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Slow down there tough guy. The part of my post you conviniently chose not to quote makes it pretty clear I was joking around. The post wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the op who from his "let the bashin begin" comment I'm guessing probably has enough of a man unit to take the joke without feeling like he needs to call someone retarded. You must be missing a couple key pieces.
i just think your a retard for coming on here, and making fun of a guy who was asking legitimate questions about something he wants to do to his truck... sorry, but who are you?

let the bashing begin is in reference to people not liking the idea, not an open invitation to people who think they are carrot top
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let the bashing begin is in reference to people not liking the idea, not an open invitation to people who think they are carrot top
It's nice that there is a place like this where people like you can come to talk sh*t to people like me without having to worry about keeping your teeth in your head. You said your piece, I got it, now stfu. If the OP reads as much into my comments as you've found the need to, I'll be happy to apologize and wish him the best of his luck with his door removal - thanks for your input.
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Sorry man, jumped down your throat a bit there - and sorry to everyone else for derailing the thread into a BS fest. All the women in my life (Wife, mother, sister) work with handicapped children - it's worn off on me and I get jumpy when people throw retard around. At any rate, was just trying to be funny - take it or leave it but believe me it ain't worth the time to get offended over.
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im not referring just to the roof, im talking about body/ frame flex. not to mention in a head on crash, the doors are what help keep the cab from imploding. do it if you want but dont expect the insurance to pay for it when its totalled in an accident without doors.
If your truck is totalled they're not going to say "the doors failed! If he had doors the truck would've not gotten crushed by that semi!". Well they are, but you'll just call em dip****s and sue em.


Anyways, this argument (doors vs no doors) reminds me of (sunroof vs no sunroof). Basically a ton of people post without knowledge.


One thing to point out, the rear door on a 4 door ranger is the structural Pillar, not the door. Not saying the door doesn't help out, just in a rollover it generally just bends. You definately should have a halfdoor though because if you rollover onto a stump or something sticking through your door you will most likely get crushed. Especially since there's no 6 inch lip to catch your feet.
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just doooo it

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If your truck is totalled they're not going to say "the doors failed! If he had doors the truck would've not gotten crushed by that semi!". Well they are, but you'll just call em dip****s and sue em.


Anyways, this argument (doors vs no doors) reminds me of (sunroof vs no sunroof). Basically a ton of people post without knowledge.


One thing to point out, the rear door on a 4 door ranger is the structural Pillar, not the door. Not saying the door doesn't help out, just in a rollover it generally just bends. You definately should have a halfdoor though because if you rollover onto a stump or something sticking through your door you will most likely get crushed. Especially since there's no 6 inch lip to catch your feet.
are you suggesting i dont have any knowledge? if you are you are mistaken. im not going to get into a pissing match with you but ive been working with my father in his auto bussiness since i was old enough to do so and ive seen alot of wrecks and know a little bit about how important certain body structures are. ive had my hands inside and out of my ranger and i have more than a clue on how its put together and where the significant structure peices are and how strong some sections really are. you are correct though, the rear doors on the 4 door rangers are also a structural section but are no more of an important structure than the front door. im by no means saying there is no way to take your doors off and still be safe in the truck but some added structure should be added such as tube doors or something to strengthen the area between the front a-pillar and rear pillar or rear doors, depending on your cab configuration.
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If you're worried about it you can do one of two things

1) Build a damn roll cage.
2) Leave the doors on the truck.

Jeeps can have the doors off because they come from the factory with a half-*** roll cage.

problem solved.
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As far as the legality of it, when I lived in Arkansas, you had to have a lip at the bottom that was either 4 or 6 inches tall. Can't remember the exact number. You also had to have a tube/bar/something about half way up the "door" to keep the passenger in the vehicle. A guy in the 4x4 club I was a member of took a stock Chevy door for his K5, cut the shell like the pictures above, closed the gaps with flat steel, welded a tube across the center of the door at, "arm rest level" then braced it with a couple more tubes forming a more or less X under the cross tube. (Hope that makes sense) From there you could get a piece of canvas or sail cloth and attach it to make a soft door for cooler days.

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As far as the legality of it, when I lived in Arkansas, you had to have a lip at the bottom that was either 4 or 6 inches tall. Can't remember the exact number. You also had to have a tube/bar/something about half way up the "door" to keep the passenger in the vehicle. A guy in the 4x4 club I was a member of took a stock Chevy door for his K5, cut the shell like the pictures above, closed the gaps with flat steel, welded a tube across the center of the door at, "arm rest level" then braced it with a couple more tubes forming a more or less X under the cross tube. (Hope that makes sense) From there you could get a piece of canvas or sail cloth and attach it to make a soft door for cooler days.

Kris
while that would work, i think half of the point of the half/tube doors, is to allow someone to lean out of the truck, to see what the wheels are on, while 4xing, that would be the most safe way to do it, i should add that i don't know anything about the laws in this, but i wouldn't really see much of a difference between what you have suggested, and a full door, in that aspect... the other thing that would help, is if your truck is leaning hard, or is up against a rock face, you can hop out through the half door, rather than having to climb out the window (because you are too close to open the door)

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no body is saying that it CAN'T be done, it's just not recommended....

REGARDLESS, that is just a huge heat score right there...




something that i just realized... if anyone has any question about the structural advantage of the doors, go flex your truck out HARD on something, especially when it's lifting a front tire, rather than a rear... there are a few pics of my truck on here with the rear left tire off the ground, while my front tire is up a 4 foot dirt pile, i couldn't close my door, after i opened it, not that i tried really hard, the flex in the body made the door not line up... it hit the frame and i didn't want to scratch my door frame with the door, so i waited till i got back on flat ground before i closed it
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I'm sure I had mine twisted up and in more screwy places more than yours and I never had an Issue. And I where did i say it wasn't possible? I just said do it, stop asking questions and do what ever he wants.

..that being said, before you come back with another smart *** comment. I know Rangers have a ton of frame flex.
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Jeeps can have the doors off because they come from the factory with a half-*** roll cage.

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Thats not the entire reason, but one of the best points mentioned so far in this ***** fest. I do agree The factory roll bar is half-assed at best... Its a complete joke to me, search for a utube video of moab and jeep rolls on lions back.... Her roll cage is an add-on exactly the same one I have in mine, only thing that saved her life...

On that note, If you wanted to run with out doors, I would make an interior roll frame in the cab, similar to whats in drag cars and only then would I feel safe enough to run doorless in a ranger. I've seen too many threads lately of rangers rolled during what could be considered regular driving.... Around here there are a few full sized trucks doorless that I have seen, but most are hunting rigs and not a dd....
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I know its not the entire reason, but its one I didn't see. Just saw a bunch of BS about the lip. Get a 2x6 and slip that ***** in there.
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i used to roll my 4 runner with no top or doors in the summer... never got looked at twice. i we even givin a compliment by a cop after i came around the drive through. i highly doubt anyone would hassle ya for this. and if your doubting the legality of it. check some statutes out in your state
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slightly off topic here, but I might be buying a '79 K5 Blazer that has no doors, it has diamond plate trim around the door openings so I cant put doors back on it, it has a roll cage. Does anyone think that this truck would be illegal?
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I've seen a bunch of K5s without doors. Then again Texas is really relaxed on lift laws.
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I'm sure I had mine twisted up and in more screwy places more than yours and I never had an Issue. And I where did i say it wasn't possible? I just said do it, stop asking questions and do what ever he wants.

..that being said, before you come back with another smart *** comment. I know Rangers have a ton of frame flex.
hold up man, i'm sure you have too... you're telling me that you've never had any issues with doors not quite ligning up, due to the door being opened, while it is flexed hard?

i never said you said it wasn't possible, so i'm not entirely sure what you are getting at there... and i'm not planning on coming back with any smart *** comments, nor have i, nevermind ANOTHER... i don't think we are or were arguing about anything here...
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you said you couldn't close it. sure they didn't line up *perfect* but i never had to fight it to open it or close it.

and yea, your right, sorry. i had just woke up lol
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no need to appolojize (sp?) we are all friends on here, even though some of us (me included) are sometimes pmsing lol

my door would have closed, if i really wanted to, but i didn't want to try, as i had just bought it, and didn't want to scratch the paint on the door, or the sill... it was rubbing for sure though...

if you take a look at the pics in this thread, you can see it is still open...
https://www.ranger-forums.com/f15/fl...ex+end+flexing

anyways, we are way off topic...

back to the OP, there is obviously a big amount of people who have opinions on both, i'm on the fence... i wouldn't run NO doors, but i would love to have a set of tube doors...
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Actually, most rangers have a half door conversion feature built right in - just like the crankable t bars! The steps are as follows:

1. Jack the truck up at least 6" off the ground front and back, making sure you are level side to side and front to back

2. Grasp the handle on the door panel of the driver's side firmly (but not TOO tight), and rotate clockwise 6 to 7 times, or until it will no longer rotate freely - DO NOT FORCE BEYOND THIS POINT
* In some models this feature is electronic...refer to your chilton manual or consult a certified ford mechanic to activate the half door feature if you have an electronic door reducing module in your vehicle. The switch to activate this feature is located in very close proximity to the door position permanitizing switch, and if you hit the wrong one your doors will no longer open.

3. Repeat this procedure on the passenger's side door

4. Slowly lower the truck
* Jacking the truck up to begin with is actually entirely optional

You now have half doors on your ranger! (in technical terms, your "windows" are now "down")


JK man, there is a pic on here somewhere of someone wheeling with his doors off flexed on a rock and it looks pretty BA and actually very handy if you are going to be crawling around a lot. Pipe doors seem like the way to go, as the doors are somewatt structural. Good luck!
Hahahaa that is hilarious

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the windshield is going to support the entire car? if thats the case, every car/truck would be engineered with this windshield...

i doubt there will be enough stress put on the truck for it to actively be effected by not having doors on it.
Haha you didnt know that the windshield is the strongest part of a car

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that photoshop is exactly what i was thinking about doing, i wouldnt run with absolutely no doors. but my deign woule be more like \_/ at about half door
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YouTube - Custom Ford Ranger's

1:08 or so into the vid, yellow ranger with a pretty sweet looking partial door setup.
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0:38... i know that truck, is that prerunnerranger's truck? 0:51, beard's old truck?

those doors are sweet, but as for the lip on the bottom to keep your feet in... it's got nothing...
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that photoshop is exactly what i was thinking about doing, i wouldnt run with absolutely no doors. but my deign woule be more like \_/ at about half door
You aren't planning to do this to the truck in your profile pic, right? That would look pretty silly.
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i tink so, dis be his kicks
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If/when I get another rig, I will have some tube doors.. atleast something between me and the outside, maybe a hip bar in the cage. I know Jacob said he found his arm/leg(s) goin out the door when he almost rolled it.
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