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I drove my uncle's flex with the ecoboost a while ago and that thing was FAST. I would go for the 5.0L still just because of the sound... especially if they make around the same MPG. The 5.0L would definitely give more SPG (smiles per gallon) when you step on it (sound-wise)
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If I was buying a new truck it would be an ecoboost. The way gas prices are going, smaller boosted motors are going to be more and more. I chuckle every time I see somebody say how unreliable the turbo's are, and then turn around and cream their pants over a diesel. Besides, why wouldn't you want a v6 that could tow 11000 pounds?
dude the ecoboost doesnt get that great of mileage... being a v6, sure it would be better, but slap on the turbos and its not that much better mpg wise. 1, maybe 2 better.
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Just because the Eco has a turbo doesn't make it equivalent to a turbo diesel
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the issue with the ecoboost is unless you leave it stock you wont see stellar mpgs. the reviews are pretty split. a lot of people get high teens low twentys, some people get v8 numbers. if you put bigger tires on it or even think about putting a trailer behind it, the mpg tanks. and tanks hard, like 8-10 mpg towing. if i was going for a new 150 it would be the 5.0 or a 6.2 everyone seems to forget they put the 6.2 in the 150's but its mostly in the platinums and the raptors
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I don't think anyone is forgetting the 6.2, I just don't think that is what most people are looking to go out and buy...I might get ripped on but I don't think it's that practical. Cool, Yes. Powerful, heck yes. In certain instances or for the right person they are awesome! Not something that the ordinary person is going to look at as an option though. That's just what I think.

The 5.0 and the 3.5 are more or less a toss up. Just like on this thread. It just depends on what you like and/or what one you find better in general, or for yourself.
Shoot even the 3.7's are cool/great little motor. Ford has done excellent with the new f150's. I can completely and honestly say that I like every motor available in the f150.
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I have the 6.2 in my Super duties.
Its a great engine, but not for towing everyday like i do. these things get 16mpg at best in the city.
(mind you, they're towing 24ft trailers, loaded to the limit)
If your going to tow something like that, you should get a diesel, my super duties should be diesels, but the cards i was dealt gave me Gas guzzling 6.2s

Take it from somebody who works for Ford. Don't buy the Ecoboost if you plan to tow regularly. the Turbo just can't handle it. i know thats what the warranty is for, but do you want to be at the dealer every month getting a turbo put in it?

Thats what it boils down to if you ask me. The Ecoboost is great for bigger cars/suv's/trucks that don't need to haul. if you want a truck to mall crawl with, get the ecoboost.
If you want a great all around truck, to do truck like things. stick with the 5.0. the new 5.0's are bullet proof as far as we can tell (trust me, we've tried to break them)
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^^^ haha I guess that's the perks of working at a dealership....So the turbo's themselves are the downfall of the motor's? A lot of you guys have said they have problems. :-( Makes me sad. I was really hoping that they would turn out to be great little motors. Hmmm I guess once they mess with a bit more they might get better?
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I'm a bit higher than the dealership.
From what i've heard, the Turbo's can't handle the strain and they blow some valve or port inside the turbo itself. thus, you get a spooling turbo with no pressure.
I think Ford Jumped the gun with the whole, lets try and tow with turbo's thing.
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Hmmm, that's disappointing. :-(

So it's probably a wastegate problem huh? Don't really see what else it could be unless it's the seals itself, or maybe one of the feed lines going to/in the turbo. Damn, now I'm curious. Looks like a whole morning of seaching to see what's up. :-/

Are they journal/thrust bearing or ballbearing turbo's? Ceramic??? Anyone know?

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I have the 6.2 in my Super duties.
Its a great engine, but not for towing everyday like i do. these things get 16mpg at best in the city.
(mind you, they're towing 24ft trailers, loaded to the limit)
If your going to tow something like that, you should get a diesel, my super duties should be diesels, but the cards i was dealt gave me Gas guzzling 6.2s

Take it from somebody who works for Ford. Don't buy the Ecoboost if you plan to tow regularly. the Turbo just can't handle it. i know thats what the warranty is for, but do you want to be at the dealer every month getting a turbo put in it?

Thats what it boils down to if you ask me. The Ecoboost is great for bigger cars/suv's/trucks that don't need to haul. if you want a truck to mall crawl with, get the ecoboost.
If you want a great all around truck, to do truck like things. stick with the 5.0. the new 5.0's are bullet proof as far as we can tell (trust me, we've tried to break them)
Basically this is the flat out full truth the 3.5 is a yuppy motor meant for the person that want a full size and does nothing but go to and from work. and maybe take their wife to go to the nursery to get some plants for their yard and get good mileage from their full size.
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Another vote for 5.0... I know a couple unhappy Ecoboost owners!
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Awesome to see I'm not the only one that's not sold on the 3.5 .

I've found one that I like and I'm heading to the dealership today to hopfully pick up a 2012 F-150 XLT Lariat 4x4 5.0 with all the bells and whistles including a locking rear, I blame the wife for convincing me to get the dual zone auto climate, and the a/c - heated seats...She says its for the dogs sitting in the back , but I'm wondering what they have to do with the heated / cooled seats...

All said and done its about $2k more than I was looking to spend but it more than makes up for it.
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Changing vote to 5.0... didn't know the Ecoboost had so many problems with the turbos, and definitely didn't know towing kills said turbos.
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I got the ecoboost and my dad has the 5.0 mpg is about the same on both 18 mpg on the highway doing 70mph and 13 in the city. If your not going to be towing a whole lot I would go with the 5.0 the eco is better if your going to be towing a lot. I guess I am one of the lucky ones I have not had any problems with my 3.5 and I have been kinda hard on it since I got it.
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I think you have that backwards, 3.5 if you don't tow a lot
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I have the 6.2 in my Super duties.
Its a great engine, but not for towing everyday like i do. these things get 16mpg at best in the city.
(mind you, they're towing 24ft trailers, loaded to the limit)
If your going to tow something like that, you should get a diesel, my super duties should be diesels, but the cards i was dealt gave me Gas guzzling 6.2s

Take it from somebody who works for Ford. Don't buy the Ecoboost if you plan to tow regularly. the Turbo just can't handle it. i know thats what the warranty is for, but do you want to be at the dealer every month getting a turbo put in it?

Thats what it boils down to if you ask me. The Ecoboost is great for bigger cars/suv's/trucks that don't need to haul. if you want a truck to mall crawl with, get the ecoboost.
If you want a great all around truck, to do truck like things. stick with the 5.0. the new 5.0's are bullet proof as far as we can tell (trust me, we've tried to break them)
My Ecoboost for work has constant load on it, ever since day one with no issues, we have 6 of them now, I work for Graveling/Excavation company. Mine has 800lbs in the bed daily and the other half of the miles are pulling a skid-steer, mini excavator ect. Ive had mine for over a year and have 60,000 miles on it already. My boss has been very happy with them, cause diesels are so expensive to maintain.
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I would choose the ecoboost as well. I know a couple of guys with them and they've had no problems.

The only thing that turns me off of the ecoboost is it's name. I feel like being green is a scam and the name of the engine almost turns me off of it lol.
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I think you have that backwards, 3.5 if you don't tow a lot
Nope 3.5 has more low end torque and keeps the torque up though the rpm range. I have towed with both the 5.0 and the 3.5 the 3.5 is far better at it then the 5.0. My 3.5 has a higher tow rating also than my dads 5.0 both are the same truck only he has the 5.0.
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OK Picked up a 2012 5.0 Lariat DBP Crew cab 4x4 <- rear , Leather heated and cooled seats dual zone a/c , sliding rear window , whole bunch of stuff minus the folding mirrors, sunroof and nav screen package.. I have a GPS that cost 1/10th of the price of the nav crap so no thanks... but it has built in nav that gives turn by turn directions just no screen.

no running boards so the wife has to jump to get in , the shorter of the two beds available - that will take some time to get used to. But since the back seat area is big enough to camp out in I think I will be fine.

Drove a little over 100 miles to get it for the price I liked, about $6k less than the local dealer , they filled up the tank and its a 36 gallon tank cost them about $120 but I averaged 20.2 mpg on the trip home... 95 hwy/ 5 city....

The dancing chicken doesn't cover how I feel tonight.... But its close ...

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Pics in the morning....
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Finally picked up my F-150

2012 DBP Lariat 4x4 5.0 Crewcab

Went for the majority of the options as I don't plan on getting rid of this truck for 10 + years - as I do with all of my vehicles.

Heated / a/c Leather seats full center console , sliding rear window, Locking rear diff.

Didn't get the nav screen or sunroof - I never use a sunroof so no need for it, and I have a gps that was about 1/10th of the nav screens price so no thanks...

Moving up from a 2003 Ranger Edge 4.0

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Truck looks good and that is some good mpg for not being broken in yet should get even better has it gets more miles on it I have seen 5.0 get in to the 25s if driven right. Love the color I wish the FX4s would come in it.
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Sweet! I'm jealous, it looks good man.
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That is a nice pickup! I have an '02 Ranger XLT with the 4.0 and I can't even get my mpg's that high! I do believe, like you said, that you will have that pickup for at least 10 years!
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That's awesome dude. Congrats.
P.S. Leave it stock. Or at least stock-ish. Nice comfortable daily. Ahhhhhh lol
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