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Need some help converting my wirefed welder to MIG

I have a Campbell Hausfeld wire fed fluxcored welder and I am starting to weld more and could someone please give me some info on converting it to a MIG welder with the shielding gas and a link to a kit that will work with a Campbell Hausfeld welder.
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Sell it and buy a welder that's not from Harbor Freight...
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I already have tried that but if you didn't notice I will quote my self.

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I have a Campbell Hausfeld wire fed fluxcored welder and I am starting to weld more and could someone please give me some info on converting it to a MIG welder with the shielding gas and a link to a kit that will work with a Campbell Hausfeld welder.
As in what to do since there isnt much info on it, only product descriptions.
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So you want to go from flux core to solid wire? Change out the drive rollers. That's all you need to do.

Actually in most cases, you don't even need to do that... Just replace the wire with core wire.

As far as the gas goes, do you have a input on the back of the welder for a gas bottle line?
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Sell it and buy a welder that's not from Harbor Freight...
Harbor Freight? And I don't weld enough so theres no point in investing in a new one and the reason I have it is because a close family friend of ours passed away and in the will we were able to take some tools out of the garage.
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So you want to go from flux core to solid wire? Change out the drive rollers. That's all you need to do.

Actually in most cases, you don't even need to do that... Just replace the wire with core wire.

As far as the gas goes, do you have a input on the back of the welder for a gas bottle line?
But isnt there a kit I need to convert it to use a shielding gas?
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How about a few pictures of the welder? That will help me help you out...

If the welder has a port on the back of it for gas input, all you need is a gas bottle and regulator and gas line to the welder from the tank... Then change out the flux wire for core wire... Or you could always run dual shield, which is amazing. you need 75/25 though (75% Argon, 25% CO2) for dual shield.
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I'll have a picture soon but I know it doesn't have a gas input.
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Then I'm not sure you can run gas on the welder.

Inner shield is alright for light duty things. It just takes awhile to weld with. I've used it many times.
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Haha I found this link googling and then I realized it was the same person

Campbell Hausfeld: Converting wirefed to Mig - WeldingWeb™ - Welding forum for pros and enthusiasts
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I have a Campbell Hausfeld wire fed fluxcored welder and I am starting to weld more and could someone please give me some info on converting it to a MIG welder with the shielding gas and a link to a kit that will work with a Campbell Hausfeld welder.
Ok. I'll take a crack at answering this. I pretty much agree with what TrePaul said. If you don't see any sort of Gas Input on your welder more then likely it won't work with anything other then Flux Core wire.

Any welder I've worked with has a gas input that you simply connect a hose to from the tank which gets tied to the gun. Now I've mainly worked with Millermatic 252s and 350s so a different level then this.

Can you describe more where you got the welder? Do you see any Manufacturer information on the welder or model numbers? I've did a quick search and found this:

Amazon.com: Campbell Hausfeld WF2150 Flux Core Wire Feed Welder: Home Improvement

Which appears to be designed only for Flux Core. But again, we need some information about the Welder in general to really help out.

You could also try out forums like OFN (Offroad Fabrication Network) and see if they can help. But again, they will probably ask a lot of the same questions.

My guess though would be it won't work with gas. You'll need a new welder.

EDIT:

Did some more searching and found this:

http://www.jackssmallengines.com/ch_welder_mig.cfm

http://www.jackssmallengines.com/ch_welder_flux.cfm

As you can the 1st link there is the MIG version of their welders. It already has a built in Gas valve.

The 2nd link is the Flux Core verison. It can't use Gas.
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Haha I found this link googling and then I realized it was the same person

Campbell Hausfeld: Converting wirefed to Mig - WeldingWeb™ - Welding forum for pros and enthusiasts
Haha yep, my name is supposed to be cmc but I messed up and buy cnc

But I'm just heading down to the garage now to get info on the welder.
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Heres the pictures.

Sorry for all the pictures but I really don't know much about welding so I don't know what to take pictures of.









And here was my 3rd weld, I personally think its really good considering I started welding 20 minutes before I did this one.
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Turn your heat down... The bead is widening too fast and creating that "smooth" bead.

It should look like a stack of dimes stacked on top of each other. I would turn the wire speed down just a bit too.... Run down to a local welding shop and get yourself some anti-spatter spray. It helps with welders like these (inner shield, dual shield and SMAW welding). It'll make that spatter easy to clean off with a chipping hammer.
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Also remember to watch you duty cycle. You could burn that welder up quick if you weld too long with it between cooling times.

But I still stand that it can't be converted to gas. That's a inner shield or FCAW welder. Still a good welder man, but it won't accept gas. Thanks for the pics for clarification though!
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I think I might be going to buy a new welder soon, since this one doesn't allow me to change much settings since I was already on low heat and I am starting to think it cant accept gas. But I am planning on building a go-kart for my nephew so I want to be using the right equipment so I can keep it safe. Can you guys recommend me a good welder that can accept gas and is cheap.
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Well first off... No "good" welder is goin to be cheap..

However, I love the Miller's.... Even a low end miller will blow a C&H, or HF welder outta the water. I'd swear up and down by a miller. Awesome welders.

Also look into a Lincoln. We use those all the time too. They have some awesome 110V core wire welders that accept gas that we use at school all the time. Work great on things up to bout 1/4in (max) all the way down to say 14-16ga sheet metal.

I don't know any model numbers off the top of my head, since the school goes through them all the time.
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This is what I have, great for projects and wont break the bank.
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Been considering doing a mig conversion to my Lincoln Weld Pak 125 HD, they do sell a kit for this conversion.

I believe you are looking for something similar to this kit. I dunno if it would work for a CH though.

LINCOLN MIG CONVERSION KIT K2526-1 NEW 120V - eBay (item 360167386581 end time Sep-01-09 08:52:59 PDT)
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