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brake problems in 4wd

I am having wier brake problems. It seams that it is only in 4wd, It has happened to me the past few times i needed 4wd. Today it is snowing and I have been using 4wd. When I hit the bake pedal it does not go down all the way, if i put more pressure on it instead of the pressure increasing and slowing more, it clicks...click click click....and I cant stop right away, No matter how hard I push the brakes, I almost hit someone because I could stop fast enough, the pedal would not let me push it further...just that click click click....Im 90% sure its only in 4wd. what is this?
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And I can literally feel the pedal and truck kind of pulsing. Not like abs when you slam the brakes, I dont think my truck even has abs.
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Is there a chance you're talking about the 4 wheel ABS activating? Your truck has 4 wheel ABS, and when it activates, its almost as if the pedal pushes back up.. Is that what you're describing?
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ya I think so, is that it? But I think it is to my disadvantage or is not working properly or something because I beeped like crazy and the person in front of me flew away, otherwie I would have hit them, And I was only doing about 30 and slowing down from that speed and now matter how harder I pushed the pedal i was not slowing faster it would not let me.
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Yeah it sounds like your ABS was active. I don't know how good your tires are, or what conditions you were trying to stop in, but allow yourself more room to stop, and brake easier, so as to avoid those situations on ice/snow.
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its your ABS just drive slower and look ahead more i know when i first found out i had ABS it made me blow through a stop sign.....
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Like everyone has said it's your ABS system, and it's doing its job. Just go a little slower and add more room between you and the car in front. 4x4 doesnt mean stops on a dime.
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it is so annoying, is there an easy way to disable it?
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on anything but ice or gravel, you will stop faster with ABS.
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I really dont think mine are working properly, it is so weird I just went out and played around in the parking lot, even if Im going like 10mph then touch the brakes it kicks in and will take a while to stop, just pulling into a parking space I hit the snow bank because it didn't stop in time.
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If its really slick outside the pedal will get very soft. It will vibrate a little as its working.

You also may have air in the system.

If the ABS light is not on its working correctly.
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ABS is not supposed to shorten your stopping distance. It is supposed to allow you to still have steering control in a situation where you get on the brakes hard and the road surface is slick. It is working correctly and you just need to give yourself more room to stop when it is slick out.
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Also if your using crappy all season tires especially fairly worn ones. These trucks suck for traction in any condition with them.


I have awesome traction running a cheap snow tire in the winter. 66 a piece from tirerack.
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I have "signet roadian ht" tires, I have never heard of them but from my experience with them so far they are crap. Don' t get much traction at all. I need to get me some bfg a/ts im just waiting for some to come around craigslist.
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Yeah, just allow yourself more room to stop. ABS allows you to steer your vehicle, its intended to keep your vehicle moving straight, instead of the rear locking up and sliding sideways(or past you), and 4wABS does that AND keeps the front from locking causing you to lose steering control. It doesnt help you stop faster.

Save your $$ for some better tires..
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I had an abs problem on my truck. But it did it in 2wd as well. It pulsed hard but i could also feel it in the steering wheel. It would try and pull to on side hard. And I could not stop very well at all. It did it on good traction. Not just snow. And when braking normally, like coming up to a red light. All of a sudden it would kick in. My just disabled it, but if you do you just have to be aware that if your brakes lock, you need to let off so you can steer if need be. I've had many instances where I've had to slam on the brakes and dodge a vehicle cutting in front of me in intersections and stuff, and if you know how to drive without abs then it shouldn't be a problem.

BUT, I did that because i could not afford to bring my truck in and get it checked out and possibly fixed. If you can I would have it looked at, and get it fixed if you're experiencing the same problem as mine had. If not, well personally i feel a lot safer with my truck now, because i still have control of it.
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I would think that the ABS would be more agressive in 2wd than 4wd, seeing as in 4wd all the wheels are somewhat locked together, that would make it less likely for one wheel to lock up and activate the ABS. But I will say that Ford has the most agressive ABS system of any car I have ever driven. I have always felt that it is usless in the snow. I'm sure it can be disabled fairly easily, just find the fuse.
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I have "signet roadian ht" tires, I have never heard of them but from my experience with them so far they are crap. Don' t get much traction at all. I need to get me some bfg a/ts im just waiting for some to come around craigslist.
HT or highway tread. Terrible snow tires, unless your changing lanes on the highway.

FWIW, the bfg's gave me a constant mileage hit of about 1mpg. Compared to Bridgestone revo AT. They were both 265's.

These cheap snow tires were a band aid for last winter after i had a flat. I must say i like them and choose to keep them on.
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