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Woah woah woah woah... ENAMEL?

That might be your problem right there. If im not mistaken ( i MIGHT be, being in CA, we dont get all the same products as the rest of the US...) the Nason enamels are single stage and require a hardener. Did the color stay sticky after you sprayed it? if so, i bet thats why it reacted. It was soft, and the laquer on top of it attacked it and caused the wrinkle. Thats very common as enamels and laquers dont get along at all!

Id check back with your paint store, or see if the label on the mix tells you if there is any hardener required. Most enamels are single stage, and im only aware of Nason having one type of basecoat and the label of the stuff you have isnt the same as that one.

on your label, whats the formula number? Its probably like 43567IO or 34597IF or something. The two letters in the formula number are what im concened with. Those denote the material series. (basecoat, acrylic enamel S/S, urethane S/S, synthetic enamel S/S etc...)

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Formula: 407848 The other label stating the color and who mixed it says "Fastdry Acrylic Enamel SS"

Directions on the can say to reduce it with up to 25% reducer.

Paint was hard as I left it untouched for approx 30hrs.
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Ok i just looked up their TDS (i blew up a pic of the can and saw the series of paint - an IE suffix)... you DONT require a hardener for this stuff so you are ok there. I think most of your problem at this point does in fact arise from the clearcoat that you used. Im not sure if this material is meant to be clearcoated to begin with, as the TDS on the product doesnt even have a reccomendation for a topcoat time. the only mention of anything close to that is a recoat time of 48 hours and a 'tack free;'ime of 1-2 hours (which seems long btw, you can clearcoat over regular basecoat in like 20 minutes)

For what its worth, next time you buy paint for a project like this youll be better served to use the standard Nason Ful-Base basecoat. It is still pretty cheap, and is meant to be clearcoated. This stuff you have looks like its meant to be just sprayed on like you would an aerosol can product and left alone. I still think you can get what you have to work, but make life easier next time and use the other stuff.


The formula for the proper basecoat would use the same number, but it would have IF at the end of the number to denote Nason Ful-Base.
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Gotcha. I was really surprised with the result after the first coat of color. I'm used to having the color be sorta dull and needing a clear(this is merely coming from experience with the duplicolor rattle can color match stuff).

I suppose I'll sell some more things, order up some more emblems, and get me the real base coat and clear. I think my buddy who painted my visor still owes me a pint of the real stuff....

You know...I've got these two painted rear bumpers that I may use what I have left over on one........

Maybe I'll find my darn detail sprayer(a real sprayer) and do it right next time. These are the 2nd and 3rd emblems I've done...and it's a pretty good improvement over the 1st one(that now resides on my tailgate)(and if you forget the clear coat issue). lol.
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Taped the emblem to the truck.....had to see what it would look like:








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looks sick
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looks sick
You always boil it down to the simplest of terms

SICK!!

You should do a set in black and send me some up Shane....
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You always boil it down to the simplest of terms

SICK!!

You should do a set in black and send me some up Shane....
LOL....unfortunately, I think my little brother wants me to do his for him...in Black. I told him....have fun! lol.
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charge him and then charge him again for having to haul that ugly steppy around on your frame haha
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Holey hell batman those things are sick!
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nicccccccccccccccccccceeeee
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LOL....unfortunately, I think my little brother wants me to do his for him...in Black. I told him....have fun! lol.
Yes, i do want you to do it. What else will you do for your free time? If you want, you can switch me spots. I've got 10weeks of the previous college classes i must learn for finals next week...have fun! hahahaa

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charge him and then charge him again for having to haul that ugly steppy around on your frame haha
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Yes, lacquer clears tend to make a mess of decent work, unless all your base work is lacquer as well. I've got a ton of leftover stuff down here, it wouldn't take but a couple ounces to clear those if you brought some DWB basecoat. Too bad its a 2+ hour drive, I'd hook you up.
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just charge ur brother :P lol

looks sick
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looks good man
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Looks pretty damn good man. Kudos to ya!!
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Did you install them?
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He has not installed them yet.
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He has not installed them yet.
Pfff lazy!
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Not installed yet..I havn't updated my thread have I? lol.

Not lazy because I've been calling my buddy who painted my visor for my left over paint everyday for about a week!! I have however, purchased a new tack cloth, and 2 rolls of different thinner, less tackier 2" tape. And some new xacto blades as well. Craft store FTW!
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uggg......more masking is goin' down right about meow...
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It's about time LOL
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uggg......more masking is goin' down right about meow...
I see what you did there LOL
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Good luck this time. lol
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Yeah Jeez shane. May of 09??? About time. Hope it turns out well.....What are you going to do about the NO Flare thing you got going on?
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