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2wd Trailmaster Discussion

So, we were talking about stacking the trailmaster lift on the drop spindles for the front on a 2wd edge (torsion bar) truck.

I think i may be the test dummy...so that will equal how many inches of lift is the question?

Cost?

Will it work?

Will it put extended wear on the tie rods (they are stretched out already...)?

Is it safe?

Superlift? Same thing right?


I'll be the test dummy, if anyone stumbles across a cheap trailmaster...lmk
 
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NO NO NO NO N ON O NO NO NON ON ON ONO NO N ON ONON ON ON have you seen pics of how this lift works hack no... NO NO NO
 
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Originally Posted by Redneckstone
NO NO NO NO N ON O NO NO NON ON ON ONO NO N ON ONON ON ON have you seen pics of how this lift works hack no... NO NO NO
Ok, someone was talking about it in another thread. Why wouldn't it work...it's just drop bracketry, and it uses your stock spindles...

Please explain.
 
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its not a hard core wheelers kit, but depends on how you use your truck. it works similar to the SL kit, except they extend the spindle up with a bracket instead of buildin a completely new unit. they have brackets to take care of the tie rod issue.

should be roughly 7.5" lift

i know where you can get one $600 plus shipping if its still around, and she will ship it.
 
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Originally Posted by gumby
its not a hard core wheelers kit, but depends on how you use your truck. it works similar to the SL kit, except they extend the spindle up with a bracket instead of buildin a completely new unit. they have brackets to take care of the tie rod issue.

should be roughly 7.5" lift

i know where you can get one $600 plus shipping if its still around, and she will ship it.
Hmmm...its something to think about.

How safe would it be though? I mean 600 for 4" more lift would be good IMO. I just don't know if thats pushing it? I mean I could clear 38's most likely with that setup...maybe I'd stick with 37's and some gap though...I dunno
 
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i was thinking about the same thing but i am wondering if it would work too
 
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i was thinking about the same thing but i am wondering if it would work too
I'd do it in a heartbeat...I can use all the extra clearance I can get!

I am not wheeling her that hard anymore so I don't mind the ball joint spacers either.

I just want the extra lift.
 
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the only issue i see is that the attachement to the top of the spindle is designed for the shape of the stock spindle. if the aftermarket spindle has a different shape, you may be in for some slight mods to get it all attached securely. im pagin scottyG, he found some good pics of the attachement point at the spindle, please hold.....
 
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Originally Posted by gumby
the only issue i see is that the attachement to the top of the spindle is designed for the shape of the stock spindle. if the aftermarket spindle has a different shape, you may be in for some slight mods to get it all attached securely. im pagin scottyG, he found some good pics of the attachement point at the spindle, please hold.....
10-4...

I don't mind modding it, I had to drill my spindle out a little for the bj to fit right anyway...just a 1/16th though
 
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the trailmaster uses almost the exact same setup as the superlift except for a balljoint spacer. Which allows you to reuse your stock spindles (OR if your luckly, you can use lifting spindles on a 2wd and have a double suspension Lift)


Now, i know people say dont use it, But if you have a street queen with little to no offroading, this is a perfect setup. However, buying one new, its the same price as a superlift, and for a 4x4, its not worth the cost


Now, the balljoint spacer is a square piece, that has a hole ontop that your balljoint slids into, and a stud on the bottom that slids onto your spindle. And also has ubolts that clamp around the spindle to hold it together better.... Now the down side of this, it has round ubolts, so if you are using an aftermarket fabtech spindle that is square uptop, you will have to find different spindles, or square ubolts.

Also, haveing a 4inch lift ontop of a 3inch spindle will defienetly require some looking at the brake lines, I doubt theres enough slack for 7inches of suspension. But its an easy fix with some custom lines (just not super cheap)

Now for some pics

Here is a great pic of the balljoint spacers attached to the factory spindle
 
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Wow, this looks really do-able.

What about hte tie rods? Mine look pretty stretched out already...

And brake lines, all I need is some help finding thhe product number from summit
 
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the tie rods get relocated lower, same as the lower arms and tbars

not a pretty pic, but it shows the stock and new parts
 

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ya you still have to drop your crossmember like a superlift/rcd
 
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definatley do-able, IMO.

im glad you kept track of all the pics scott. i threw em all away after i sent em to you
 
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this MIGHT explain the tierods better

 
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wow that looks interesting
 
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I'm kinda confused on the tie rods? It drops the whole rack down? or is it like an extension?
 
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thats a ood pic there. shows how everything is mounted and how it works together. so you can see how it should still work, even with a lift spindle.
 
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it is a drop bracket. the rack stays in the stock position.
 
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Originally Posted by Redneckstone
wow that looks interesting
lol, that's what i was thinking. haha
 
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hmmmm...if I can get a decent used kit for a decent price, I'll try it.

I just don't want to spend 1k on it, b/c that would be how much my SAS w/ a little d30 would cost ME...
 
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Originally Posted by Gay-briel
this MIGHT explain the tierods better

heres it in paint, to show the tie rod relocation
 

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Ahhh, I see, so that whole assembly moves so the tie rod can move...I get it!!!
 
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I was initially going to give you a negatory on that one, but darn it, it looks like it will fit... looks interesting...

How are those Endlinks? I know there were some Superlift guy's having problems with the endlinks and ended up chaning them to RCD endlinks (??)
 
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