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Not to sound like an old timer sittin' on the back porch, but after installing new snow tires this winter, and driving some of the same roads as I do every year, I find that tires make the most difference, not wanting to end up in the ditch last year or this year. The new tires, Dunlop RVXT's are TERRIBLE compared to my old "Winter King" brand tires I had never even heard of before and bought mounted, almost new off CL for $300 a few years ago. Now I'm stuck with some $600+ summer tires. Yay. And yes, they have the Rubber Association of Canada severe weather Snow ratings. So yeah, driver input, but definitely tires.
I'm not disagreeing that good tires make the difference, cause they are right up there with the driver. But at the end of the day I don't care how good your tires are in the snow/ice if you can't drive in the winter, you can't drive in the winter. If you are a decent or good winter drive I'm sure snow tires still help immensely.
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David Y, agree completely w/ sipes and softer rubber, especially the sipes. Seems to me that traction bars perpendicular to the direction of travel help out immensely. Where in the interior are you.
On the other hand, trying hard enough, one can put anything in the ditch.
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Where in the interior are you.
On the other hand, trying hard enough, one can put anything in the ditch.
Central/Northern.

For sure. At the beginning of each winter, it's mostly SUVs and pickups (usually 4x4) that are in the ditch or worse.

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ive got a 2wd 3.0 extended cab. in the winter i throw on a hard tonnuea, and 3 rims and tires under it. i have zero issues. i drift alot on purpose, and have hit a few snow banks, but no real problems just going.
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Not to **** everyone off again.. but about that tire pressure snow thing? How come rally cars run SUPER skinny tires in the snow, and big giant fatties in the dry? They must be wrong right? 70 years of racing must be totally wrong.....

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im not reading 5 pages, but what i get from page 1 is that people have trouble in 2wd in snow...my last truck(lifted red 2wd in avatar) ws crappy, cuz its open diff. as long as you have the right amount of weight and know how much gas to give...then your fine. you can also push the E brake down a little and then its a ghetto limited slip, giving power to that wheel, and the other wheel as well. i try not to use 4x4 in my truck now..and i still get far in 2wd like the pic i will post after this.only had to use 4x4 to back out cuz i tried turning my wheel and backing out
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I'm not disagreeing that good tires make the difference, cause they are right up there with the driver. But at the end of the day I don't care how good your tires are in the snow/ice if you can't drive in the winter, you can't drive in the winter. If you are a decent or good winter drive I'm sure snow tires still help immensely.
Its true, just like someone else said, you can put anything into a ditch if you have a bit to much fun. But the difference between a winter tire and a A/T (or all season) tire in cold snowy crappy weather are night and day when it comes to traction, stopping distance and handling which can help even the worst winter driver stay out of the ditch.
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5 pages later and this guy still hasnt gotten the hint. ok so i have some advice on the back tires not breaking loose. put 2000 pounds in the back, and give er hell. might work. just might.
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5 pages later and this guy still hasnt gotten the hint. ok so i have some advice on the back tires not breaking loose. put 2000 pounds in the back, and give er hell. might work. just might.
LOL, i have 100lbs of sand + 4 tires and could barely break loose this morning in the 2 inches of snow in my work parking lot.

I rock a set of Yokohama Geolander A/T-S size 30x9.5 r15
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Not to **** everyone off again.. but about that tire pressure snow thing? How come rally cars run SUPER skinny tires in the snow, and big giant fatties in the dry? They must be wrong right? 70 years of racing must be totally wrong.....

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dry...
At least someone on here knows their stuff
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With an extra leaf spring, 7 bags of tube sand over the rear axles and some Firestone Winterforce snow tires my 2wd Ranger only fishtails when I want it to, or if it's really icy. The snow tires were less expensive than all season tires. They are noisy as heck on dry pavement and tend to wander around on roads with rain grooves. But that's a fair trade off for having good control in the snow and ice.
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Yeah that's the only thing I hate about winter tires. They are great with 2+ inches of snow and on ice but it is December 31st and 40 degrees here in Ohio. So the roads have been clear for weeks and people with winter tires are cooking through tread.
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5 pages later and this guy still hasnt gotten the hint. ok so i have some advice on the back tires not breaking loose. put 2000 pounds in the back, and give er hell. might work. just might.
Mature as always.
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ist not just about ice or snow... it has a lot to do with the temperature outside...winter tire will react better to cold temperature then all season. the tire wont freeze up and become hard, which can affect badly safety and handling
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Mature as always.
You're the grown *** man who has lives in Ohio who is afraid to drive his own car with snow on the ground. Hundreds of thousands of northern drivers drive rear wheel drive trucks and SUVs all winter with zero issues. Last year when I was 16 (first winter on the road), I drove essentially the same truck as you, but manual not auto, with regular all season tires. I not once got stuck or put it in a ditch. Did it fish tail all over the place, you bet your *** it did, but not once did I lose control enough to endanger myself, my vehicle, or anyone else. I've actually spun out more in the rain than I have in snow.
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You're the grown *** man who has lives in Ohio who is afraid to drive his own car with snow on the ground. Hundreds of thousands of northern drivers drive rear wheel drive trucks and SUVs all winter with zero issues. Last year when I was 16 (first winter on the road), I drove essentially the same truck as you, but manual not auto, with regular all season tires. I not once got stuck or put it in a ditch. Did it fish tail all over the place, you bet your *** it did, but not once did I lose control enough to endanger myself, my vehicle, or anyone else. I've actually spun out more in the rain than I have in snow.

Im more northern that you, so i'll add something.
Me and my buddies actually have a running bet to see who can go the longest without turning on 4x4. you lose if you get stuck in a ditch, turn on 4x4 or do more than 270 degrees. the only Catch-22 we have is: no weight. sure, sounds stupid but if you know how to drive, you should be fine, I am not saying you don't know how to drive, however, i am saying if your complaining about driving in the winter, you haven't had enough experience.
the whole winter tire thing - my winter tires are BFG all terrains, which have lately became the al year tires becasue i only drive this truck in the winter. i have to say they hold up alrite and i'm not burning thru rubber.
my first winter on the road i had a 98 Dodge Dakota r/t. long story short, i ended up rolling the truck (stupid dodge's) because i didn't know how to drive in the winter, if your complaining now, just hang up the keys.
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the whole winter tire thing - my winter tires are BFG all terrains, which have lately became the al year tires because i only drive this truck in the winter. i have to say they hold up alright and i'm not burning thru rubber.
I agree with everything you said except this ^^

BFG All-Terrain T/A KOs are all terrain tires, not winter tires. They do not have wear issues like winter tires do on dry pavement. They are completely different than winter tires and they are meant to be driven year round. Winter tires are not. The rubbed, tread, and build of the tires are completely different.
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It was all i could afford at the time. otherwise i would have a set of winter tires on these rims, and my summer rims would have all seasons on them.
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if it where me i would find a large parking lot with nothing in it and have some fun lerning to countersteer and skid controle. according to your tread you are driving slow however you may be too tence driving in snow / ice and the worst thing you can do is get tence. i have a ranger 2wd reg cab stepside. i drive it 45 miles one way to work in NE Ohio. you just get used to it and don't panic when you slide. also if you are having traction problems put a gallen of bleach in the truck. if you get stuck and are just spinning the tire. pore the bleach on the rear tires then apply just enough power to get out. the bleach will clean the tires and make the rubber sticky for a moment.
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You're the grown *** man who has lives in Ohio who is afraid to drive his own car with snow on the ground. Hundreds of thousands of northern drivers drive rear wheel drive trucks and SUVs all winter with zero issues. Last year when I was 16 (first winter on the road), I drove essentially the same truck as you, but manual not auto, with regular all season tires. I not once got stuck or put it in a ditch. Did it fish tail all over the place, you bet your *** it did, but not once did I lose control enough to endanger myself, my vehicle, or anyone else. I've actually spun out more in the rain than I have in snow.
Last time I checked I live in Virginia, not Ohio. Thanks for being an ******* anyway.
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Alrite Colonel, why can't you admit you don't know how to drive in the snow, its perfectly ok. we'll still accept you. maybe.
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i know you live in Virginia, i said i live in Ohio and i was only saying to go play in a parking lot to loosen up and have some fun in the snow. this was not ment as an offencive comment.
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why can't you admit you don't know how to drive in the snow
Jesus, I said that from the beginning. It was the whole point of this topic.

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Last time I checked I live in Virginia, not Ohio. Thanks for being an ******* anyway.
Sorry I failed at my geography. I thought you said you lived in Ohio somewhere in this thread. Must have been someone else.

Your welcome though, anytime.
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Nothing has been going right for me since they introduced that god damn grilled chicken.
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