What to use for fuel pressure to jet my 2002 Range for nitrous?
I can't seem to find a solid answer on what fuel pressure my 2002 Ranger is so I can adjust my NX kit accordingly. I'm going to bump my shot up to a 100 HP. Thanks.
PS please save the "you're gonna blow er up!" This isn't my first rodeo. |
stock should be about 50-60 psi if you have a 2.3 duratec like i do, your difference is that i boosted my motor and put some 36lb/hr injectors to compensate for the boost gonna try n20 on my next ranger 2.3 wanna ask you for some tips with n20
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+1 ^^^
1998 to 2011 Rangers used 55psi average fuel pressure on a Returnless system Pressure regulator is in the fuel pump assembly The way you increase engine power is to increase the amount of gasoline you can burn every 2 RPMs at 14.7:1 air:fuel ratio A 5 liter engine has more power than a 3 liter engine because it can pull in 2 more liters of air every 2 RPMs so more gasoline can be burned at 14.7:1 A turbo or super charger works by forcing more air into the engine, so more gasoline can be burned every 2 RPMs, so more power Nitrous oxide is basically compressed Oxygen, it splits into Oxygen and Nitrogen when heated in the cylinder, the Nitrogen is inert but the extra Oxygen is seen by the O2 sensors instantly in the exhaust, so computer instantly increases injector open times which increases gasoline burned and so increases power Turbo and super chargers provide fairly instant power and can damage engines not designed for the extra power, but the Nitrous injection is a more abrupt power increase, so a bit more dangerous for engines not designed for the increase in power, there is also the issues of LEAN condition developing which melts valves and pistons Yes, you already know that but others may not |
Originally Posted by RonD
(Post 2170425)
+1 ^^^
1998 to 2011 Rangers used 55psi average fuel pressure on a Returnless system Pressure regulator is in the fuel pump assembly The way you increase engine power is to increase the amount of gasoline you can burn every 2 RPMs at 14.7:1 air:fuel ratio A 5 liter engine has more power than a 3 liter engine because it can pull in 2 more liters of air every 2 RPMs so more gasoline can be burned at 14.7:1 A turbo or super charger works by forcing more air into the engine, so more gasoline can be burned every 2 RPMs, so more power Nitrous oxide is basically compressed Oxygen, it splits into Oxygen and Nitrogen when heated in the cylinder, the Nitrogen is inert but the extra Oxygen is seen by the O2 sensors instantly in the exhaust, so computer instantly increases injector open times which increases gasoline burned and so increases power Turbo and super chargers provide fairly instant power and can damage engines not designed for the extra power, but the Nitrous injection is a more abrupt power increase, so a bit more dangerous for engines not designed for the increase in power, there is also the issues of LEAN condition developing which melts valves and pistons Yes, you already know that but others may not Where would the best general location for the n20 tank be and how far infront of the throttle body should I place the wet injection setup, I do have a control module with an rpm cut off but I'm still drawing this all out in cad, the 2.3l duratec with stock internals I want to put my money on properly tuned can take 80 shot safely and 120 as a fragrance thing for a few times rebuild few times rebuild etc..... |
I would put it here and ask if a mod can change it to a Sticky: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forced...n-n20-tech-35/
The other Sticky there is a good read on Nitrous: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forced...bed-v8s-72038/ And I would not be the one to tell you about its injection, not my "cup of tea" I am a normally aspirated, no nitrous guy, I get why people like it, I just don't want it myself so don't follow its use Pay attention to the "phase", the transition from liquid to gas state |
Originally Posted by RonD
(Post 2170433)
I would put it here and ask if a mod can change it to a Sticky: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forced...n-n20-tech-35/
The other Sticky there is a good read on Nitrous: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forced...bed-v8s-72038/ And I would not be the one to tell you about its injection, not my "cup of tea" I am a normally aspirated, no nitrous guy, I get why people like it, I just don't want it myself so don't follow its use Pay attention to the "phase", the transition from liquid to gas state |
As far as I know the Rangers fuel pump gets "system" voltage full time when engine is running(RPMs above 400)
So 13.5v to 14.9volts from alternator And the fuel pressure regulator in the gas tank, from 3rd hose on fuel filter, maintains the 55psi pressure I do know Ford did use Duty Cycle fuel pump power using PWM(pulse width modulation) which would vary the power level at the fuel pumps, just didn't think Rangers ever had that |
Originally Posted by RonD
(Post 2170436)
As far as I know the Rangers fuel pump gets "system" voltage full time when engine is running(RPMs above 400)
So 13.5v to 14.9volts from alternator And the fuel pressure regulator in the gas tank, from 3rd hose on fuel filter, maintains the 55psi pressure I do know Ford did use Duty Cycle fuel pump power using PWM(pulse width modulation) which would vary the power level at the fuel pumps, just didn't think Rangers ever had that |
Make sure to include the years of the Rangers you know use what you find, including that its a 2.3l DOHC Duratec engine, "2.3l Ranger" also applies to 1983-1997 Rangers with Lima SOHC engines
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Originally Posted by RonD
(Post 2170439)
Make sure to include the years of the Rangers you know use what you find, including that its a 2.3l DOHC Duratec engine, "2.3l Ranger" also applies to 1983-1997 Rangers with Lima SOHC engines
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Yes, I think 2004 was last year for the J3 port but varies by Ford model of vehicle
I did see the F-150s started using a Fuel Pump Driver Module(FPDM) in 2004, this would be the voltage control for fuel pump But the fuel pump relay was no longer controlled by the PCM(computer) it was on with key on Didn't find much about Rangers and FPDM |
Originally Posted by RonD
(Post 2170443)
Yes, I think 2004 was last year for the J3 port but varies by Ford model of vehicle
I did see the F-150s started using a Fuel Pump Driver Module(FPDM) in 2004, this would be the voltage control for fuel pump But the fuel pump relay was no longer controlled by the PCM(computer) it was on with key on Didn't find much about Rangers and FPDM |
If no FPDM then fuel pump voltage should be System voltage all the time, PCM has no other control except FP relay which can't be used for PWM(variable power)
FPDM is used to reduce recirculating fuel via a pressure regulator, it causes more gas vapor in the tank One of the reason Return fuel system were end in 1998 Rangers but they still had the return and FPR in the tank, so still had a bit of the problem still FPDM eliminates it, but also adds one more thing to go wrong with fuel delivery system, FPRs in the tank didn't have all that many failure |
Originally Posted by RonD
(Post 2170449)
If no FPDM then fuel pump voltage should be System voltage all the time, PCM has no other control except FP relay which can't be used for PWM(variable power)
FPDM is used to reduce recirculating fuel via a pressure regulator, it causes more gas vapor in the tank One of the reason Return fuel system were end in 1998 Rangers but they still had the return and FPR in the tank, so still had a bit of the problem still FPDM eliminates it, but also adds one more thing to go wrong with fuel delivery system, FPRs in the tank didn't have all that many failure |
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