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can we at least agree both are better than a 6.0? lol.
lol, now thats hitting below the belt! haha

Thats the problem with the Powerstroke line after the 7.3, there is so much that changed so fast that everyone assumed its all crap. In reality, the 05-06 6.0L Powerstroke actually has a better rap sheet than any year 7.3L. But the motor was rushed into production to battle the 6.6 D-max, so it had a slew of recalls which were viewed of course to be a weakness of the motor... its that whole first impression thing, especially important when considering how well ford had it with the 7.3 *sigh...emissions* And sadly the 6.4 had it just as bad with its first impression. Both the 6.0 and the 6.4 are good motors, its just that they were rushed into production.

......AND thats the whole problem with the Powerstroke Ford/Navistar thing was that Ford knew how to build a truck, and Navistar knew how to build an engine. the issue was how they were dealing with each other. The products were not bad, but they were rushed and this makes for a bad impression, and bad impressions are hard to ignore.

However.....Ford and Navistar will be better now that they are apart, and that was something very obvious to me when i got to drive a new 6.7 powerstroke last week, it was the diesel that ford needed, and they had to do it on their own to get it. If you havent taken one for a drive around the block yet, and are thinking of going 6.7 cummins, or 6.6 D-max, i suggest you go drive that new powerstroke

all i gots to say about that is that new 6.7 makes the superduty dimensions seem ranger swift and i really like that about a large truck....hehehehe

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I saw a new powerstroke at the dealer in town. I pulled in and stopped, reached for my door handle and decided I better keep moving. lol
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I saw a new powerstroke at the dealer in town. I pulled in and stopped, reached for my door handle and decided I better keep moving. lol
lol, this was a wise move on your part...I have been trying to figure a way to afford one ever since i drove it, but its hard to justify spending over 40k on a truck when my ranger can still do everything i need in a truck and my college bills are starting to flow in...driving the 6.7 was probably a mistake on my part, i truly am developing wine taste on a beer budget..
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Hate to say it, it's junk. It's backwards of the Dodge. The truck around the engine is good, the engine is junk.


Sorry Zach, I did. That's why i'm looking at Ram 3500's now. How many times has the front cover come off that truck so far? If you'd like I can post the 5 pages of service history on the 08 F450 with the 6.4 I was looking at that had 35,000 miles on it. I'm sure it'll be fine for you, but if you were using the truck to make money, you'd be screwed. I've already talked to one guy who had to give up his business doing auto transport because his truck was already in the shop. There's a guy on the Cummins forum who has 270,000 miles on an 08 Ram 3500 with the 6.7. Like I said above, the truck around the engine is good.
Guess your not on the powerstroke forums....your so wrong lmao I have only heard of the First Engines having some issues but that was cleared up very fast by Ford

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Highest miles on a 6.4? Interim from Navistar, nope, this one is a strong motor!! - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

I have also heard more problems with the Dodges then the Fords but I wouldn't be afraid to buy either.

Hell if someone told me they would trade me a 6.0 for my 7.3 I would probably do it.
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Looks like a new truck with tint!

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Hate to say it, it's junk. It's backwards of the Dodge. The truck around the engine is good, the engine is junk.


Sorry Zach, I did. That's why i'm looking at Ram 3500's now. How many times has the front cover come off that truck so far? If you'd like I can post the 5 pages of service history on the 08 F450 with the 6.4 I was looking at that had 35,000 miles on it. I'm sure it'll be fine for you, but if you were using the truck to make money, you'd be screwed. I've already talked to one guy who had to give up his business doing auto transport because his truck was already in the shop. There's a guy on the Cummins forum who has 270,000 miles on an 08 Ram 3500 with the 6.7. Like I said above, the truck around the engine is good.
Yeah mine was a page long, 100k mile truck and most of that was from maintenance at the dealer. It only had the radiator replaced twice which is now fixed with that inline T
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I know of at least 3 2005-2006 6.0's that all have issues with the cooling systems. The trucks all receive dealer maint., one never pulls anything and has very little power always having issues with egr cooler and egr valve, the other 2 pull good sized loads, one a 25' horse trailer with living quarters and the other hauls equipment. The two that are always hauling have way more power, but they suffer coolant losses from either headgaskets or egr cooler. Either way I wouldn't say the 6.0's were exactly great, they have good power and when they're not all carboned up they run good. Ever seen the insides of a 6.0 intake...not good. Work them hard.
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Wow that looks alot better with tint
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Just noticed the color matched grill, looks great.
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Truck looks a hell of a lot better Zach. Your truck obviously runs good and I understand they are hit and miss with their issues. The one I was looking at obviously wasn't worth a crap. lol.
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Guess your not on the powerstroke forums....your so wrong lmao I have only heard of the First Engines having some issues but that was cleared up very fast by Ford
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Highest miles on a 6.4? Interim from Navistar, nope, this one is a strong motor!! - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
I did my research on FTE. I didn't bother with Powerstroke.org. And that thread only has 3 pages and not even half of the replies are guys posting what their mileage is. My point is, the trucks are so hit and miss with which ones have problems and the ones that don't. They are nice trucks inside and out and the engine runs strong. I just don't think I could trust it to run a business.
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I did my research on FTE. I didn't bother with Powerstroke.org. And that thread only has 3 pages and not even half of the replies are guys posting what their mileage is. My point is, the trucks are so hit and miss with which ones have problems and the ones that don't. They are nice trucks inside and out and the engine runs strong. I just don't think I could trust it to run a business.
You need to look at FTN and ORG.

Its the early trucks, not a hit or miss....Sorry you feel that way have fun with the doodge
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I know of at least 3 2005-2006 6.0's that all have issues with the cooling systems. The trucks all receive dealer maint., one never pulls anything and has very little power always having issues with egr cooler and egr valve, the other 2 pull good sized loads, one a 25' horse trailer with living quarters and the other hauls equipment. The two that are always hauling have way more power, but they suffer coolant losses from either headgaskets or egr cooler. Either way I wouldn't say the 6.0's were exactly great, they have good power and when they're not all carboned up they run good. Ever seen the insides of a 6.0 intake...not good. Work them hard.
The same can be said of the 7.3L and most diesels, in order to get you best bang for the buck, you have to work them. I have watched several 7.3's go down that way, the owners were just driving them because they liked the sound, well lets just say don't just love them for the sound. On the flip side, if you work them, 6.0 and 7.3, you get your best return. The problem again with the 6.0 was that it had not been around long enough to receive recognition after the bugs were worked out. And you cant really say the 7.3 did not have bugs, we had a 95, and it had its fair share (early days, same as 03 era 6.0's). even our 99 era 7.3 had some gremlins rolling with it, the whole super duty growing pains era...but you oversee that because of how long it lasted, and the crap it pulled. work it, then you get your best result. the 6.4's will be no diffrent in time...except that they got axed even quicker than the 6.0's. but if you know what to look for, and do several mods to them, the 6.4's are great, and so are the 6.0's.
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Looks like a new truck with tint!




That looks sick with the tint man!
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You need to look at FTN and ORG.

Its the early trucks, not a hit or miss....Sorry you feel that way have fun with the doodge
lol. I knew you'd like that.

There's only one way to settle this Josh. Make a poker tournament!!!
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lol. I knew you'd like that.

There's only one way to settle this Josh. Make a poker tournament!!!
lmao - Ill take your money....again
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Yeah looks really good with the tint
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hey they arent forcing me out yet!
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hey they arent forcing me out yet!
I got a Bedroom for ya....But I charge rent
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hey they arent forcing me out yet!
obv your comfy there cause last time i saw you were trying to get your own place lol, this gem sure wont make that any easier, although i would do the same......
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i do yard work for rent?

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obv your comfy there cause last time i saw you were trying to get your own place lol, this gem sure wont make that any easier, although i would do the same......
im in no rush thats for sure.
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i do yard work for rent?
How can you Gimp?
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