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is this legal? probably not

ok im sure everyone knows how jeep owners can remove the doors on their vehicle and its legal, but could a ranger owner do it? and what about half doors to keep your legs in?

im asking this because i was thinking about doing this and i wanted to know your opinions. LET THE BASHING BEGIN!
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it is legal on jeeps because there is >6" of rise between the floor pan and the bottom of the door opening.

on a ranger it would be illegal to run with no doors because you do not have that step there
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Why?

EDIT: Why would you WANT to???
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lol there is a thread or two about this on here i remember seeing. as far as being illigal, i dont know but its does significantly weaken the structure of the truck without the doors. the doors are a large part of the cab structure on these trucks.
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i would get tube doors, as in almost a full door, but more open. i wanna do it bc its something to kkep me busy this summer plus i think it might look nice
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Ive seen a few people around my area without doors not rangers but other trucks
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plus with no doors you can wear shorts and get a nice draft
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i would get tube doors, as in almost a full door, but more open. i wanna do it bc its something to kkep me busy this summer plus i think it might look nice
that will help but alot of the strength is in the top of the doors. the doors help hold the roof up in the event of a roll over.
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just dont roll over and your good
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This has Bad Idea written all over it . . .

IMO
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IMO, its no different than driving a convertible... so unless you are stanch opponent of convertibles i dont see the safety issue here...

but yes, illegal. you need that lip on the floor as stated before
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Not all states even like the Jeeps doorless....I ran into some cops that did not like me going doorless when I lived/still visit in PA...the 6" lip thing is a rumor that not all states "agree" with....well, at least the police
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uhhhh... it's a different truck than is what is in your avatar right?

Cuz if it is, it's just gonna look like you're some idiot who got his doors stolen cuz he was playing vanilla ice in the wrong part of town.

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IMO, its no different than driving a convertible... so unless you are stanch opponent of convertibles i dont see the safety issue here...

but yes, illegal. you need that lip on the floor as stated before
it is different because convertibles are engineered to handle the added stresses of not having a roof. they rest of the body is strengthened to compensate. rangers are designed to have doors on them otherwise they would have made them removable like the jeeps
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Actually, most rangers have a half door conversion feature built right in - just like the crankable t bars! The steps are as follows:

1. Jack the truck up at least 6" off the ground front and back, making sure you are level side to side and front to back

2. Grasp the handle on the door panel of the driver's side firmly (but not TOO tight), and rotate clockwise 6 to 7 times, or until it will no longer rotate freely - DO NOT FORCE BEYOND THIS POINT
* In some models this feature is electronic...refer to your chilton manual or consult a certified ford mechanic to activate the half door feature if you have an electronic door reducing module in your vehicle. The switch to activate this feature is located in very close proximity to the door position permanitizing switch, and if you hit the wrong one your doors will no longer open.

3. Repeat this procedure on the passenger's side door

4. Slowly lower the truck
* Jacking the truck up to begin with is actually entirely optional

You now have half doors on your ranger! (in technical terms, your "windows" are now "down")


JK man, there is a pic on here somewhere of someone wheeling with his doors off flexed on a rock and it looks pretty BA and actually very handy if you are going to be crawling around a lot. Pipe doors seem like the way to go, as the doors are somewatt structural. Good luck!
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it is different because convertibles are engineered to handle the added stresses of not having a roof. they rest of the body is strengthened to compensate. rangers are designed to have doors on them otherwise they would have made them removable like the jeeps


the windshield is going to support the entire car? if thats the case, every car/truck would be engineered with this windshield...

i doubt there will be enough stress put on the truck for it to actively be effected by not having doors on it.
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the windshield is going to support the entire car? if thats the case, every car/truck would be engineered with this windshield...

i doubt there will be enough stress put on the truck for it to actively be effected by not having doors on it.
I think he's talking convertable off road capable vehicles. A jeep frame structure will hold up to rolling over regarless of doors on/off or top on/off, while a ranger needs its doors or the roof will be at the steering wheel.

If you aren't headed off road, doesn't seem like it would matter (but if you aren't heading off road, I don't see the advantage of not having your doors...other than the afformentioned pleasurable draft)
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the windshield is going to support the entire car? if thats the case, every car/truck would be engineered with this windshield...

i doubt there will be enough stress put on the truck for it to actively be effected by not having doors on it.
im not referring just to the roof, im talking about body/ frame flex. not to mention in a head on crash, the doors are what help keep the cab from imploding. do it if you want but dont expect the insurance to pay for it when its totalled in an accident without doors.
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okay the head on collision does make sense, you initially just spoke of a roll over. And yeah i doubt that any insurance company will give you anything if you remove the doors since youre removing factory parts...


its actually very effective offroad because you can see directly below you, which is why tube doors are popular
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this is what my truck looked like when i bought it. you may not be able to tell from the pic but the doors are what held the weight of the truck when it was on its lid. the roof provides little protection and provides even less wothout the doors. the structure that goes from the bottom of the door up around the window is a couple layers thick steel and its very, very strong. the doors also have lateral braces that stiffen the cab between the hinge and the door catch. a good well built set of tube doors will help with that part but will not strengthen the truck torsionally or strengthen the roof section.
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plus with no doors you can wear shorts and get a nice draft
If you want a nice breeze, run around your neighborhood naked. lmao
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plus with no doors you can wear shorts and get a nice draft
they make a system that does this with your doors on... it's called A/C

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Actually, most rangers have a half door conversion feature built right in - just like the crankable t bars! The steps are as follows:

1. Jack the truck up at least 6" off the ground front and back, making sure you are level side to side and front to back

2. Grasp the handle on the door panel of the driver's side firmly (but not TOO tight), and rotate clockwise 6 to 7 times, or until it will no longer rotate freely - DO NOT FORCE BEYOND THIS POINT
* In some models this feature is electronic...refer to your chilton manual or consult a certified ford mechanic to activate the half door feature if you have an electronic door reducing module in your vehicle. The switch to activate this feature is located in very close proximity to the door position permanitizing switch, and if you hit the wrong one your doors will no longer open.

3. Repeat this procedure on the passenger's side door

4. Slowly lower the truck
* Jacking the truck up to begin with is actually entirely optional

You now have half doors on your ranger! (in technical terms, your "windows" are now "down")
are you completely retarted or were you just dropped on your head one too many times as a kid?

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the windshield is going to support the entire car? if thats the case, every car/truck would be engineered with this windshield...

i doubt there will be enough stress put on the truck for it to actively be effected by not having doors on it.
like it was later mentioned, the strength in a convertable is not talking about roll over, regardless, there is more metal in a convertable, than there is in a coupe...

look at a mustang, (the fox bodies, as that's what i know) there are 3 body styles, coupe, hatch back, and convertable (which is the exact shape as a coupe, except the top is fabric) and 2 trim packages, the lx coupe is lightest, add 200-300 lbs for the lx hatchback, another 200 lbs for the GT package (the GT only came on the hatchback and convertable) add 500 lbs to the hatchback, for the LX vert, and another 200 on top of that, for the gt vert...

the reason that the hatchback is heavier, is because it doesn't have the lateral bracing at the bottom of the rear window, and infront of the trunk, it's all one piece, so everything around it has to be built to take that stress... same basic idea for the convertable...

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this is what my truck looked like when i bought it. you may not be able to tell from the pic but the doors are what held the weight of the truck when it was on its lid. the roof provides little protection and provides even less wothout the doors. the structure that goes from the bottom of the door up around the window is a couple layers thick steel and its very, very strong. the doors also have lateral braces that stiffen the cab between the hinge and the door catch. a good well built set of tube doors will help with that part but will not strengthen the truck torsionally or strengthen the roof section.
i think that a set of tube doors, if built within the exterior structure of a stock door (basicly take the door, and cut the middle out... and replace with bars, it SHOULD be as strong, if not stronger...

here is what i'm thinking... take the door...
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(yes i realize this is a chevy door, but it will work just the same, and how it's set up on here is perfect)
cut the door up, take the inner out, and just leave the parts that mate to the door frame, this will allow the strength of the door to distribute out to the same places as stock
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next i would weld it in, triangulating, this should put roughly the same weight in the same places... and leaves a nice big section for you to hop in and out through...
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if my memory serves me correctly... doesn't beard have a set of tube doors?
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i think that a set of tube doors, if built within the exterior structure of a stock door (basicly take the door, and cut the middle out... and replace with bars, it SHOULD be as strong, if not stronger...

here is what i'm thinking... take the door...

(yes i realize this is a chevy door, but it will work just the same, and how it's set up on here is perfect)
cut the door up, take the inner out, and just leave the parts that mate to the door frame, this will allow the strength of the door to distribute out to the same places as stock


next i would weld it in, triangulating, this should put roughly the same weight in the same places... and leaves a nice big section for you to hop in and out through...


if my memory serves me correctly... doesn't beard have a set of tube doors?
i think something like that is pretty cool and will still be strong but will allow enough air to blow up your shorts if thats what youre into. lol
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i kinda want to do it now... :D
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are you completely retarted or were you just dropped on your head one too many times as a kid?
Slow down there tough guy. The part of my post you conviniently chose not to quote makes it pretty clear I was joking around. The post wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the op who from his "let the bashin begin" comment I'm guessing probably has enough of a man unit to take the joke without feeling like he needs to call someone retarded. You must be missing a couple key pieces.
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