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You can Shane! I'll cut you some brackets this week... And for those who are interested... I can cut all sizes... 7.5in axles, 8.8 28 spline axles and 8.8 31 spline axles... And I can even make some 9in brackets (Matt lol)...

So stoked the way they turned out! Couldn't be happier with what I learned and what other people thought of them... I had a friends dad look at them tonight, and he's never really said good work to me, partly cuz i've always owned a ford... But looked at them and was explained the concept of how that style works, and he even said, wow, that's really good work... So it felt good to hear it.

Kyle, I can tell you right now, you have a pretty good amount of wrap, just feeling what mine feels like with the bar, and remembering what it feels like without it... You'll want some when you drive the truck. I'll let you drive it if you wanna see what I mean.
 
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i can see potential income for you if you have the time to make these and sell them on here... they really look nice!
 
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Well only thing I can sell really is the bars and the brackets... Maybe the tubing for the top mounts... But That kit I can sell on here. Donate the money to my ITS fund for school which funds new machines and steel and such... Something I have to attend a meeting for every wednesday.

If people are interested... I can start selling almost complete kits... Welding is necessary, but I can include the mounts (both the axle mounts and the upper mount I used), shackle, bolts for all and the bars at the lengths... You would need to cope the tubes, weld on sleeves with bushings, or run heims, and weld up the mounts at both ends. I can't really do that for you guys lol

Let me know if these are something you guys are interested in!
 
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No offense but how is everyone having wheel hop issues?? My ranger has 6" lift springs in the rear, and have never expierenced wheel hop when I'm able to drive it, the rear stays planted!! Love the set up though, nice lookin lil kit you've made!
 
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No offense but how is everyone having wheel hop issues?? My ranger has 6" lift springs in the rear, and have never expierenced wheel hop when I'm able to drive it, the rear stays planted!! Love the set up though, nice lookin lil kit you've made!
your obviously not good enough friends with the skinny pedal.

and its not only wheel hop, its to control the axle from wanting to turn into a top loader, in turn breaking drive shafts, u joints, axle housings, yokes etc. I haven't had much issue on the muddy/dirt trails i've been running recently but on the street i can feel it moving, and i know the Granite of Katemcy is gonna kill me.
 
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with a 3.0, 5.13's, 37's and a manual you can only do so much with the skinny pedal, squirrels/gerbils can only do so much! Only vib I get is in the drive train, don't think I have the tranny bolted down tight enough, used poly bushings instead of rubber for the mount and believe i left it too loose!!!
 
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Originally Posted by stRanger
No offense but how is everyone having wheel hop issues?? My ranger has 6" lift springs in the rear, and have never expierenced wheel hop when I'm able to drive it, the rear stays planted!! Love the set up though, nice lookin lil kit you've made!
you know i didnt think i had it either until i made mine. worth every penny!
 
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ehh mine doens't get driven much if at all anyways (bad death wobble) and my lil 110 welder isn't enough to weld onto the axle tubes anyways...
 
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sure it is, double pass it.
 
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didn't think i'd get enough penetration into the axle tube due to the size and it acting like a huge heat sink... when i've tried welding thick stuff i've never had good luck with stuff stickin cause the bigger piece just soaks up the heat..
 
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Yeah Trevor when I get my truck done this summer I would maybe buy one from ya. I already have some mad wheel hop with the locker in my stock axle/leafs. And with my 5.0 I gota watch out for my **** :)
 
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So Beard/Tre questions.... Beards top bar is flat with the mount, and yours Tre is angled downward... So is there any difference as far as how well it works, or is it just due to the type of set up?
 
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id say it just has to do with your mount points. Mine is roughly 56" long too.

If you look at Tre's his mount lower on the axle than the crappy pic i have of mine. Like I said its probably all on the room you have and how you mount it.
 
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Hell yeah i wanna drive it!
 
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Yeah I was talking with shane about the ruff stuff brackets and being 8in on center with the mounting holes on the axle, and neither one of us could come up with a really good reason as of why, other than positioning for the front mount, and being flat like beards. I really don't see a reason why one is better than the other. Both serve the purpose they're designed for...

And like Zach said.... I didn't realize it was as bad as it was when I put them on.... You can really feel the power being planted... Not that I have much power, but hey, you can still feel it!

I'll do $30 plus shipping on the axle tubing brackets for 3/8in plate... $40 plus shipping on the same brackets in 1/2in plate.. And those wanting to have the tube cut and shipped in pieces we can talk and work out a price.

Probably my best fabrication mod yet.. And mod that's shown the biggest improvement!
 
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0-60 times with and without traction bars
 
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I need a stronger clutch now. lol
 
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Actually 8" of separation is pretty standard. 7-8. You want about 25% of your tire diameter or more to help control the wrap. the more they are spread apart the less force it will take to hold the axle in place.
 
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i'd be interested in a set....i like the look of these better than the bolt ons from summit
 
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Awesome job on those tre, can't wait till I learn to tig. I want a set!!!
 
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Ahhh learn somethin new every day thanks Zach!

So are mine in a bad location? I mean with only 6in centers?
 
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Looks really good man!!! I may be interested in a set.
 
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Very nice work, I like how they match your Bilsteins!
 
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Ahhh learn somethin new every day thanks Zach!

So are mine in a bad location? I mean with only 6in centers?
nah they look good to me.

only thing i think is why use the extra material to go around the backside of the axle tube and loose clearance on the bottom of the axle tube.

maybe try a bracket on the front. and on newer revisions make the spacing further apart.
 
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I had them on the front, but the heims kept hitting the bracket, so I put them from the back side to have the most clearance.

On ones that I'll be selling, I'll go ahead and make the spacing on a 7in center. Just an inch over mine. Still... I really wanna test out the flex, and see what she does!
 


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