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Old 02-04-2010
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new tire discussion...

since zach put in this new section i figured id move it over here. so im wantin some new tires soon, but prices for 18s are CRAZY. so prolly not gonna get the km2s now (even though they look BA) i think im gonna get the toyo terra graps since theyre like 100 per tire cheaper. are they pretty good tires? makes me wonder since theyre sooo cheap even though the brand is a good name. are they decent off road? not really mudding but just off the beatin path for when i go hunting and fishing. and since im goin AT tread do you think i could go a 35" tire. i dont pull more than a 15" trailer w/ 2 atvs very often so im not too worried if its somewhat of a dog pulling. thanks in advance
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rngprerunner has his on his 150, looks great on there. I think hes running the 325/75/18s, which are 35x13
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The 18" rims really make tires expensive... especially when you have to load range "E" tires at a minimum of 65psi or the TPMS nanny will drive you nuts!

You might want to check out the Goodyear Silent Armor if you're looking for an all-terrain tread. My dad got some after running good, old-fashioned BFG ATs and says they hook up just as good off road are seem to do better on wet roads.

I've heard a bunch of mixed reviews about the Terra Grappler, some good and some not so good. They are definitely priced competitively, though.
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I just got the Terra Grappler MT's...



They make it in a

285/65/18E =32.5x11

295/70/18E =34x11.5

and the 35x12.5

I paid 1200 out the door for my 35's.
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ive heard good things bout the terras. and im not sure if its the terras or the toyo ats but one of em i was told sucked dick in the rain.

those trails look amazing!!!!!! 1200 is not bad at all, even though i paid that for wheels AND tires for my ranger. lol. got any pics that show the tread itself?
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I remember dropping $650 for a set of 32x11.5R15 BFG MTs for the Ranger. It about made me dizzy to write a check for over $600 for a set of tires in 2001.

Fast forward 8 years and $600 seems like nothing (scary, I know). I wrote a check out for $1400 for my LT285/75/18 Goodyear MT/R kevlars. I almost threw up in my mouth when I saw those tires were $300+... each.

Let us know what you decide.
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ive heard good things bout the terras. and im not sure if its the terras or the toyo ats but one of em i was told sucked dick in the rain.

those trails look amazing!!!!!! 1200 is not bad at all, even though i paid that for wheels AND tires for my ranger. lol. got any pics that show the tread itself?
It's the toyo AT's that suck in the rain...I had them

The tread kinda reminds me of the BFG KM 2's, these tires have a nice hum to them...not to loud, just enough to let you know that they are there.




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^^^ have you have to chance to test them yet chris?
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I dont know if I'll be any help but I just picked up a set of Goodyear's Dura Trac's and they seem to be a very decent all around tire. They dont look as agressive as the Terra's but I think they look good. Very little whine, and some pretty awesome grip in the dirt. I really had to work at it to get the back end to spin at all. They were pretty good in the snow, but you need at least a half inch on the ground to get them to grip well. Dry pavement is excellent. Even cornering is really firm.

I dont know pricing for that big of size, but I know there is a $20 dollar rebate for them through Goodyear. They had pretty good reviews on TireRack.com.





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my buddy that i graduated with put those duratracs on his 07 f350 the other day after his buckshots blewout. lol. he said he likes em so far. im lookin to spend 1300 or less so km2s and **** are outta the question. and yea, the trail graps look like the bfg mudders before the KM2s. i guess KM1s? and they look BA on that addict rim. id LOVE to get those trails wrapped around the polish/black addicts. *jizz*
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got a price on the nitto terra and trail grapplers. 325/65/18 (35x13) terras were $1157 and the trail graps were $1369. its only a $212 difference, but i can get the trail grapplers quicker and easier than the others bc theyre cheaper. not really sure what i wanna do w/ my tax money when i get it back. get new tires, or get a toolbox and a gooseneck hitch, or get a programmer, or hella headlights and smoked recon led third breaklight. or just get different rims and wait for tires. or just save it. idk what i wanna do. i kinna wanna get new tires bc the ones i have only have like 10k left or so that way i would have stocks as backup and for when i trade it in in the late future. and so i can have a bigger set and ride a little higher. the stock bfgs suck anyways
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so how do the 35 trail graps fit? need any trimming or rubbing? and will just a level kit like mine work?
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so how do the 35 trail graps fit? need any trimming or rubbing? and will just a level kit like mine work?
Yes, they still rub at full lock though...price you have to pay to look pimp...lol!
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If you are pulling I would go with the 285 or 295. The 295 would be a great fit on a leveled truck and probably not rub at all. So the 295 trail grapplers get my vote.
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If you are pulling I would go with the 285 or 295. The 295 would be a great fit on a leveled truck and probably not rub at all. So the 295 trail grapplers get my vote.
I agree, I was going to get that size. But I plan on adding a SL and new wheels, so I went with the 35's. I think 295's would be perfect for you, Zach.
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I agree, I was going to get that size. But I plan on adding a SL and new wheels, so I went with the 35's. I think 295's would be perfect for you, Zach.
Same here. Although now I have decided whenever I get the superlift I am going with 17" wheels. No matter, I'll probably have the KM2s mostly worn before I do anything. If a job opportunity comes up that allows me to move back to the PNW I won't be lifting for a while though anyway! lol
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Same here. Although now I have decided whenever I get the superlift I am going with 17" wheels. No matter, I'll probably have the KM2s mostly worn before I do anything. If a job opportunity comes up that allows me to move back to the PNW I won't be lifting for a while though anyway! lol
I thought about downsizing to 17's, the cost of 18" tires are about the same as 20's. What I dont understand is 35/12.5/17 terra grappler MT's at Discount Tire are the same price ($297) as the 35/12.5/18, but there is a $60 difference between the 17" ($313) and 18" ($373) KM2's. So, a total difference of $240...Thats why I chose the Terra grappler MT's.
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so how much diff in size are the 35s and 295s? i was lookin at the size specs and the 295s seem to be what most other brands call 35s, at least height wise. if i get the gryphon would it help w/ the 35s when towing? i mean i wont be towing more than a 15ft trailer w/ 2 atvs more than once a month. most about 90% of the time will just be DD. itll prolly depend on price difference too on which size. im prolly gonna shop around for a while. it wont be till late spring/early summer before i get them anyways.
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Honestly the height is probably very close to the same, but being a little more narrow will also give you a better wear pattern and better clearance even if they aren't much shorter.
The gryphon will help in some ways, but there really is no masking the higher final drive ratio other than re-gearing. You will get better power with the gryphon but still be under-geared a bit. A ton of people do it and it works though, it just depends on what you are expecting from it.
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See I liked my 325/60/18s for towing, no power issues and towed awesome.

I went to a 325/65/18 Mud Tires that weight a ton and what a difference it makes.

id try to stick to a light weight load range E tire with smaller lugs or closer to an all terrain tire.
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what size is the 325/65/18? idno what ill do yet cuz like i said, itll prolly be a few months. the cheapest ive found them for was in the 1300s so im gonna have to save. only 2 places that ik of in town carry the nittos. im most likely gonna get a gryphon w/ some tax money i get back. how hard is it to order?
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its not hard to order at all. fill out the PDF send it to them via email. Give them a call.

as for the size a 325/65/18 is like a 35x12.5x18
a 325/60/18 is a 33.8x12.8x18 (roughly)
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oo. ok
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i put new tires on my 150 about a year ago i only went with 265 75 17 as i was only stock hieght then and i put bridge stone dueller revos on and i love the tires good on ice and snow and aggressive enough for the light off road i do Bridgestone Dueler A/T REVO with Uni-T
the only issue is that the biggest they come in is 285 75 17 and for the 265s that i put on my truck was about 1200 i did my own mounting and balancing though
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how do you guys think a 325/65/18 terra grappler would fit? i went down to the tire shop yesterday to get a quote. the guy called up his dealer or whoever and told him i had a 07 f150 with a leveling kit and that he needs a price on a 35/12.50/18 and the guy said it wouldnt fit and gave him the price for the 33/12.50. such bull**** if you ask me. considering the fact ive seen most of yall with that set up and a few around town like that and theres no issues with the right tires
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