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RescueRangerFX4 06-02-2004 09:30 PM

Hey guys! I though to be first one in here and I hope it's not a stupid question, but I kinda wonding something! Can a stock 4.0l sohc with auto 4x4 handle the Nos? and how many shots without blowing it up? I know it will void warrenty and I've been thinking about that!! Thanks in advance!!

bjv11 06-02-2004 10:08 PM

i dont know anything about nos, but i think it will for sure void ur warranty

mental ambiguity 06-02-2004 10:34 PM

I don't know how the 4x4 drivetrain will handle it, but the 4.0 handles it pretty well. Ask djayenos about it. He could tell you better than anyone, since he runs a pretty good setup.

RescueRangerFX4 06-03-2004 02:46 PM

Interseting... because I know it does pretty well on the vaulcan motor but the drivetrain is the different story!! As for the drivetrain 4.0l or 3.0l also I can understand how much stress it will put on it! But thanks anyways for respond guys!

D. 06-06-2004 06:43 AM

My current setup is a single stage that kicks in at 3900 ( ends at 5900 ) rpm via a MSD window switch and relay setup. It's a wet system ( I blew 2 manifolds with dry systems and wont ever try that route again ) .

I don't like juice and and Auto tranny as your tranny is programmed to shift at certain points/intervals where with a stick, you can keep it in the upper rpm's and stay on the juice till the rev limiter kicks in ( or the window switch cuts the juice off ).

If you do any offroading, Get a blower ( will produce bottom end torque more then juice ) . N2o is great for straight bursts and chasing down most imports.. But a blower is always on and in the mud.. easier to manage.

D.

RescueRangerFX4 06-06-2004 08:40 AM

ok !! cool choise! also at least it's easier on the engine than the nos, right?

D. 06-06-2004 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by RescueRangerFX4
ok !! cool choise! also at least it's easier on the engine than the nos, right?

Depends whos biasment you want to hear.

Personally.. I think superchargers and blowers are Much harder on an engine, less fuel efficient and cost a LOT more then a GOOD N2o setup.

Most Blowers/Turbos require an ECM flash and a whole new program. This requires a bit of downtime. I can run juice with a chip ( dual program ). I can have daily drivability on one side with 87 octane and a second program for the juice when I want it.

Supercharger? Care to fab a manifold? Play with water injection? Pinging, programming... You COULD run a dry 50 shot with NO issues if you really wanted to with just a WOT switch and maybe a hobbs ( just in case, for safty ) .

A GOOD head unit for a supercharger alone runs 1100-1500$ on the low end... I could do a whole N2o setup with a couple hrs of dyno time for the same amount.

Everything has its pros and cons.. If you want to run boost, go for it, be happy and enjoy it for as long as the bottom end of your engine will take it. The same goes for juice.

Boost and Juice don't blow engines, Idiocy and Fuk-Tards that are as challenged as an eggplant get stupid and waste engines ;)

Offroading.. I'd have a roots system installed.

D.

SuperGildo@RRP 06-30-2004 01:22 AM

roots system?

blckout 10-11-2004 02:46 PM

your stock motor can handle nitrous. i would suggest wet kit... and a 100 shot...

FoMoCoFiddy 10-11-2004 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by blckout
your stock motor can handle nitrous. i would suggest wet kit... and a 100 shot...

100 shot on a stock motor? Uh hell no....

blckout 10-11-2004 03:51 PM

it can easily handle it man.... if my little bitty ole civic could handle a 75 shot.... a ranger can hold 100....... . rule of thumb, dont double the horse power you have

IE my civic had 115
my first shot was a 50... 50x2 100... not doubled
second was 75 75x2 150.. dangerious...

FoMoCoFiddy 10-11-2004 04:16 PM

was that at the wheels hp or flywheel, civic? im guessing flywheel...

DOnt double your hp? I garuntee that thing didnt have 115 at the wheels...

So, maybe 85hp due to drivetrain loss of hp...

50x2 = 100 , pass 85....

You dont know what your talking about...lol

ScottG 10-11-2004 06:34 PM

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good thing this was brought back up

it isnt NOS!, NOS is a brand name, there are many different NITROUS kits out there, and IMO and from expericences my friends with nitrous have had, NOS isnt the best kit out there...

also, im not sure where you got your idea of hp to nitrous ratio, most people go by the amount of liters the engine can hold....

Mnemonic 10-11-2004 07:28 PM

22% drive train loss is what I figured on my old 3.0l. I guessed my vehicle's weight (with me and my crap in it too), took an E.T. from the track, and the advertised H.P. of the engine. That was a 3.0l manual by the way. So 22% on a good day for a manual, and that was with near perfect shifts.

blckout 10-11-2004 08:58 PM

its just the general rule of thumb, the civic ran the nitrous very well

FoMoCoFiddy 10-11-2004 09:09 PM

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blckout 10-11-2004 09:19 PM

Spindle Lifts.
 
HAHA LMFAO

92 Ranger 10-19-2004 06:02 PM

i had nos on my bike once... when i was a kid... take a shot of pepsi and i could feel the boost..... lol

88MaroonB2 01-31-2005 12:44 PM

I have very little knowledge on nitrous, but my friend is running a 75 shot on his 2.5L 4 banger(Nissan Sentra Spec V). I think you could handle between 75 and 100 shot on a stock 4.0L as long as your easy on it.

I have a 1.8 and I can safely handle 50...WOW 50 HP -rolls eyes-. If you want to be the first to find out go for it. But more cubic inches more you should be able to handle.

If you want to be safe on the engine run 75 shot...oh shyt late for class late.

TippnOver 01-31-2005 01:17 PM

bottles are for babies....

be a man and get blown

enuendo city...

FoMoCoFiddy 01-31-2005 02:23 PM

you dont understand...

Its not because the engine is bigger, so automatically it can handle more nitrous.. Stop thinking like a caveman...

These SOHC engines have a returnless fuel system,
when you spray, inside the intake manifold, you get puddling, of the nitrous, unused nitrous, and what does that puddled nitrous do inside the intake manifold..?

BAM! bye bye manifold.. Its not as easy as u think, you have to get rid of the access nitrous thats going inside the intake manifold..

The 97/98 Mountanier/Expolorer's came with a return fuel rail system.. Get that, around 600 bucks ..

And the engine could handle more of the nitrous.. Thing is, how much exactly do you want to spray into a plastic intake manifold?

But, you would also have to upgrade fuel systems, the stock fuel system can only compensate the nitrous/fuel ratio up to so big of a shot..

Too big of a shot, and not enough gas... Bye Bye engine..I've said enough.

Ok, now, no more topic archealoging.. This was posted in June of 03..

ranger024x4 01-31-2005 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by FoMoCoEdge
This was posted in June of 03..

U mean 04...

FoMoCoFiddy 01-31-2005 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by ranger02_4x4
U mean 04...


i read it wrong... shoot me... still old

ranger024x4 01-31-2005 05:59 PM

ayear is a big difference...lol

NHBubba_Revisited 01-31-2005 07:38 PM

This site didn't exist in '03..


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