Attention guys Ford will build a new Ranger!
#55
Originally Posted by edgeaholic (tm)
i'm a sceptic. to me, talk is cheap. until i see a commercial announcing it or one at an upcoming auto show, i'll never believe it. ford... show us the proof!
I'm talking about if there is a 4door crewcab ranger.....I would never buy it like they have those nissans, tacos, dakotas, etc......4dr crewcab with a REALLY short bed....like the sport trac. I would only buy a 4dr crewcab ranger if it were to have a "long box"...which in all reality is a 6' bed....what's on our trucks now. No friggin 4.5-5' beds here. FORD: Do to the ranger what you did to the f150 last year.....have a crew cab with optional "long box"!!!!
#57
I wouldn't mind a V8 in a ranger, I am not sure about the whole deisel thing. I have a feeling it won't be that powerful. I would still prefer to have a F250 over a deisel ranger. Only thing I could see with a deisel ranger...better for the enviorment and better mileage....both of the thing I could care less about lol.
#58
crew cab:
-hasn't toyota been making that in the tacoma since 2001?
-doesn't GM and Nissan BOTH already make a 4-door midsize pickup?
hey ford...way to be nearly a decade late to introduce a seating option that has been selling well
-doesn't Ford already make a crewcab pickup based on the ranger platform: the sporttrac explorer? wouldn't making a 4-door ranger would take sales away from something that works?
engines:
-many manufacturers have offered potent motors in their midsize trucks for awhile. Toyota revamped their pickups and put DOHC engines in all their tacoma's since 1995...so what's so great about Ford putting a DOHC 3.0 or 4.0 now?
hey ford...way to be nearly 15 years late to introduce technology that's been available for years
Furthermore, DOHC engines have been available within their division for years already...my mom's mazda MPV minivan has a 3.0 duratec that whoops the doors off any 2007 ranger engine. My understanding is that it just hasn't been profitable for them to fudge it into the ranger platform. It costs them peanuts to make the 3.0 vulcan V6 and put it in the same frame that has remained vastly unchanged for years. I mean Ford has been making the 3.0 and the 4.0 for years (the 3.0 since the ranger's inception 1986)...while they're not "good" motors, they are CHEAP ones...similar to the cashcow crown vic platform, it's much more profitable for them to keep something that they've been making instead of making something that might be better for the consumer, but new.
And lastly, making the ranger a bigger truck (and a crew cab w' a long bed) ceases to fit it in the midsize class anymore. Not only do they lose the market share of a class they no longer compete in, but they cut into the sales of the bigger half-ton trucks.
Do they really want that? Don't they WANT you to get the half ton truck if you want the bigger bed and a diesel? Won't they make more money selling $40k F-150's than a $22k ranger?
I don't know about a new ranger...it sounds more like speculation than a reality because of one reason: MONEY.
-hasn't toyota been making that in the tacoma since 2001?
-doesn't GM and Nissan BOTH already make a 4-door midsize pickup?
hey ford...way to be nearly a decade late to introduce a seating option that has been selling well
-doesn't Ford already make a crewcab pickup based on the ranger platform: the sporttrac explorer? wouldn't making a 4-door ranger would take sales away from something that works?
engines:
-many manufacturers have offered potent motors in their midsize trucks for awhile. Toyota revamped their pickups and put DOHC engines in all their tacoma's since 1995...so what's so great about Ford putting a DOHC 3.0 or 4.0 now?
hey ford...way to be nearly 15 years late to introduce technology that's been available for years
Furthermore, DOHC engines have been available within their division for years already...my mom's mazda MPV minivan has a 3.0 duratec that whoops the doors off any 2007 ranger engine. My understanding is that it just hasn't been profitable for them to fudge it into the ranger platform. It costs them peanuts to make the 3.0 vulcan V6 and put it in the same frame that has remained vastly unchanged for years. I mean Ford has been making the 3.0 and the 4.0 for years (the 3.0 since the ranger's inception 1986)...while they're not "good" motors, they are CHEAP ones...similar to the cashcow crown vic platform, it's much more profitable for them to keep something that they've been making instead of making something that might be better for the consumer, but new.
And lastly, making the ranger a bigger truck (and a crew cab w' a long bed) ceases to fit it in the midsize class anymore. Not only do they lose the market share of a class they no longer compete in, but they cut into the sales of the bigger half-ton trucks.
Do they really want that? Don't they WANT you to get the half ton truck if you want the bigger bed and a diesel? Won't they make more money selling $40k F-150's than a $22k ranger?
I don't know about a new ranger...it sounds more like speculation than a reality because of one reason: MONEY.
#59
Originally Posted by Bhavesh
-doesn't Ford already make a crewcab pickup based on the ranger platform: the sporttrac explorer? wouldn't making a 4-door ranger would take sales away from something that works?
Originally Posted by Bhavesh
Do they really want that? Don't they WANT you to get the half ton truck if you want the bigger bed and a diesel? Won't they make more money selling $40k F-150's than a $22k ranger?
#60
Originally Posted by Bhavesh
And lastly, making the ranger a bigger truck (and a crew cab w' a long bed) ceases to fit it in the midsize class anymore. Not only do they lose the market share of a class they no longer compete in, but they cut into the sales of the bigger half-ton trucks.
#62
Originally Posted by Bhavesh
engines:
-many manufacturers have offered potent motors in their midsize trucks for awhile. Toyota revamped their pickups and put DOHC engines in all their tacoma's since 1995...so what's so great about Ford putting a DOHC 3.0 or 4.0 now?
hey ford...way to be nearly 15 years late to introduce technology that's been available for years
Furthermore, DOHC engines have been available within their division for years already...my mom's mazda MPV minivan has a 3.0 duratec that whoops the doors off any 2007 ranger engine. My understanding is that it just hasn't been profitable for them to fudge it into the ranger platform. It costs them peanuts to make the 3.0 vulcan V6 and put it in the same frame that has remained vastly unchanged for years. I mean Ford has been making the 3.0 and the 4.0 for years (the 3.0 since the ranger's inception 1986)...while they're not "good" motors, they are CHEAP ones...similar to the cashcow crown vic platform, it's much more profitable for them to keep something that they've been making instead of making something that might be better for the consumer, but new.
-many manufacturers have offered potent motors in their midsize trucks for awhile. Toyota revamped their pickups and put DOHC engines in all their tacoma's since 1995...so what's so great about Ford putting a DOHC 3.0 or 4.0 now?
hey ford...way to be nearly 15 years late to introduce technology that's been available for years
Furthermore, DOHC engines have been available within their division for years already...my mom's mazda MPV minivan has a 3.0 duratec that whoops the doors off any 2007 ranger engine. My understanding is that it just hasn't been profitable for them to fudge it into the ranger platform. It costs them peanuts to make the 3.0 vulcan V6 and put it in the same frame that has remained vastly unchanged for years. I mean Ford has been making the 3.0 and the 4.0 for years (the 3.0 since the ranger's inception 1986)...while they're not "good" motors, they are CHEAP ones...similar to the cashcow crown vic platform, it's much more profitable for them to keep something that they've been making instead of making something that might be better for the consumer, but new.
#63
#68
Originally Posted by gatorblue92
well ill believe it when i see it... not that im gonna buy another ranger again
I personally don't need a full size truck, I am not that big of a guy and really my ranger tows my boat pretty good for what it is. If I had a little more roon inside and a little more power under the hood, it would be perfect....
#69
Originally Posted by greygooseranger
Why not?? Not happy with yours?
I personally don't need a full size truck, I am not that big of a guy and really my ranger tows my boat pretty good for what it is. If I had a little more roon inside and a little more power under the hood, it would be perfect....
I personally don't need a full size truck, I am not that big of a guy and really my ranger tows my boat pretty good for what it is. If I had a little more roon inside and a little more power under the hood, it would be perfect....
idk if i could sell mine or get another, be kinda odd to have 2 rangers
#70
#71
Hey Greygoose where do you work? I work for TRW Automotive and I have a friend that works for Ford. He works at the test track in Dearborn. He said the latest he heard was that the new US Ranger was going to be based off of the South American Ranger, but nothing was definite. He also mentioned that they have a bunch of South American Rangers in Dearborn but he wasn't sure if it was for that or if they were just doing testing up here.
#73
Originally Posted by silveranger93
Hey Greygoose where do you work? I work for TRW Automotive and I have a friend that works for Ford. He works at the test track in Dearborn. He said the latest he heard was that the new US Ranger was going to be based off of the South American Ranger, but nothing was definite. He also mentioned that they have a bunch of South American Rangers in Dearborn but he wasn't sure if it was for that or if they were just doing testing up here.
from what i understand those rangers have been there for quite sometime.
#74
Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
yes Ford does make a 4 door "mid sized" "pickup", but it is soley based on the Explorer chassie.....in '02+ the Explorer has its own chassie other than based off the Ranger.....
Originally Posted by lifted97ranger
in all reality, when you compare the cost to manufacture the Ranger vs. the cost to manufacture the F-150, they are making more money on the Rangers....
seem to make sense?
#75
Originally Posted by redranger4.0
The Ranger is the only compact pickup left....everything else in its class is much larger then it is, so increasing its size wouldnt put it out of the midsize class.
but, yes, you're right: currently the ranger is the only compact truck left. Compact trucks are smaller than midsize trucks.
But, unless they're completely ignoring what the majority of (but not all) consumers want, and where they need to fit into a niche of competition, the new ranger has to be a midsize truck. They need to make it a little bigger, because that's what sells.
So if they do, in fact, increase the size of the ranger to compete with the new tacoma, colorado, frontier, etc. they're going to make a truck that's bigger, longer, and a crew cab. But doing so might be stealing sales from the F-150. That, in turn, will create lower profits because they (should) make more money selling a $40k truck rather than selling a $22k truck.
So to conclude the last two responses I made: I don't think Ford would bring back a ranger because it's just not profitable for them anymore.