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8.8 rear and Dana 44 front with that much power and torque hope they have PLENTY of spare parts......that thing should be riding on a Dana 80 rear and Dana 60 fronts...
and you know better then a fab shop that obviously has some cred...


i would sell a ******** to own that...
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You know, if somebody would ask nicely I think i can pull some strings and get this full article online... I'm kinda close with the Online Editor of Diesel Power...
Pretty please get the full story online!
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That things so fast it doesnt need front wheels. They never touch.
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nicely!
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Please Jason!

I forgot about the ties with DP you had lol. I just posted the pics for the naysayers. Maurice that truck is 4500lbs with a projected 1,100-1,300 hp. Those built axles should be ok for a bit and if they aren't. You know what they say. Build it bigger and stronger.
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You know, if somebody would ask nicely I think i can pull some strings and get this full article online... I'm kinda close with the Online Editor of Diesel Power...
pretty please...
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It says its a 97 with a 2003 front clip.
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I just like the supercharger to turbo setup.
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Since you guys asked so nicely I'll put it online tomorrow.
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and you know better then a fab shop that obviously has some cred...
I guess he does cause hes right, a d44/8.8 is not the right combo for that much engine. d44 could prolly get by as it doenst look like the type of truck that uses 4wd, but that 8.8 is going to moan groan and then spit its internals out the diff cover.
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oh so hot!!!
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I guess he does cause hes right, a d44/8.8 is not the right combo for that much engine. d44 could prolly get by as it doenst look like the type of truck that uses 4wd, but that 8.8 is going to moan groan and then spit its internals out the diff cover.
Pending on racing scenario. If he's doing launches, he'll munch that 8.8 in no time. If he's going from a roll to reach max speed then the effect of all that torque to the axles wouldn't be as great an issue. Though with the size of the rear tires it's hard to tell really what scenario it's setup for.
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There it is. Dana 44 front axle. Ford 8.8 rear. Custom four link suspension and boxed and reinforced frame.
yep that is the one,told you guys i was not BSing
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yea but if a diesel makes 1300 HP, can you imagine what the TQ numbers are=?....i can....they would be ungodly...
A recriprocating piston engine cannot make "hp". It's just not possible. Only a horse can make horse power.

It's all about the torque curve. "Horse Power" was simply a way to make simple minded people in the late 1800's grasp what an engine did. Folks were just... um... un-educated as how to relate power to a twisting motion.

http://www.web-cars.com/math/horsepower.html

As far as the UnGodly part... God spun the earth on an axis long before we even realized we were on a sphere and spinning. Once again *HE* is the master.

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Pending on racing scenario. If he's doing launches, he'll munch that 8.8 in no time. If he's going from a roll to reach max speed then the effect of all that torque to the axles wouldn't be as great an issue. Though with the size of the rear tires it's hard to tell really what scenario it's setup for.
aint no scenario that would allow an 8.8 to survive behind that much torque......the 1st things to go would be the u-joints.....they would get twisted in 2.....
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and you know better then a fab shop that obviously has some cred...
i guess i do as a matter of fact.........ya know that is why they are putting 8.8's in race cars.......oh and even why they are putting them in the new Super Duty's cause they can hold that much torque.........oooo oooo oooo oooo i think i will see if my dad wants my 8.8 to go into his Freightliner semi since it is soooooo strong!

come on now.....if the 8.8 could hold that much power, then they would be in the new Super Duty's.....but they cant....and that is why the new Super Duty's have something compareable to a Dana 60 or Dana 80.......for the strength and ability to handle that much power.....
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All and all... who really cares... he's building a sick truck. Let him build it the way he wants.

I just love the fact that all day long people can sit on the internet and tell people it'll never work... but yet people manage to do it by going out and, surprise surprise, actually trying it and finding out for themselves.

Sure the 8.8 was not made for anything near this engine. If he breaks it, I'm sure he'll upgrade. All and all though who really cares. I'm sure he'll have fun breaking it, I know I would. Then he'll build something stronger and break that.

This kind of reminds me Ryan's threads. He's built a sick truck and yet people are instantly like "Oh it'll never work. That 8.8 can't handle 40s." He's been running 40s for quite awhile now and yet it still works.

I'm not trying to start anything, just figured I'd make a point. Yes somethings aren't meant for high horsepower, big tire things. But all I see is people on here bashing this guys unbelievable sweet Ranger with gobs of HP and Torque because he's using stock axles (which are beefed up a little bit). Screw the amazing amount of work that he put into getting it in there.
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there was a thread about this a while ago ... its a desert racer on the salt flats and its ot really a ranger just the shell ... buts its really cool ...
I think you are thinking of the cummins dakota that banks runs on the salt flats. its the fastest truck, it broke the landspeed record for trucks. leave it to banks to be the best
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8.8 rear and Dana 44 front with that much power and torque hope they have PLENTY of spare parts......that thing should be riding on a Dana 80 rear and Dana 60 fronts...
thats what i was thinking
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4wd Launches should equal out the stress. I understand where you guys are coming from. This started out as a thread about a ranger with a diesel in it. Not a p***ing match about axles. I agrees it should have bigger axles. It's a one of a kind and street legal sheesh.
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aint no scenario that would allow an 8.8 to survive behind that much torque......the 1st things to go would be the u-joints.....they would get twisted in 2.....
Would it eventually bight the dust? Yes.

Would it hold out for a while if it was doing 100-??? mph runs not from a dig? Yes.

Are the U-joints what make the 8.8 weak? No.

Can't say the 8.8 won't last because the u-joints will go out first. That's like saying an engine won't run because you burnt up the transmission clutch.

The drive line can be built with stronger drive line components. Just as the inside of the 8.8 can be built stronger as well.
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The drive line can be built with stronger drive line components. Just as the inside of the 8.8 can be built stronger as well.
yes the driveline can be built stronger, no the 8.8 can't get much stronger than a 8.8 31 spline with alloy shafts......and a good built v8 would destroy that...
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I think you are thinking of the cummins dakota that banks runs on the salt flats. its the fastest truck, it broke the landspeed record for trucks. leave it to banks to be the best
no there is a ranger with a built 6.0 that ran faster then the banks truck, but it had technical difficulties and couldnt run more then once so it couldnt be verified
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Here you guys go!

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/

You can thank my assistant for getting the article done first thing this morning, then you can blame me and our crappy new system for taking all day to get it published to the site... buy anyway... enjoy!
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Here you guys go!

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/

You can thank my assistant for getting the article done first thing this morning, then you can blame me and our crappy new system for taking all day to get it published to the site... buy anyway... enjoy!
Thanks much Jason. Awesome share.... wondering if we can get a video of it onces its done. Maybe I should try and get a hold of Outlaw... see if they'd post one.
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