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Lots of info here. Myself, I would check the tire pressure. When I picked up my new truck they had 3 lbs over recommended pressure in all four tires. Guess some people can't read data sheets or like many they "assume" they know what they are doing.....
If your tires are to spec pressure try dropping them 1 or 2 lbs and see if that helps. Diffferent tires act differently. I agree about oil on the road making it slippery from a light rain.
Heck, I run my Avon tires on my motorcycle at 45 lbs. You should see the posts on that. ) But then again I ride 1000 miles a day back to back. I have them set for the way I ride.
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I think I have these Continental ContiTrac, and i do have open differential.

Sorry i did not put it in but I did check to see if there was oil, and there is non. I go to my firends house almost daily. But i usually take the car.

Should i get better tires, or change the diferentials?
I Know all these guys are saying get better tires, but I am sold on Contitracs I had and still have them on my Expedition. If you aren't a Hard core Off roader they are great tires and l put over 100K on them and they still looked reasonably good. I never had any real wet weather problems with them and the off roading I do, Mostly Farmers trail and logging roads back to where I hunt, they worked great.

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I found that when I put my toolbox in the back, loaded with about 100lbs, it helped with my traction somewhat. It is functional weight that you may want to look into rather than sandbags.

This may sound silly to some, but I have gotten to love the fishtailing. I find myself letting the truck fishtail a bit when I take off first at lights when it is raining. I don't do anything excessive, just a bit to enjoy it and get it back under control. Believe it or not, it has helped to teach me a bit about the truck, and has helped me avoid a few accidents when the truck has lost control.
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winks, I understand what you are saying. My friends truck fishtails. He has a Chevy silveraldo extended cab. It is fun to drive in the rain. it fishtails and i have learned to keep it undercontrol.

But, it is his truck. When it happened to me I though something was wrong with my truck.
My mom uses my truck sometimes so i will let her know what i have learned. but, I hope it doesn't happen to my mom, so if better tires work then I will get them.
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i was thinking the same thing john!
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fishtailing is dangerous, a couple weeks back my truck hit some ice fishtailed, I couldnt correct it and I floped it on its side, 10k worth of damage. Good thing im trading it in on a new truck.
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I found that when I put my toolbox in the back, loaded with about 100lbs, it helped with my traction somewhat. It is functional weight that you may want to look into rather than sandbags.

This may sound silly to some, but I have gotten to love the fishtailing. I find myself letting the truck fishtail a bit when I take off first at lights when it is raining. I don't do anything excessive, just a bit to enjoy it and get it back under control. Believe it or not, it has helped to teach me a bit about the truck, and has helped me avoid a few accidents when the truck has lost control.
This is something that can be good for you in order to learn how to control your truck in all situations. Every vehicle I have had I have taken through the snow and intentionally lost control in order to feel how the car reacts. This has allowed me to gain control in circumstances in which the vehicle losses control.

When I took my truck in the rain for the first time and it fishtailed while turning left at a light with traffic to my right it scared the crap out of me. SO I fishtailed my way along that morning on purpose to feel out what it takes to make my back end squirrly. Now never does my truck fishtail in the rain without me purposefully doing it.

Just remember know matter how careful you are and how much you know your truck you should be careful because you never know when something could go wrong to the point at which you can not correct it. Like what happened to n3elz and redranger4.0
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I never had a problem with my 05 standard cab short bed ranger. Knowing how to drive the living **** out of a vehicle is better than buying a vehicle less adept to getting "squirly", and then relying on the vehicle to correct itself. One time I hit black ice on my way home turning left from a stop sign, put it sideways 3 times at about 15mph before getting it straight, but never once did I ever "not have control".

You have to know how your vehicle is going to react, and the more you can do to learn your vehicle, the better off you are.
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D94R , I want to practice how to fishtail on my truck in a big parkinglot. How do i learn how to fishtail?

I have practice baking , or like slamming the brakes.
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steer in the direction the rear end is going..

Example..
so your makin your left hand turn, the rear starts to slip and starts to swing right, to correct turn the wheel to the right (following the rear). you can either power through it and do alittle drifting or let of the gas slightly and it should regain traction. now this is not on ice mind you...

only thing to be carfull of is the point of no return when the rear gets to far out, or when the rear whips back the oposite direction and gets verry squrirlly because of over correction...

lol im not telling you to go and do this only trying to help you when it does happen.


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i cant fish tail my truck :( haha i miss the days of sliding around turns haha i did fishtail my 07 xlt down hill speeding up to get thru the light while turning.. nothing bad but i felt tha a$$ end break loose a lil bit
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Yeah the fishtailing days. I remember them with the goodyears on. Man you had to be really careful cause those rts's will turn you around and upside down in the ditch before you know it. I have no idea how these at2's are going to handle in the snow. I have tested them on back roads with snow but that is at slow speeds. Only problem with 70's series is they are wide and tend to slide alot.
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Should i get better tires, or change the diferentials?
Get ya some BFG A/T's. I have some and don't have any problem in the rain, actually I try to fish tail and I can't very eassily. I also have a loaded toolbox in the bed. BFG A/T's are great in the rain, no complaints.
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D94R , I want to practice how to fishtail on my truck in a big parkinglot. How do i learn how to fishtail?

I have practice baking , or like slamming the brakes.
gravel? wet parking lot? dry pavement? each scenario changes how you are going to "lose control" momentarily. But like 06FX4 said, get the rear to break loose (easier to do on wet pavement or loose stone) then then cut the wheel towards the direction of skid.
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Trigger01, I have the stock wheels. What would be a good size without changing rims? or do i need to get rims also? my oems are 22/70-15.
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Doesn't matter on the type of tires........lay off the gas when you're turning. Only way tires break loose is if there's too much power to them.....and being bald, but since you've said they are fine......lay off the gas bud. It's a truck, and as mentioned above, its got a light ***.
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