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PIPE has a thicker wall, more structural strength than tubing. I want to know why you would use Tubing for a bumer. I worked as a "piping designer" for an oil refinery, tubing is ordered in guages, pipe is ordered in schedules 10, 20, 40, ect, and is always thicker and will have more structural support than tubing. as such it is harder to bend, and tight bends cannot be made but shouldnt be a problem for a bumper, it will be heavier though. The crap pipe that you buy at home depot is not the same as steel pipe used in industry,
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I was just googling it to learn more,

Pipe is measured ID, Tube is OD.
Pipe is stronger also. BUT pipe is harder to bend(BUT cheaper to buy bending apparatus)

When we think of making a bumper we all see you needing to bend the tube/pipe. Because a lot of people build prerunner bumpers and whatnot.

If you're making a 4 inch pipe bumper, i guess that makes sense.
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PIPE has a thicker wall, more structural strength than tubing. I want to know why you would use Tubing for a bumer. I worked as a "piping designer" for an oil refinery, tubing is ordered in guages, pipe is ordered in schedules 10, 20, 40, ect, and is always thicker and will have more structural support than tubing. as such it is harder to bend, and tight bends cannot be made but shouldnt be a problem for a bumper, it will be heavier though. The crap pipe that you buy at home depot is not the same as steel pipe used in industry,

When was the last time you saw a race car made from Pipe? Or any Competition vehicle for that matter?
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I was just googling it to learn more,

Pipe is measured ID, Tube is OD.
Pipe is stronger also. BUT pipe is harder to bend(BUT cheaper to buy bending apparatus)

When we think of making a bumper we all see you needing to bend the tube/pipe. Because a lot of people build prerunner bumpers and whatnot.

If you're making a 4 inch pipe bumper, i guess that makes sense.
Not to be a jerk but it should make sense considering If you would have even bothered to read my post you would know what I wanted , But no you insisted on making fun of me when I was wright and you obvviuosly had no clue to begin with .
thanks jimehat112 Thanks for the info , I had one of our pipe drafters give me some help on material selection . But this is all on hold till I upgrade rear suspension .
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mike that looked freaken sweet , But I still want my pipe so it will match the plans I have for the front .

BTW THE BRACKETS MADE IT SAFE AND SOUND FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND WORKED GREAT NO FRAME DAMAGE OR NOTHING SO THANKS AGAIN .
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Not to be a jerk but it should make sense considering If you would have even bothered to read my post you would know what I wanted , But no you insisted on making fun of me when I was wright and you obvviuosly had no clue to begin with .
thanks jimehat112 Thanks for the info , I had one of our pipe drafters give me some help on material selection . But this is all on hold till I upgrade rear suspension .

Making fun of you? No, we were trying to tell you that "pipe used for bumpers" is called "tube". That's not making fun of you, unless you're a pansy. Your first post doesn't say 4 inch pipe anyways. And I only posted that stuff to share what I just learned with other people, I don't care to share something with you that you already know.
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Here was my plan once I get my welder at the first of the year , to fabricate a front bumper for my ranger . The insperation was a Ranchhand full replacement . Here is some pics , keep in mind it would be downsized for weight issues . I do no like all the gaps in the prerunner style .


The main design is a 4" schedule 40 pipe and 12 gauge diamond plate steel side skirts and trim . But as I said it would have to be smaller component due to weight issues .
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Making fun of you? No, we were trying to tell you that "pipe used for bumpers" is called "tube". That's not making fun of you, unless you're a pansy. Your first post doesn't say 4 inch pipe anyways. And I only posted that stuff to share what I just learned with other people, I don't care to share something with you that you already know.
Well im sorry I kinda took the whole highway picture thing , to mean what it was an insult . And cleary for the enth time the material im using is called pipe
tube is what is used for prerunner style bumpers .

If you would care to check my last post or go to this link
http://www.ranchhand.com/frontbumperreplacements.aspx
youll se what I mean about the style I was wanting , Once again sorry for the misunderstanding .
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May i ask why you specifically want pipe?

Pipe is made to hold internal pressure. They are not made to withstand external forces - similar to those that a bumper would take under impact.

I think the reason people were correcting you on tube over pipe is because they assumed that you made a common mistake and weren't seriously considering making a protective component out of something that wouldn't hold when it was needed...

As for your want of a schematic... i just have to say: "really?" If you're taking to a fabrication shop anyway, just tell them what you have in your head and they should be able to make it happen... If they don't do what you want, you make them do it again. It's the benefit of being a customer.

I won't even delve into the aesthetics of this topic...
engineering student? i second the above.
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plenty of people around these parts use "pipe" for bumpers...

just not on rangers, so much... mostly on the big ranch hand style bumpers...

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Pipe vs Tube



What's the difference between a pipe and a tube?


More often than not, people guess it has something to do with the quality of the materials, but that's got nothing to do with it. The difference between a pipe and a tube is how they are measured, and ultimately what they are used for.


A pipe is a vessel - a tube is structural.


A pipe is measured ID - a tube is measured OD.


How they are measured... Pipes are measured ID or inside diameter because they are vessels. Tubes are measured OD or outside diameter because they are structural.


Pipes have a consistent ID regardless of wall thickness. In other words, a 1/2" high pressure pipe may need a 2" thick wall, but the ID will still only be 1/2" even tho the OD is 4.5".


Generally speaking, a tube will have a consistent OD and it's ID will change. Engineers see tubes and pipes with different eyes.
A tube is structural.
By having a consistent OD they can vary wall thickness, changing the ID, to increase strength. Because they are consistent OD, they have predictable characteristics.


Again, the difference is simple, it's how they are measured and what their intended uses are.
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Well im sorry I kinda took the whole highway picture thing , to mean what it was an insult . And cleary for the enth time the material im using is called pipe
tube is what is used for prerunner style bumpers .

If you would care to check my last post or go to this link
http://www.ranchhand.com/frontbumperreplacements.aspx
youll se what I mean about the style I was wanting , Once again sorry for the misunderstanding .

The highway pictures was in reference to the sign that said "dunwoody blvd" which is the college i go to and he used to go to.
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I would love to have a bumper like this for my truck!
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ill sell you mine, its notched to be able to flip a uhaul hitch upside down
but shipping on a 150-180lb bumper would be your left nut and your first born
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mike that looked freaken sweet , But I still want my pipe so it will match the plans I have for the front .

BTW THE BRACKETS MADE IT SAFE AND SOUND FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND WORKED GREAT NO FRAME DAMAGE OR NOTHING SO THANKS AGAIN .
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