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whats even better, And I have been thinking this, since I already have the 8.8 rear explorer end, I was wondering could i also do the mustang disk set up on it, would be nice if possible.
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whats even better, And I have been thinking this, since I already have the 8.8 rear explorer end, I was wondering could i also do the mustang disk set up on it, would be nice if possible.
No. In the Mustang brake how-to it shows why this isn't possible on a low budget. New caliper brackets would be required.
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Okay I'm trying to get the kit from my parents for christmas, I need some knowledgeable help...

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Ford Racing Rear Brake Rotor & Mounting Kit for 1994 thru 2004 Ford Mustang

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Ford Racing Special Edition Rear Calipers for 1994 thru 2004 Ford Mustang

will get me cobra rear brakes. But Korey says that Steeda isn't really worth the money, plus i'm personally interested in saving some $$ and having GT brakes since i have an additional set of 15 inch wheels
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Ford Racing M-2300-M - Ford Racing Mustang GT Rear Brake Bracket Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com

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????????????????????????? Can anyone please find me a set of rear GT calipers? I saw them costing about 320$ through summitracing due to core charges and they can go blow me i have no cores. And I'm not sure it was even the right item.

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Is this a simple way to adapt from ranger to mustang?

Thanks for your help guys, my parents are going to order the parts i need so i need to make sure its right the first time.
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Check Rockauto, they have '01 Cobra rear calipers for $92 ( and that's with the $40 core)
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ok cool I might be going GT though too....


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It's all about $$ and how much you wanna spend. If you've got the green burning a hole, just go Cobra. Just remember, everything is Cobra specific.

IDK if you wrote the things in the quote boxes or what.....but the Summit kit less calipers is what Grant/little brother got but he went Cobra(which is out of production from Ford now evidently). GT and v6 calipers are the same from what I've gathered. The Cobra's would be the same if it wern't for the vented rotors they use so the width has to be bigger to compensate. Therefore, again, if you go Cobra, everythings Cobra specific and it all depends on how much you budgeted.
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It's all about $$ and how much you wanna spend. If you've got the green burning a hole, just go Cobra. Just remember, everything is Cobra specific.

IDK if you wrote the things in the quote boxes or what.....but the Summit kit less calipers is what Grant/little brother got but he went Cobra(which is out of production from Ford now evidently). GT and v6 calipers are the same from what I've gathered. The Cobra's would be the same if it wern't for the vented rotors they use so the width has to be bigger to compensate. Therefore, again, if you go Cobra, everythings Cobra specific and it all depends on how much you budgeted.

Well im having a hard time finding what to get because Im thinking i want GT brakes just in case i have to use my 15x10 wheels. I did write the quotes, i was just trying to seperate the possible purchases. I can find all the hardware but having a hard time finding good deal on the GT calipers.
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We already know your blingin' panty dropping and leg spreadin' 18's will fit with the 'Bras. But in regards to 15x10's and those Cobra's, my steel 15x10 Daytona's cleared with flying colors. Aluminums may not clear....10" might, 8" doubtful....so it'll be really hit or miss. Best bet for spare wheel fitment AND pocket book weight would be to go GT.


TascaParts . com lists Base and GT Calipers for about $160 each including the $50 core. I bet I can get you a deal locally bra. I'll call and find out for ya. Also, you don't have to go new....Calipers tend to last the operating life of the vehicle.
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Got on a different browser that let me actually check RockAuto...


The one I'd go for is the Centric brand. It's what I run and their Posi Quiets is the only pads I'd ever run after having VERY good results from my first set of Posi Quiets. Already got 'em for when I do my rear Expo's on my 31spline.

First price is Caliper w/ core, second is core charge, third is total w/ core charge. This pic is chopped up via paint, but you get the point...
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Like I said earlier, I could see what kind of deal I can get for ya locally from FoMoCo.
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Just got done with my cobra brake swap. I went with the summit kit for the rotors and brackets for $180 got my calipers used for $60 then caliper brackets and pads were $90 brake lines diff fluid, brake fluid and hardware was around $100. all said and done $430 ish and its worth it just to be rid of those darn drum brakes.

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FYI 20in hardlines from any auto parts store wrok perfect with the Currie lines, no adapters and a perfect fit.

ps I know my truck is dirty still need to clean up the chassis.
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. Just remember, everything is Cobra specific.

GT and v6 calipers are the same from what I've gathered. The Cobra's would be the same if it wern't for the vented rotors they use so the width has to be bigger to compensate. Therefore, again, if you go Cobra, everythings Cobra specific and it all depends on how much you budgeted.
Cobra GT and base calipers are all the same the only thing different is the caliper bracket that mounts the caliper to the axle bracket. Auto zone has the cobra caliper bracketc online for $20 and yards around here sell calipers for 30-40 bucks.
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Cobra GT and base calipers are all the same the only thing different is the caliper bracket that mounts the caliper to the axle bracket. Auto zone has the cobra caliper bracketc online for $20 and yards around here sell calipers for 30-40 bucks.
Thanks for clearing that up. For some reason, I thought Grant had it plugged in my head that it's a specific caliper. Obviously YES for the COBRA logo on the face, but the caliper itself minus the logo, I thought they were the same.
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Thanks for clearing that up. For some reason, I thought Grant had it plugged in my head that it's a specific caliper. Obviously YES for the COBRA logo on the face, but the caliper itself minus the logo, I thought they were the same.
ya it confused the heck out of me trying to set my brakes up to. the cobra logo is on the front calipers the backs are just plane.
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ya it confused the heck out of me trying to set my brakes up to. the cobra logo is on the front calipers the backs are just plane.
****! THAT's where my confusion came from!!!!! *****!!!! lol. Cobra's are either Grey(or black?) or Red. Disregard my caliper comments above. lol.
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The vented Cobra rotors are also larger in diameter are they not? I thought Shane stated earlier that they were the same size, just thicker...



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Disc are great but how much stopping power do you need in the rear of a Ranger and how much will it handle without locking up ?
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The vented Cobra rotors are also larger in diameter are they not? I thought Shane stated earlier that they were the same size, just thicker...



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12" compared to 11" (GT/V6). Vented compared to Solid (GT/V6). Vented meaning the 'gills' between the inside and outside friction surfaces on the rotor. And this time, I'm talking specifically of rear brakes and not letting the front calipers toy with my mind! lol.



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Disc are great but how much stopping power do you need in the rear of a Ranger and how much will it handle without locking up ?
I've personally beat the living shiz out of my little brother's truck.....13" front Cobra's, 12" rear Cobra's, all under a little 2wd reg cab 4cyl 4whl ABS: NO LOCK UP. The m-effer just STOPS. It has enough stopping power to trip the low fuel light with a little over half a tank of gas when slamming 'em down to a stop.

If it were going to lock up, it would be on my little brothers light, tiny tire (26") truck.
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Disc are great but how much stopping power do you need in the rear of a Ranger and how much will it handle without locking up ?
My 2003 has 4 wheel discs (12" front, 11" rear, all vented) and no problems at all with lockup. The 2001+ 4WABS with electronic proportioning takes care of that. However, with an empty bed and the ABS disabled, the rears are far too strong and lock up easily, way before the fronts.
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My 2003 has 4 wheel discs (12" front, 11" rear, all vented) and no problems at all with lockup. The 2001+ 4WABS with electronic proportioning takes care of that. However, with an empty bed and the ABS disabled, the rears are far too strong and lock up easily, way before the fronts.
Wondered about the lock up empty, which is most of the time… is the "2001+ 4WABS with electronic proportioning” hard to install ?
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People just need to read the write up...it says what you need and what parts are model specific.

As far as i know, you can't buy any of the gt parts new (besides calipers).

The easiest thing to do would be buy the cobra brake kit from summit for 180, then you can get new calipers and pads for about 220 or so, then all you'd need are soft lines (20-40 depending on if you go with SS braided lines or basic rubber lines).

You can piece together a GT setup by buying your parts off mustang forum sites and probably get all of it for under 200 easily.

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Your bro's how-to doesnt even mention removing the axle shaft...
It says you have to remove your drum brakes, which involves removing the axle shafts or cutting the backplate.
If you don't know how to do this, you probably shouldn't be replacing the brakes to begin with.


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I've personally beat the living shiz out of my little brother's truck.....13" front Cobra's, 12" rear Cobra's, all under a little 2wd reg cab 4cyl 4whl ABS...
Yo bro, i don't like read that....
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Oh, and i'm sure i've post this before, but i just saw it over on RPS.

This is the only difference between the gt calipers and cobra calipers.
There is a debate if the cross bar adds any benefit. The auto-cross guys use gts fine and cobras fine, so its nothing to worry about.

Oh, and cobra pads are thinner because the rotors are thicker, and gt pads are thicker because the rotors are thinner. And yet, the cobra pads cost moar.....hmmmm

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Also, mike, where did you get your calipers from? or did you paint them red?....
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is the "2001+ 4WABS with electronic proportioning” hard to install ?
Effortless. 4WABS with Electronic Brake Force Distribution is standard equipment on 2001+ Rangers.
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Effortless. 4WABS with Electronic Brake Force Distribution is standard equipment on 2001+ Rangers.
For pre-01 Rangers I think the bets option is a Explorer proportioning valve or an adjustable proportioning valve from like Summit or Wilwood. I wonder if the pre-01 Expos had the Electronic Brake Force Distribution.
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I wonder if the pre-01 Expos had the Electronic Brake Force Distribution.
I believe that Sport Trac and Explorer Sport (2-dr) got EBFD in 2001 model year along with the Ranger.

The 4-door Explorer had to wait for EBFD until the complete redesign on the new larger platform in 2002. The 95~2001 Gen2 4-door Ex used a 4WABS system with a mechanical proportioning valve - very similar to the optional 4WABS available on 95~2000 Rangers.
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