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Old 12-02-2007
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If I'm not mistaken, newer Ford Manuals (06) say you can engage 4wd at ANY driving speed.
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Last night I had to use 4wd for the first time in my ranger since I've had it. It worked great in the driveway so I just left it in to drive on the snow covered roads. I was the only tracks on the road, and it was a road I didn't know very good. Anyhow, I was going up a hill and didn't spin once, I was like huh, works pretty good. Then, I started going up another hill, slightly steeper, and I started spinning. I've driven in snow a lot living in PA, and when your spinning up hill, in 4wd, its not good. I made it up eventually but thought, wow, my 4wd must really suck to spin on that hill. Then I got to a stop sign and pulled out real slow but still spun like crazy (as I watch a tarus drive past) And I'm like, hey, I have studded 33 12.5 ats and he has a tarus, why am I spining, I'm in 4wd. So I stop, put it in 2wd and pull out again, did the same, as expected, I then put it back in 4wd, pulled out without a tires spinning. So, my 4wd **** was turned to 4wd and my 4wd light was on, but I was in 2wd... explaining why I spun up the hill. But after I turned it in the second time, it stayed in till I got home and took it out. So I don't know what to think. If I'm out in the woods, climbing a long steep snow covered hill, I don't really want it to "jump" out of 4wd. Other than that, 4wd worked good...
It also might dpend on what kind of tires you have. If your tires have deep treads , such as a mud terrain tire, they will not work as good in snow as an all terrain.
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Transfer case isn't built to go over 45. The stress can cause it to grenade. It's cool to see, but a pain when it grenades

that is soo false.

you can shift in 4high at any speed.

i have proven this a 100 times.

firefighterjosh and i were running 85mph down the interstate on a dry summer day, flipped it in 4wd hi and ran it like that for a complete mile at 85 mph and shifted it back out. no issues. when i am driving 75mph on the interstate and infront of me i see where snow is blowing across the road i shift into 4wd go through the slick spot and shift back out... ive done it ever sense i have owned it.

i have posted this 100 times too, i am telling you any speed on an 01+ you can shift into 4wd hi.
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that is soo false.

you can shift in 4high at any speed.

i have proven this a 100 times.

firefighterjosh and i were running 85mph down the interstate on a dry summer day, flipped it in 4wd hi and ran it like that for a complete mile at 85 mph and shifted it back out. no issues.

i have posted this 100 times too, i am telling you any speed on an 01+ you can shift into 4wd hi.
haha I remember that....I was going to say I have done it many times with no issues. Hell I just did it last night down 30.
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It also might dpend on what kind of tires you have. If your tires have deep treads , such as a mud terrain tire, they will not work as good in snow as an all terrain.
I don't think that would make my 4wd work or not but I have 33 12.5 ats, a bfg at knock off called the Apache All terrain.

I didn't mind getting out to put in my hubs, kinda made me feel "official" LOL! Although the grease in my manual hubs froze and my manual hubs didn't work when it was really cold, then, I got stuck in my girlfriends driveway and I had to ask for salt, very embarassing. Expecially since she always made fun of my (at the time) bronco 2.

I just have crappy luck with 4wd!
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that is soo false.

you can shift in 4high at any speed.

i have proven this a 100 times.

firefighterjosh and i were running 85mph down the interstate on a dry summer day, flipped it in 4wd hi and ran it like that for a complete mile at 85 mph and shifted it back out. no issues. when i am driving 75mph on the interstate and infront of me i see where snow is blowing across the road i shift into 4wd go through the slick spot and shift back out... ive done it ever sense i have owned it.

i have posted this 100 times too, i am telling you any speed on an 01+ you can shift into 4wd hi.

you shift it to 4wd for snow blowing across the road? once your moving and still moving straight and steady on the gas its not gonna help..

it may have said you were in 4wd but it doesnt mean you were...
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Well, I did put in it once when I was out mudding, didn't need it though, so I couldn't tell if it worked or not. I'd like to do a manual hub conversion but I'm not real sure how to do it or what I need, I'm sure there is a write up on here if I look.

i'm sorry, but if you cant figure out how to pry off the old PVH hubs and slide/snap new manual hubs on... you shouldn't be doing much of anything, its realllllly easy
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I thought if you were going a certain speed and clicked it into 4wd it actually wouldn't engage until you slowed down even though it says 4wd.

I'm not sure but that is what I thought I read once. I would still be too scared to drive it past 45-50 in 4wd.
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you shift it to 4wd for snow blowing across the road? once your moving and still moving straight and steady on the gas its not gonna help..

it may have said you were in 4wd but it doesnt mean you were...
I was going about 50 - 60 MPH down the highway and my truck started to slid on the ice. Let off the gas, shifted into 4wd and not more problems. It was in 4wd.

And driving in 4wd does help alot more then 2wd steady on the gas
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I'm not sure but that is what I thought I read once. I would still be too scared to drive it past 45-50 in 4wd.
I ussually never go above 40 MPH in 4wd. No real reason too. But sometimes I got do it when the snow is deep. Or am on a fire call and the 4wd is just on for extra insurance
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that is soo false.

you can shift in 4high at any speed.

i have proven this a 100 times.

firefighterjosh and i were running 85mph down the interstate on a dry summer day, flipped it in 4wd hi and ran it like that for a complete mile at 85 mph and shifted it back out. no issues. when i am driving 75mph on the interstate and infront of me i see where snow is blowing across the road i shift into 4wd go through the slick spot and shift back out... ive done it ever sense i have owned it.

i have posted this 100 times too, i am telling you any speed on an 01+ you can shift into 4wd hi.

If you had to shift into 4wd doing 85, you were driving too fast for the conditions, but thats another issue in itself.

The transfer case isn't built to take that kind of load. Not only does it wear the internals prematurely, but it also poses a risk of grenading like I've been stating due to the high speed of the drive inside the transfer case.

I will say this, when you do blow it up, take a video for us to see. They're pretty damn cool to see blow up!
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I was going about 50 - 60 MPH down the highway and my truck started to slid on the ice. Let off the gas, shifted into 4wd and not more problems. It was in 4wd.

And driving in 4wd does help alot more then 2wd steady on the gas
so far with my experience in snow/ice not much at all helps in the ice.. maybe you just got out of it haha

and also if i was goin that fast, and hit ICE i would slow the hell down.
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so far with my experience in snow/ice not much at all helps in the ice.. maybe you just got out of it haha

and also if i was goin that fast, and hit ICE i would slow the hell down.

why would you be driving that fast to begin with?
4wd doesn't help with the ice, it gets you that much further into trouble. Firefighterjosh, you got lucky. Now do us all a favor and SLOW THE **** DOWN, DRIVE THE CONDITIONS, AND LEAVE 10 MINUTES EARLIER. It's not rocket science here people...

... as far as my use of 4wd in the snow, it's this extend, I'll use it to get started, once I have forward momentum I'll throw it back into 2wd. the only time I drive in 4wd is in deep snow that I have to break through, on the trail, and starting off.
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Shifting between 2WD (2WD high) and 4x4 (4WD high)
- move the 4WD control between 2wd and 4x4 high at a stop or any forward speed up to 55 mph (88km/h).

Note: Do not perform this operation if the rear wheels are slipping.
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why would you be driving that fast to begin with?
4wd doesn't help with the ice, it gets you that much further into trouble. Firefighterjosh, you got lucky. Now do us all a favor and SLOW THE **** DOWN, DRIVE THE CONDITIONS, AND LEAVE 10 MINUTES EARLIER. It's not rocket science here people...

... as far as my use of 4wd in the snow, it's this extend, I'll use it to get started, once I have forward momentum I'll throw it back into 2wd. the only time I drive in 4wd is in deep snow that I have to break through, on the trail, and starting off.
ok, my bad i wouldn't be
but if i WAS
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Originally Posted by Ranger 2004 Owner's Guide....

Shifting between 2WD (2WD high) and 4x4 (4WD high)
- move the 4WD control between 2wd and 4x4 high at a stop or any forward speed up to 55 mph (88km/h).

Note: Do not perform this operation if the rear wheels are slipping.

Just because you can shift into 4wd at 85 doesn't mean it's good for it and you should do it.
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If I'm not mistaken, newer Ford Manuals (06) say you can engage 4wd at ANY driving speed.
there is absolutely NO REASON you need 4wd at ANY speed... NO reason

if your goin that fast and need 4wd it ain't gonna help you, just keep on truckin 'cause 4wd ain't gonna save your *** when your doin 85 and you hit ice or snow wrong, hell it wont help if you hit it right.

if your goin for the wall, your goin for the wall. end of story.

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anyone feel like they have something to add?
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so far with my experience in snow/ice not much at all helps in the ice.. maybe you just got out of it haha

and also if i was goin that fast, and hit ICE i would slow the hell down.
Na it was mostly rain/wet....but for about 2 miles the salt trucks must have forgot to put down some salt and it got slick ina hurry
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rain....



rain and you put it in 4? if it was that bad, my previous statement about ice still stands
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why would you be driving that fast to begin with?
4wd doesn't help with the ice, it gets you that much further into trouble. Firefighterjosh, you got lucky. Now do us all a favor and SLOW THE **** DOWN, DRIVE THE CONDITIONS, AND LEAVE 10 MINUTES EARLIER. It's not rocket science here people...
I ussually do not go that fast, it was just a wet road (at the time) and I was keeping with traffic. Seen the semi wiggle in front of me I slowed and clicked 4wd and we all started to slow down.

I hate ice, Most my trip I was going barely above 30MPH in 4wd. But when traffic is going 50 - 60 you really have no choice. Its safer to just hang on for dear life then to have 30 other idiots plow into you.

But when the roads are just snow covered I ussually go 50MPH, I know my trucks limits, played in the snow many many times.



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... as far as my use of 4wd in the snow, it's this extend, I'll use it to get started, once I have forward momentum I'll throw it back into 2wd. the only time I drive in 4wd is in deep snow that I have to break through, on the trail, and starting off.
Could I ask why you do it like this?
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rain....



rain and you put it in 4? if it was that bad, my previous statement about ice still stands

Its hard to explain. It was crazinees. One minute its raining then all of a suddent its all frozen.


1 minute I would be going fine then the next there would be a mile of sheet ice.
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The thing about going 85 and clicking 4wd. Not sure which instant zach is talking about.

#1 we where coming home from SC, and in the mountains we all of a sudden hit a snow storm, let off the gas and clicked into 4wd.

#2 we missed a turn and how the roads where all shaped we just needed to cut accross a mediun. 4wd was just insurance.
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so neither time yall were just crusin at 85 and had to put it in 4? am i getting that right?
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so neither time yall were just crusin at 85 and had to put it in 4? am i getting that right?
Im not sure how fast he was going or even if he is talking about the instant I am....he will have to respond on that one


Edit: He said summer day....I got no clue now
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