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Tube Bumper Mounting Points?

hey guys, im workin on getting tubing for the tube bumper me and my friend is plannin to build and was just seeing if you had any suggestions on where i should or how i can mount it. i will be taking off the upper buper part but wont until i get some tubing. here are some pics if they would help
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really the only place to mount that will be sturdy is to the frame. just have to design it so it bolts on or welds on.
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yeah you will have to fab up brackets attached to it. some people also cut off the factory mounting points and make their own. Also you might need to upgrade to #1 tbars and crank them to compensate for the weight increase.
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Id suggest boxing the frame horns and building from them. That will give your bumper the most strength and I think it makes tube bumpers look better when the frame horns are boxed.
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do you think a bracket/tube coming off the middle crosmember would be good, someone told me that the crossmember isnt very strong and he cut his off
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really the only place to mount that will be sturdy is to the frame. just have to design it so it bolts on or welds on.
ya i know to the frame but i wasn sure.
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yeah you will have to fab up brackets attached to it. some people also cut off the factory mounting points and make their own. Also you might need to upgrade to #1 tbars and crank them to compensate for the weight increase.
allright cool, ill be getting spindle lift soon so i will be set
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Id suggest boxing the frame horns and building from them. That will give your bumper the most strength and I think it makes tube bumpers look better when the frame horns are boxed.
what do you mean by frame horns? not sure what that is.
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http://dirtunited.com/forum/tech-articles/728.htm

That should explain alot, its a dodge but same concept.
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dude that helps a lot thanks!
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No problemo, definantly make a build thread though haha
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no way, i make a bumper and built them for other people for money haha.
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Good thing I like plate bumpers hahaha
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what? those are so easy, iv made about 6 of them...haha jk. they are cool but they arent as showy as i like. i like the big tubes everywhere ha
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I think if i lived someplace where deer hits and stuff like that wern't so common id probably make a tube bumper. This summer im gonna chop up my grill guard and make a bumper like seabass's old truck.
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ha only small animals here and they are fun to aim for
nice man, got any pics of his truck?
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https://www.ranger-forums.com/members/sea-bass-13016-albums-2004-ranger-50/

Theres his album, he used a c4x4 bumper and i think added the guard himself.
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dammmmm haha thats awesome! would be sick on your truck but you need some meats first
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I have some 33/12.5/17s Procomp AT in the bed of the truck. I got em for a steal, just need to get some rims to fit em haha
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awesome! im gunna drive up and steal them if they arejust in the bed ha jk,
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Let me restate that, there in my truck bed. And my trucks in the locked garage getting the transmission swapped haha
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Mount it to the fenders it will be the strongest.
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Mount it to the fenders it will be the strongest.
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^haha

friend showed me a place that sells tubing, i will be messureing and calling to see what i can get and how much. what type of tubing should i get? i want the main center tube to be bigger than the rest and the other parts can be smaller. i was thinkin 1.5" and 1" everywhere else, do you think thats good?
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1" tube is tiny stuff (remember that "PIPE" is a vessel/container so it'll be measured by its ID, and "TUBE", being structural, is measured by its OD)...

so a 1" tube is about the same as a 3./4" garden hose (tiny)...

Lots of the bumper tubes I bend are 1.5", 1.75", and 2" -- I think the 2" is getting about as "heavy" as you'd wanna get (kinda 'bulky' in my eyes, but it's all about your taste and stype in YOUR bumper)...

Grab the core outta some paper towels or toilet paper and kinda "hold it up there to get a feel for what you're looking for ...

Wall thickness will come to play for how well you'll "bump" instead of bend... Roll-cages go with .095" wall 1.75"dia materials for rides less than 3000# - In my limited brain, a roll cage is a one-use item and with multiple contact points the thin .095" material is gonna disform a bit and transfer into the other members... -- for a bumper - you're gonna smak into whatever in ONE place and likely NOT share the loading with a few other tubes and even then, the tubes will be mid-span mounted on frame-horns, etc producing some pretty focused forces -- Prolly should think of your thinnest material being about .120" - stepping-up the diameter of the tube should bring more strength than stepping up in thickness, but it's worth mentioning.

Again - a thin-wall 1" dia tube may be a lot less than what you want in a bumper...
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Awesome thanks for this info man! I have to fin out what bender my friend has cus he said it does 1.5" so maybe I can just do that everywhere cus sounds like I wouldn't want anything but if I can do 2" I would do the main tube in 2". Really thanks about the thickness info!!
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