you summed it up. The selectable lockers are expensive, the only other option that would work for you is the Torsen style LS. I don't think the torsen works in a 28 spline but I know their are other gear driven LS on the market, I just can't remember who makes them off hand, detroit or something. Also no one mentioned the OX locker for a selectable. I think that thing is great, just pricey, in the range of 800 dollars.


That would be the Detroit Tru Trac I believe you're referring to. No clutches to wear out too.
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bryan we have very similar trucks.... how does your lock right work for you??? does your tires in back skip around corners??? or how does yours work
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