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-   -   Fix for Check Engine light codes: p0401, po171 and po174 (https://www.ranger-forums.com/general-ford-ranger-discussion-15/fix-check-engine-light-codes-p0401-po171-po174-87334/)

shawn '93 Jun 9, 2009 07:30 PM

you can buy a scanner from most of the parts stores. some are better than others, or you can get one from a matco or snap-on dealer, very pricey though.

seed60 Jun 10, 2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 02oregonedge+ (Post 1362234)
If it's going flat you need to change the elbow, or it's going to do what mine did and get a hole in it from too much heat..

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for sure elbow change time, if its that weak its gonna start to leak really soon.
Thanks guys.

north44 Jun 10, 2009 05:55 PM

That elbow seems to be a weak point for sure, from all the posts on this thread.

That same part gave out on me a few years ago, and the CEL did, indeed, come on.

I was lucky, because when I popped the hood, I heard a distinct "hissing" and managed to trace it to the split elbow.

Rather than going to the dealer for the part, I fabricated a repair on the spot, using a copper plumbing elbow and a couple of appropriately sized sections of heater hose that slipped over the elbow, the plastic vacuum hose and the engine nozzle with a tight fit.

The repair has held up - the only shortcoming is that the heater hose softens over time, but that is probably no more or less than what the original piece undergoes, so I just replace the hoses when needed.

Seems to me the deterioration of that elbow has a lot to do with the tremendous amount of heat it's subjected to, the friction of the upper rad hose rubbing against it, and the soft rubber compound it seems to be made of.

In any event, it's a pretty simple fix for a problem that can cause so many drivability problems - glad you got it traced and fixed.

Ace Jun 11, 2009 11:22 AM

well i got both codes now and i looked at the elbow the correct one this time lol and i have a small crack in it....

so where did you guys get your replacement? local hardware store?

edit: just turned the truck on and its going flat lol

Toreador4x4 Jun 11, 2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ace (Post 1364654)
well i got both codes now and i looked at the elbow the correct one this time lol and i have a small crack in it....

so where did you guys get your replacement? local hardware store?

edit: just turned the truck on and its going flat lol

Dealership, PM me and i can mail you one if you want

seed60 Jun 11, 2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Toreador4x4 (Post 1364662)
Dealership, PM me and i can mail you one if you want

I might just have to take you up on that...and get some 06 corners while I am it. :biggrin:

Ace Jun 11, 2009 12:21 PM

damn i should of waited longer lol all well im fixing it now

Ace Jun 11, 2009 12:48 PM

that thing was a ***** to get off i ended up ripping it completely in half then i had to take a knife and cut it longways to get off lol

P.S i need to reset the CEL right?

PwrRngr Jun 11, 2009 03:30 PM

interesting, my truck is throwing only 1 lean code. i'll have to check that elbow. glad i found this thread. thanks for posting!

02oregonedge+ Jun 11, 2009 03:32 PM

I think this thread should be sticky'ed, cause it seems like it's another notorious ranger problem....

Ace Jun 11, 2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PwrRngr (Post 1365030)
interesting, my truck is throwing only 1 lean code. i'll have to check that elbow. glad i found this thread. thanks for posting!

mine was just throwing one code at first also

TheBearJeweler Jun 11, 2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 02oregonedge+ (Post 1365032)
I think this thread should be sticky'ed, cause it seems like it's another notorious ranger problem....

There is a TSB on it... LOL:drillserg

ryan_88 Jun 27, 2009 08:02 AM

i get the code for insufficient flow and sometimes excessive flow. i replaced the dpfe and egr and the codes wont go away. i put some cheap stp fuel cleaner in the tank, and the codes finally left. this was a year ago, and the codes have come back. the cleaner won't work anymore.

i checked the elbow, and it doesn't go flat, and there doesn't seem to be any visible cracks or holes. should i replace it anyway? any thoughts to what else it could be?

lownrangr Mar 22, 2010 12:02 PM

anyone know if the p/n F8UZ-6762-AA is still current for this hose? The dude at the dealer had no idea what I was talking about. Fordparts.com calls it the "elbow-crankcase vent tube" and it's 17 bucks, but I'm not sure if it's the right part. Any ideas would be great thanks.

andddrew says Mar 22, 2010 01:42 PM

i can't find the elbow piece, my truck has been running horrible lately, thanks 04blackedge for posting that tip about unplugging the battery then turn the headlights on. That is really cool to know.

If anyone can help me locate this little elbow thing that would be great

picmupranger Mar 22, 2010 05:21 PM

How many inches of vacuum is normal at idle?

98rangerxlt Mar 22, 2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by picmupranger (Post 1625085)
How many inches of vacuum is normal at idle?

18-22 in vac at idle

lownrangr Mar 22, 2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lownrangr (Post 1624851)
anyone know if the p/n F8UZ-6762-AA is still current for this hose? The dude at the dealer had no idea what I was talking about. Fordparts.com calls it the "elbow-crankcase vent tube" and it's 17 bucks, but I'm not sure if it's the right part. Any ideas would be great thanks.

I actually ended up buying a silicone elbow online today so I won't have this happen again.

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Originally Posted by andddrew says (Post 1624903)
i can't find the elbow piece, my truck has been running horrible lately, thanks 04blackedge for posting that tip about unplugging the battery then turn the headlights on. That is really cool to know.

If anyone can help me locate this little elbow thing that would be great

it's right about where the yellow circle is, behind the rad hose.

picmupranger Mar 22, 2010 06:18 PM

I got 18 inches of vacuum. checked the elbow and it's got a 3/4'' crack in it. Where can I get a new one and what is the part number?

andddrew says Mar 22, 2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lownrangr (Post 1625119)
I actually ended up buying a silicone elbow online today so I won't have this happen again.



it's right about where the yellow circle is, behind the rad hose.

Hey so i dont know if my engine is different then yours, but i can't seem to find that tube in the engine.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6125/photo11i.jpg

i just took a quick picture of my engine can someone lead me in the right direction.... btw i dont know where the throttle box is or how to take it off

Toreador4x4 Mar 22, 2010 09:18 PM

you have a 3.0

andddrew says Mar 22, 2010 10:04 PM

oh wow so this can't be done on a 3.0?

fourwhlnutt Apr 21, 2010 08:04 AM

Just wanted to say thanks. You guys ROCK!!! I had done everything from new plugs, new EGR, new fuel filter, cleaned the MAF and replaced the Differential Pressure Sensor and it still idled rough hot and threw the codes. Went and replaced the elbow yesterday and SHAZAM!!! No more codes and it idles great. Thanks again!

Trigger Jul 26, 2010 10:02 PM

Since there is a tSB on it is it a free fix? my elbow is collapsing. wish i would have known this sooner ive replace 4 dpfe sensors for insufficient flow. Good advice though!

TheBearJeweler Aug 10, 2010 10:37 PM

Trent, This should probably be a sticky somewhere. I love showing people this when i'm at the parts store. They are like WTF!?! Most people sadly spend $100's of dollars before they figure this out. Thanks to Jazz921 and Toreador4x4 I saved a lot of money on my old black truck.


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