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Old 11-05-2008
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4WD operation in snow...

I was just this morning reading in my local paper that snow is falling on the passes and ODOT is requiring traction devices, it got me to thinking. When traction devices are required ie chains, and one has a 4 wheel drive, on what wheels is it best to put the chains on? Rear? Front? Front, and rear? Or just break down and get those new AT tires I have had my eye on ? I am mostly just curious, but thought it would be interesting to hear from anyone who has had actual experience with 4wd rangers in snow. The last 4x4 I drove in the snow was a Hummer when I was in the army; and the last ranger I drove in snow was a 2wd.
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Just get yourself a solid pair of AT tires with 4wd and you'll be fine. I've never had a problem unless I was F'ing around.
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most people run them on he front for stearing but i have also seen people run them on all 4 wheels
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Last winter I routinely drove on snowmobile trails and still offroaded all winter long, even with snow up to the bumper. Newer all terrains were my tires. I never had any trouble on the road, and only really used 4x4 when pulling into traffic or when on unplowed roads in a snowstorm. Good tires and you'll be fine.
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A/T tires will be the best option. I've never had problems with snow and my A/T tires. we had 15.4 inches in a couple days, so they performed well. Which A/T tires do you have your eye on?
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Good all terrains and studding if necessary...that's all you really need if you've got 4 wheel drive.

And by "if necessary" i mean driving on iced over roads where they're not cleared/salted often enough
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im hoping hes looking at general grabber a/t 2s
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Just to clarify my post when I said ats I mean bfg ats.

Studding at tires on a 4x4 is overkill imo. If its icy all the time you should look at blizzaks or x ice latitudes. Even a studded set of cheaper winter tires won't compare to those two.
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BFG ATs and 4wd at all times. Never needed chains.
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In WA the traction stuff usually only applies to truck/trailers and 2wd vehicles. If they require chains on the pass here then A/Ts w/ 4wd are acceptable.... I've never had to use chains 'cause of that rule.
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BFG ATs and 4wd at all times. Never needed chains.
ditto... never had a problem with mine... just drive with some sense and you will be fine
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at least oregon lets you guys ride studs OR chains

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Studded snow tires are permitted in California from November 1 until April 30 each year. During this time, studded tires are permitted in any location within the state. Studded snow tires are not considered tire traction devices and may not be used in lieu of chains.
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R-1: Chains are required on all vehicles except passenger vehicles and light-duty trucks under 6,000 pounds gross weight and equipped with snow tires on at least two drive wheels. Chains must be carried by vehicles using snow tires. All vehicles towing trailers must have chains on one drive axle. Trailers with brakes must have chains on at least one axle.

R-2: Chains are required on all vehicles except four-wheel-drive vehicles under 6,500 pounds gross weight and equipped with snow tires on all four wheels. Chains for one set of drive wheels must be carried by four wheel-drive vehicles using snow tires.

R-3: Chains are required on all vehicles without exception.
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BFG ATs and 4wd at all times. Never needed chains.
Living in Chino Hills i dont see how you could need chains ;]
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Living in Chino Hills i dont see how you could need chains ;]
Well we don't get snow here at all but when I go to the mountains sometimes the roads have snow on them and 4wd with my BFGs work fine.
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Well we don't get snow here at all but when I go to the mountains sometimes the roads have snow on them and 4wd with my BFGs work fine.
I know i was giving you a hard time cause i know you live in CA.. but yes.. big bear gets snow. my first and only accident was there in the snow.
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i still gotta pick up some cables at harbor freight for the truck .... when i still lived down in napa and had hondas when id go up to the snow id just get off the highway at the checkpoints then get back on lol .... but from chico they check on SR-20 and theres no good way to go around ... plus i was spinnin donuts in a muddy field last weekend and figured if i can get sideways that easy on mud its probably even easier on snow.

gonna get some sandbags too ..... if its a good snowboard season this year ill be going at least 2x / month ... last year i went DURING finals lol
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i still gotta pick up some cables at harbor freight for the truck .... when i still lived down in napa and had hondas when id go up to the snow id just get off the highway at the checkpoints then get back on lol .... but from chico they check on SR-20 and theres no good way to go around ... plus i was spinnin donuts in a muddy field last weekend and figured if i can get sideways that easy on mud its probably even easier on snow.

gonna get some sandbags too ..... if its a good snowboard season this year ill be going at least 2x / month ... last year i went DURING finals lol
Hmm cables are a bad idea.. they are meant for more smaller vehicles.. and personally i have watched em snap and go through the fender of a 750 beamer..
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yea but arent cables less of a pain in the *** to put on?

and im sure you are all wondering why a guy who used to drive hondas has never put on chains before, well because they woulda hit the fender lol

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Don't use cable chains, they are garbage. They break all the time and they just plain don't work well...
Also don't run them just on the front. It's more likely to catch a brake line, also it will cause you to oversteer with no traction in the rear. If you start to slide your rear end will pass up the front.
Having said that, 4x4 and good tires work fine. I've gone through 18-24" of fresh snow just fine with 4x4 and aired down tires.
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hondas are FWD.. in utah NOONE uses chains or cables.. its not required and everyone just drives with out em.. and in most cases its fine because of plowing, 4wd or FWD..

Dont get me wrong i pulled like 3 cops out last year it was funny..

Only time i would use chains in like 3 feet of fresh or something if i was that determined.. but being a light truck the snow lifts it up anyways..


But yeah chains and cables not needed generally if you know how to drive...

"know how to drive" not in oriental vocab.. and that makes up like all of Southern Ca.
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A/T tires will be the best option. I've never had problems with snow and my A/T tires. we had 15.4 inches in a couple days, so they performed well. Which A/T tires do you have your eye on?
I was thinking of getting another set of Dick Cepek Mountain cat ETs (Clicky Linky) I had a set on my '96 but it got totaled before I could really test em out. Most folks I have talked to that run 'em say they are a really good tire for the money and perform well in snow, mud, and sand. The guys at Les Schwab say they run a long time on vehicles as light as our rangers which is good since they cost nearly a grand for a set of 4. A buddy of mine has a set on his full sized Silverado and he really likes them.
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I was thinking of getting another set of Dick Cepek Mountain cat ETs (Clicky Linky) I had a set on my '96 but it got totaled before I could really test em out. Most folks I have talked to that run 'em say they are a really good tire for the money and perform well in snow, mud, and sand. The guys at Les Schwab say they run a long time on vehicles as light as our rangers which is good since they cost nearly a grand for a set of 4. A buddy of mine has a set on his full sized Silverado and he really likes them.
Ha i thought Les Schwab was UTAH only. I like those tires though. Prices on them?
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With 39 years snow driving expereince, I am a firm believer that any vehicle in snow country should have at least 1 pair chains for emergencies. Two pairs work incredibly well, but not needed unless you are plowing or in serious drifts or somewhere else you shouldn't be. If I am going downhill and anticipate braking problems I put them on the rear. Otherwise, the front does offer excellent steering control.

I also have studded tires, and they are a great substitute for all but the most extreme conditions.
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i drove my 05 2wd with bald stock tires on it in the snow, just gotta know what your doing is all there is to it.
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"snowflake" 'd side tires = traction tires and they are "okay" by Dot to serve as a traction device. I'd just do tires.
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