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5.4L Spark Plug Pictures

Finally found my camera charger so here we are. Pictures from a Nikon D60 with a AI'd 55mm f/2.8

One of the 3 plugs that didn't break



The weld on this nut broke off on 2 of the other plugs



Missed focus on this one, sorry for the hair too



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Dude, your spark plugs are growing hair. Thats not good.
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Wow how many miles?
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Wow how many miles?
68k
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So, Did you get them out?(btw.. I have an aunt that lives in Durham).YEE_HAW!!!
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Yeah, were you able to fix it yourself, and what did you do?
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Yeah, were you able to fix it yourself, and what did you do?
No, I had a Ford tech do it and he ended up breaking the other 4 he tried to get out.

I'm convinced you have to get them out when its hot and as fast as you can. I let the engine cool down to much and thats when they started breaking. I couldnt get my impact to the one on the back and removing it by hand wasnt quick enough to prevent it from breaking. He soaked them for a while like the TSB said and still broke everyone that he tried to remove.

I probably could have finished it by myself but by that time I was tired of messing with it.
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Ford and quality went together real well when picking out those plugs huh... I can almost hear the design engineers arguing about how and why it happens.... So does it noticably run better and hows the mpg's ? any increase?
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So does it noticably run better and hows the mpg's ? any increase?
No difference what so ever, I feel like they would have been fine up to 100k
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That is why I plan not to change the ones on my F250 until I'm down to about 2 cylinders... then maybe I'll change the plugs.
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Looks like fun. I just got to helicoil my brothers f-250 5.4. I was driving, just got out so he could ram rod it into his snowfilled yard to unload materials, I told him he could drive so I don't break anything, sure enough, his first throttle application resulted in -1 spark plug from his head. Classic 5.4.
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Older 2v 5.4L I assume Cole?
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Or very early 3v? hmm
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Mine was on a 2v
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Ford recommends that these engines sit until they are dead cold then remove the plugs. You are supposed to back them out about 1/8th turn, then soak with very thin penetrating oil(about 1/4" deep) for about 15 minutes each then start backing them out (turning back & forth) until they are out. I've done several of these & have still broken them off, but the odds are better if you do it Ford's way. I purchased a tool for removal at napa for about $125.00. The first time that I used it paid for the tool.(2 broken) It is a simple tool to use & only took about 15 minutes to remove them both. (Napa spark plug removal tool for 4.6 & 5.4 3 valve engines).
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Ford recommends that these engines sit until they are dead cold then remove the plugs. You are supposed to back them out about 1/8th turn, then soak with very thin penetrating oil(about 1/4" deep) for about 15 minutes each then start backing them out (turning back & forth) until they are out. I've done several of these & have still broken them off, but the odds are better if you do it Ford's way. I purchased a tool for removal at napa for about $125.00. The first time that I used it paid for the tool.(2 broken) It is a simple tool to use & only took about 15 minutes to remove them both. (Napa spark plug removal tool for 4.6 & 5.4 3 valve engines).
Lol the odds are better if you don't do it fords way. The way I did it I was 3/4 not breaking, the ford tech that finished it broke all 4 he tried.

The removal tool only cost me 50 bucks, 125 is crazy. You can get it on amazon for 60 new.
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Help me out.

Is there something about the Ford 5.4 that makes spark plug change difficult?

You guys are talking about all of them breaking. Is this just with the 5.4?
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Help me out.

Is there something about the Ford 5.4 that makes spark plug change difficult?

You guys are talking about all of them breaking. Is this just with the 5.4?
its a bad 2 piece spark plug design
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its a bad 2 piece spark plug design
Yup. Just with the 04-06 and some 07 5.4s though
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you made your bed now lay in it i cant remember all of the **** you gave myself and others for not considering 5.4l f150s when we decided on full size trucks .... and now yours went and broke .... **** the 5.4 and **** ford for not warrantying them when the damn things are held in with 4 threads.
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Damn hostile aren't we? They are still good motors and will pull damn near anything hooked up to it....
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i wont deny they are good motors but **** the spark plugs and gas mileage .... i havent heard of 5.3l silverados having anywhere near these kinds of problems ... furthermore .... trent like i said has talked **** to many people who moved on to chevys or other rigs because they didnt want to deal with 5.4l bull**** spark plugs.
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Lol ok, whatever. Still love the truck!
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I work at Advance and while I was putting a battery in for a guy with a chebby we got on the chevy/ford battle. He looked at me and said he had nothing for the ford's 5.4
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