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Manual hub conversion on the '03 LII

Per this thread..... https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=48992

I'm converting to manual hubs.

I'm making sure I have to parts list correct and complete. I need to verify that I'm ordering the correct parts and also the correct amount of parts. Need your input.

Aside from the 98-00 axle shafts/cv's's, here goes....

First, the wheel hub and bearing assembly, just found these on eBay w/lifetime warranty http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Range...QQcmdZViewItem



Second, AVM Hubs http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Locki...QQcmdZViewItem



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Dont you have the wrong hubs?? The only one that makes them for the 98-00 is AVM.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/product_in...ducts_id/26509
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Dont you have the wrong hubs?? The only one that makes them for the 98-00 is AVM.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/product_in...ducts_id/26509

yeah travis I don't think those "top hat" style will work. You are going to need go with the AVM hubs. Besides those are cheaper.
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Umm, isn't that really stupid to convert his ranger to manual hubs? He has a front live axle anyways, so it isn't like he's having hub problems anyways.
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well he is going to put a front locker in as well as 4.56 gears and 35" tires. So when he breaks something he can unlock the hubs and drive home without causing more damage.
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plus mpg should be even better. and turning on the street to be easier.
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plus mpg should be even better. and turning on the street to be easier.

I don't even want to think about trying to turn with locked hubs and a locker on the street. It would make the driver look like he normally drives a geo metro.
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I don't even want to think about trying to turn with locked hubs and a locker on the street. It would make the driver look like he normally drives a geo metro.

that would only be when in 4wd. even a locked live axle truck still turns fine. its only when power is being applied.
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Dont you have the wrong hubs?? The only one that makes them for the 98-00 is AVM.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/product_in...ducts_id/26509
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Umm, isn't that really stupid to convert his ranger to manual hubs? He has a front live axle anyways, so it isn't like he's having hub problems anyways.
Yeah, it is pretty stupid since it's sitting in the shop torn down and the one wheel bearing needs replaced as well as both of the axle shafts.
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Retention Conversion? Explain what that is and what it does?
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Yeah, it is pretty stupid since it's sitting in the shop torn down and the one wheel bearing needs replaced as well as both of the axle shafts.

What is wrong with both axle shafts???
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Just the joints.
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Retention Conversion? Explain what that is and what it does?
It was to my understanding it was needed for the warns but the descriptions of the avm's make no mention to them.
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It was to my understanding it was needed for the warns but the descriptions of the avm's make no mention to them.
its because your compairing apples to pizza... warn hubs are for TTB suspension and you are looking at AVM for t-bar suspension... they share no common parts...
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So we're down to a the 98-00 Axle shafts, avm hubs, and a pair of the wheel hub bearing assemblies.

Do I got this right yet?
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yes still dont know why you want to do this.. it doesnt make your front end a "locker" you will still have one wheel spinning with the open diff...

and the reason for the AVM hubs is the pulse vac hubs have some many problems. where as the live axle on your truck is more reliable...
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yes still dont know why you want to do this.. it doesnt make your front end a "locker" you will still have one wheel spinning with the open diff...

and the reason for the AVM hubs is the pulse vac hubs have some many problems. where as the live axle on your truck is more reliable...
It makes perfect sense to me why he is doing this. After breaking that cv the other day he had to drive it home. Well with a live axle those cv's are spinning no matter if 4x4 is engaged or not. So had he had manual locking hubs he would have been able to unlock the hubs and drive home without any possible further damage.

Also once he has a locker and 35's he is going to break cv's more easily so manual locking hubs will almost be needed.
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where as the live axle on your truck is more reliable...
Leaving the hubs locked makes it 'essentially' a live axle. That's what I always did with my old trucks. If I'm planning on going wheelin' then I'd lock the hubs, if I didn't engage 4wd then no big deal. Unlock once I got home, same with winter time. Lock the hubs at the beginning of the winter and unlock after the thaw.

I think it'd also save on wear and reduce resistance by not having to turn the axle shafts, front diff, and front driveshaft.
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travis man if you do this and it work i will difinitly have to do it. i would rater have manual hubs as well
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So we're down to a the 98-00 Axle shafts, avm hubs, and a pair of the wheel hub bearing assemblies.

Do I got this right yet?

yep, all that should work. its really just 3 parts.

i think its an awesome idea to do. less vibrations, better mpg, less wear and tear. i want my D44 for this reason! and i want it soon!
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AVM's ordered from the link above.

I had to contact the seller of the hub/bearing assembly b/c only one was listed. I'm ordering a pair of them from him directly and he's gonna cut me a price break.

I'm waiting on a shipping quote from Jason(rngprerunner) for the 98-00 axle shafts.


If all goes well and the parts are in I will be going up to the garage where my truck is and swapping the parts out on Wenesday. I know damn well I won't have any of the parts by the weekend, which is about the only time I have to work on the beast. I conveniently have off on Wed. to attend a court date for a speeding ticket in the rig I'm trying to fight


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After all is said and done I will have the same amount of money invested in this project as if I were to go to the Ford dealer and have the cv replaced.
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you will also be able to unlock one hub when the front is in a bind to prevent more CV breakage.

get after it!
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sweet travis get-r-dun!

wish it was that cheap and easy on my D30. haha
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you will also be able to unlock one hub when the front is in a bind to prevent more CV breakage.

get after it!
Yup yup yup!

I'll have to get some new batteries for my digi cam and take lots of pics for a how-to type thread.
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I wish I would of done this when I had to change my wheel bearings about a month ago.
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